Hall of Famers We Are Watching in 2020

[Skipscards]

Originally Posted by Silent George

I think there were 106 on my list, which of course does not mean I think nearly that will make it. Just that 106 are somewhat near the pace for their age in terms of WAR. And 3 of those in Yadi, Cano, and Albert are likely no longer active. (though Cano would be if he had his way)

anyway, we'll see if I can do a quick 40 of those I think have the highest % chance, since I think if you look back in 100 years the number will be closer to 50:

Verlander
Cabrera
Greinke
Votto
Scherzer
Longoria
McCutchen
Kershaw
Goldschmidt
DeGrom
Freeman
Altuve
Stanton
Arenado
Cole
Trout
Judge
Betts
Machado
Harper
Jose Ramirez
Bogaerts
Trea Turner
Nola
Lindor
Seager
Correa
Ohtani
Bieber
Devers
Alvarez
Acuna
Soto
Vlad
Julio
Franco
Volpe
Jordan Walker
Chapman
Jansen

I like the list. I used 40 because that's the established historical number. However, you are right. The number is more likely closer to 50+. The Hall of Fame is statistically behind in its inductions relative to the number of teams and players.

[ironfireman]

Originally Posted by Silent George

anyway, we'll see if I can do a quick 40 of those I think have the highest % chance, since I think if you look back in 100 years the number will be closer to 50:

Verlander
Cabrera
Greinke
Votto
Scherzer
Longoria
McCutchen
Kershaw
Goldschmidt
DeGrom
Freeman
Altuve
Stanton
Arenado
Cole
Trout
Judge
Betts
Machado
Harper
Jose Ramirez
Bogaerts
Trea Turner
Nola
Lindor
Seager
Correa
Ohtani
Bieber
Devers
Alvarez
Acuna
Soto
Vlad
Julio
Franco
Volpe
Jordan Walker
Chapman
Jansen

Shocked Longoria & Cutch are on there. Feels like there are way too many better hitters not in the hall and more on the way for those two to ever make it Unless of course they can eck out another good season or two. After that I would be a little suspicious of Yordan. Big guy with hand issues. Vlad Jr. feels like he might eat himself out of his 30s. But Big Papi did OK. Gwynn and Puckett chubbed up to a degree too but both started out way more athletic. Only a low down moran of a cards fan woud include Jordan Walker. I'd add Tatis and Anthony Rizzo because... (Cubs!!!)
I do think this list brings to light that there are probably 10-15+ active guys who will come out of the woodwork at some point. Maybe some of those guys are too young and not peaking yet, maybe some are like Randy Johnson and will be late bloomers who play into their 40s, maybe some former MVPs bounce back like Bellinger, Yelich, KB or some fringe guys like Rizzo hang around to get 400+ HR 2k+ hits and add another ring or two for a huge team like the Yanks.
Fun thing about baseball is there are probably 2-3 guys who are playing right now who are on no ones radar. And someday they'l be weeping in front of all their idols, camera's & fans on their way to immortality.

[Silent George]

Originally Posted by ironfireman

Shocked Longoria & Cutch are on there. Feels like there are way too many better hitters not in the hall and more on the way for those two to ever make it Unless of course they can eck out another good season or two. After that I would be a little suspicious of Yordan. Big guy with hand issues. Vlad Jr. feels like he might eat himself out of his 30s. But Big Papi did OK. Gwynn and Puckett chubbed up to a degree too but both started out way more athletic. Only a low down moran of a cards fan woud include Jordan Walker. I'd add Tatis and Anthony Rizzo because... (Cubs!!!)
I do think this list brings to light that there are probably 10-15+ active guys who will come out of the woodwork at some point. Maybe some of those guys are too young and not peaking yet, maybe some are like Randy Johnson and will be late bloomers who play into their 40s, maybe some former MVPs bounce back like Bellinger, Yelich, KB or some fringe guys like Rizzo hang around to get 400+ HR 2k+ hits and add another ring or two for a huge team like the Yanks.
Fun thing about baseball is there are probably 2-3 guys who are playing right now who are on no ones radar. And someday they'l be weeping in front of all their idols, camera's & fans on their way to immortality.

I wouldn't be shocked if half the list is wrong.

But if I had to pick today...

You have to go with Volpe and Walker because people playing every day at their age have an obvious leg up on the competition. But of course, Justin Upton would have been on my list for years and years. Someone their age is going to make it, probably a few people. If the world ended today, it's them!

On the other side of things, who has a better chance, Volpe? or Cutch? Volpe has to have a hell of a career just to get close to Cutch. Thus, again, when picking 40, who is that 40th person that gets inducted in 2065? Maybe Cutch.

It wasn't really hard to make this list. Not a lot of thought put into it, because there isn't a point to doing it. Just a few years ago, everyone would have had Bellinger, Tatis, Yelich, and others as relatively safe picks.

So I suspect there's going to be some easy picks on this list that disappear just as quickly.

(The 1980s mega stars, the ones everyone thought were destined for immortality, like none of them made it. I think about that all of the time. Take an individual in the 1980s and tell him Gooden, Strawberry, Davis, Canseco, Murphy, Mattingly, Bo Jackson, Will Clark. That's not to mention Bonds, Clemens, McGwire, etc. Those are the guys that sold tickets.)

[ObanMontecristo]

Originally Posted by ironfireman

Fun thing about baseball is there are probably 2-3 guys who are playing right now who are on no ones radar. And someday they'l be weeping in front of all their idols, camera's & fans on their way to immortality.

Adrian Beltre is a good example of this- I’m not a huge fan of his, but for like his first 6-8 years he was pretty average (except for one really big season), but he racked up a ton of solid seasons in his 30’s and ended up hitting some pretty big career numbers, to the point where most people would probably consider him a HOFer when he retired.

[Skipscards]

It’s that time of year again folks! 2024 is upon us and it's time to bump it up and see if anyone wants to update their list from 4 years ago or add a new list.

Note, the order is irrelevant. It's just the order players popped into my head.

First, there are now 7 players from the original list who have since retired. I think 5 of the 7 have a decent shot to make it one day:
3. Albert Pujols - 1st Ballot.
6. Miguel Cabrera – 1st Ballot.
7. Buster Posey - Getting in.
8. Stephen Strasburg - Injuries killed his momentum.
11. Dustin Pedroia - Will take a while.
24. Robinson Cano - Has HOF numbers, but you know. Check back in 50 years.
25. Cole Hamels – He has finally, officially retired. He's borderline but could get in one day.

Next are the players who are still active, but will not make my 2024 list. They could have a comeback year and make their way back, but the last 3 years were unfortunately unkind to these guys:

16. Jacob deGrom – I know. Crazy, right? Injuries have destroyed him. He is running out of daylight. Funny thing is, if you took his career numbers and told someone this was a closer instead of an opener, you’d have a closer that rivals Mariano Rivera. But pitching great in the 1st inning ain’t respected like the 9th.
17. Kris Bryant – I really wanted to keep him in there. I really thought the thin air of Colorado would help his bat rediscover all that power and instead it’s amounted to 15 HRs in 122 games across 2 years. If he comes back with a 40 HR season, I’ll add him back to the list. For now, he’s being relegated to the “What coulda been? pile”.
23. Madison Bumgarner - Arizona was an unmitigated disaster for the World Series Legend but he may not be done. Rumored to be considering a comeback this year.
26. Evan Longoria - Playing half of the last three seasons plus the COVID season have hurt his counting stats and leaving Tampa Bay has been bad. He is still thinking about playing.
28. Andrew McCutchen - Cracked 2,000 hits last year and had a wonderful 2023. One more year like that and he may make his way back onto my list. He has a shot at 300 HRs and 3,500 TBs this year.
36. Mike Soroka – Injuries wrecked him too. But man, this kid could pitch when he was 21.
40. Christian Yelich - In 2020 he was a power hitting MVP candidate. In 2024 he's lost his power but did have a nice season.

2024 List
The hold-overs:
1. Clayton Kershaw
2. Mike Trout
4. Justin Verlander
5. Zack Greinke
9. Max Scherzer
10. Mookie Betts
12. Paul Goldschmidt
13. Joey Votto
14. Manny Machado
15. Bryce Harper
18. Carlos Correa
19. Jose Altuve
20. Alex Bregman
21. Gerrit Cole
22. Salvador Perez
27. Chris Sale
29. Cody Bellinger – Last year I took him off the list and said, “His career totals to this point look a lot like Reggie Jackson's. But he feels more like Chris Davis.” Then he went and had a nice season and guess what? His career totals to this point still look a lot like Reggie. He's back on the list.
30. Corey Seager
31. Giancarlo Stanton
32. Aaron Judge
33. Juan Soto
34. Ronald Acuna Jr
35. Trea Turner
37. Vladimir Guerrero Jr
38. Fernando Tatis Jr
39. Bo Bichette

Last year’s additions:
3. Nolan Arenado
7. Adley Rutschman
8. Aaron Nola
11. Marcus Semien
23. Julio Rodriguez
24. Bobby Witt Jr
25. Kyle Tucker
26. Max Fried
28. Jose Ramirez
36. Corbin Burnes
40. Sandy Alcantara

This year’s additions
6. Shohei Ohtani
16. Zack Wheeler
17. Evan Carter

Last year, I almost took Salvy and Sale off the hold-overs, but I'm an optimist. So, I kept them around another year to see what would happen. Salvy had another All-Star season while Sale struggled to make it back. I am remaining confident in Salvy but Sale better hurry up. Either Atlanta will put him back on track or he will be off the list next year.

Last year I also would have added Zack Wheeler and Michael Harris had I not kept Sale and Salvy. This year, Wheeler makes it and Harris is still just outside of the list even though he duplicated his rookie season. If Greinke had officially retired, Harris or Spencer Strider would probably be on the list and frankly, maybe I should put Strider on the list in place of Sale. I'll worry about that next year.

This year, I also really thought about the reigning ROYs, Gunnar Henderson and Corbin Carroll but I’m just not there and let’s face it, most ROYs don’t go on to the Hall of Fame. Among the 20 winners in the 1990s, only 4 have made it and 1 more will make it. In the 1980s, only Ripken has made it with only 3 more possible (Valenzuela, McGwire, and Gooden).

Ok, show me your update or your list...

[BigSlim16]

I think Andres Gimenez is a name to watch. Already 2 GG and 14.6 bWAR through his age 24 season.

[jhssketchcards]

My god. If Pedroia and Hamels get into the HOF I’m done watching MLB. Pedroia was awesome for a few years, as was Hamels, but HOF they are not.


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[marl1220]

My list on watching, in regards to opening day rosters. This is in no particular order.

Trout
Ohtani
Verlander
Scherzer
G. Cole
Betts
Freeman
Altuve
Machado
Harper
Kershaw
Arenado
Goldschmidt
Perez
Votto???

Possibles but too early to tell.

Judge
Soto
Acuna
C.Burns
Albies

[Skipscards]

Originally Posted by marl1220

My list on watching, in regards to opening day rosters. This is in no particular order.

Trout
Ohtani
Verlander
Scherzer
G. Cole
Betts
Freeman
Altuve
Machado
Harper
Kershaw
Arenado
Goldschmidt
Perez
Votto???

Possibles but too early to tell.

Judge
Soto
Acuna
C.Burns
Albies

Good start, but you need to beef this up. There are at least 40 HOFers playing each season.

[Skipscards]

Originally Posted by jhssketchcards

My god. If Pedroia and Hamels get into the HOF I’m done watching MLB. Pedroia was awesome for a few years, as was Hamels, but HOF they are not.


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Pedroia's and Hamels' numbers are borderline at best and you will likely be done watching the MLB as they may get in 50 years from now. But consider this...Hamels' 2008 Post Season was ridiculous. He put the Phillies on his back and willed them to the Championship. ALCS and WS MVP, 35 IP with 7 runs allowed, 5-0. That's historic. As for Pedroia, 2nd Basemen winning MVPs doesn't happen a lot. Every single one that is eligible is in the Hall of fame except Kent and he's likely getting in eventually.

That being said, I'm not convinced either will make it, I do see the case for each.

[jhssketchcards]

Originally Posted by Skipscards

Pedroia's and Hamels' numbers are borderline at best and you will likely be done watching the MLB as they may get in 50 years from now. But consider this...Hamels' 2008 Post Season was ridiculous. He put the Phillies on his back and willed them to the Championship. ALCS and WS MVP, 35 IP with 7 runs allowed, 5-0. That's historic. As for Pedroia, 2nd Basemen winning MVPs doesn't happen a lot. Every single one that is eligible is in the Hall of fame except Kent and he's likely getting in eventually.

That being said, I'm not convinced either will make it, I do see the case for each.

I agree they were great for very short moments or seasons. Pedroia I can see getting in eventually, but is that what we’ve come to? Short spans of elite play makes a player a HOF? Neither can put 10 years of dominant, elite baseball. Hamels in his entire career led the league in 1 category I believe. I loved Pedroia and his injuries were unfortunate.


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[marl1220]

Originally Posted by Skipscards

Good start, but you need to beef this up. There are at least 40 HOFers playing each season.

I'm a small Hall guy.

But you are right. There probably are numerous border line guys I left off.

[awz50]

Originally Posted by Skipscards

It’s that time of year again folks! 2024 is upon us and it's time to bump it up and see if anyone wants to update their list from 4 years ago or add a new list.

Note, the order is irrelevant. It's just the order players popped into my head.

First, there are now 7 players from the original list who have since retired. I think 5 of the 7 have a decent shot to make it one day:
3. Albert Pujols - 1st Ballot.
6. Miguel Cabrera – 1st Ballot.
7. Buster Posey - Getting in.
8. Stephen Strasburg - Injuries killed his momentum.
11. Dustin Pedroia - Will take a while.
24. Robinson Cano - Has HOF numbers, but you know. Check back in 50 years.
25. Cole Hamels – He has finally, officially retired. He's borderline but could get in one day.

Next are the players who are still active, but will not make my 2024 list. They could have a comeback year and make their way back, but the last 3 years were unfortunately unkind to these guys:

16. Jacob deGrom – I know. Crazy, right? Injuries have destroyed him. He is running out of daylight. Funny thing is, if you took his career numbers and told someone this was a closer instead of an opener, you’d have a closer that rivals Mariano Rivera. But pitching great in the 1st inning ain’t respected like the 9th.
17. Kris Bryant – I really wanted to keep him in there. I really thought the thin air of Colorado would help his bat rediscover all that power and instead it’s amounted to 15 HRs in 122 games across 2 years. If he comes back with a 40 HR season, I’ll add him back to the list. For now, he’s being relegated to the “What coulda been? pile”.
23. Madison Bumgarner - Arizona was an unmitigated disaster for the World Series Legend but he may not be done. Rumored to be considering a comeback this year.
26. Evan Longoria - Playing half of the last three seasons plus the COVID season have hurt his counting stats and leaving Tampa Bay has been bad. He is still thinking about playing.
28. Andrew McCutchen - Cracked 2,000 hits last year and had a wonderful 2023. One more year like that and he may make his way back onto my list. He has a shot at 300 HRs and 3,500 TBs this year.
36. Mike Soroka – Injuries wrecked him too. But man, this kid could pitch when he was 21.
40. Christian Yelich - In 2020 he was a power hitting MVP candidate. In 2024 he's lost his power but did have a nice season.

2024 List
The hold-overs:
1. Clayton Kershaw
2. Mike Trout
4. Justin Verlander
5. Zack Greinke
9. Max Scherzer
10. Mookie Betts
12. Paul Goldschmidt
13. Joey Votto
14. Manny Machado
15. Bryce Harper
18. Carlos Correa
19. Jose Altuve
20. Alex Bregman
21. Gerrit Cole
22. Salvador Perez
27. Chris Sale
29. Cody Bellinger – Last year I took him off the list and said, “His career totals to this point look a lot like Reggie Jackson's. But he feels more like Chris Davis.” Then he went and had a nice season and guess what? His career totals to this point still look a lot like Reggie. He's back on the list.
30. Corey Seager
31. Giancarlo Stanton
32. Aaron Judge
33. Juan Soto
34. Ronald Acuna Jr
35. Trea Turner
37. Vladimir Guerrero Jr
38. Fernando Tatis Jr
39. Bo Bichette

Last year’s additions:
3. Nolan Arenado
7. Adley Rutschman
8. Aaron Nola
11. Marcus Semien
23. Julio Rodriguez
24. Bobby Witt Jr
25. Kyle Tucker
26. Max Fried
28. Jose Ramirez
36. Corbin Burnes
40. Sandy Alcantara

This year’s additions
6. Shohei Ohtani
16. Zack Wheeler
17. Evan Carter

Last year, I almost took Salvy and Sale off the hold-overs, but I'm an optimist. So, I kept them around another year to see what would happen. Salvy had another All-Star season while Sale struggled to make it back. I am remaining confident in Salvy but Sale better hurry up. Either Atlanta will put him back on track or he will be off the list next year.

Last year I also would have added Zack Wheeler and Michael Harris had I not kept Sale and Salvy. This year, Wheeler makes it and Harris is still just outside of the list even though he duplicated his rookie season. If Greinke had officially retired, Harris or Spencer Strider would probably be on the list and frankly, maybe I should put Strider on the list in place of Sale. I'll worry about that next year.

This year, I also really thought about the reigning ROYs, Gunnar Henderson and Corbin Carroll but I’m just not there and let’s face it, most ROYs don’t go on to the Hall of Fame. Among the 20 winners in the 1990s, only 4 have made it and 1 more will make it. In the 1980s, only Ripken has made it with only 3 more possible (Valenzuela, McGwire, and Gooden).

Ok, show me your update or your list...

Ohhh skip I enjoy these readings

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by Skipscards

Pedroia's and Hamels' numbers are borderline at best and you will likely be done watching the MLB as they may get in 50 years from now. But consider this...Hamels' 2008 Post Season was ridiculous. He put the Phillies on his back and willed them to the Championship. ALCS and WS MVP, 35 IP with 7 runs allowed, 5-0. That's historic. As for Pedroia, 2nd Basemen winning MVPs doesn't happen a lot. Every single one that is eligible is in the Hall of fame except Kent and he's likely getting in eventually.

That being said, I'm not convinced either will make it, I do see the case for each.

Pedroia was a legit star in his prime. He over-achieved and got the most out his small frame. He couldn't stay healthy in his 30s probably because his body took such a beating. He's definitely a first ballot entrant in the Hall of Grit.

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by jhssketchcards

I agree they were great for very short moments or seasons. Pedroia I can see getting in eventually, but is that what we’ve come to? Short spans of elite play makes a player a HOF? Neither can put 10 years of dominant, elite baseball. Hamels in his entire career led the league in 1 category I believe. I loved Pedroia and his injuries were unfortunate.


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Pedroia is 16th in WAR7 for 2B -- right in line with Biggio and Altuve. So he at least has the peak part of the equation.

[johnlocke36]

Originally Posted by Skipscards

16. Jacob deGrom – I know. Crazy, right? Injuries have destroyed him. He is running out of daylight. Funny thing is, if you took his career numbers and told someone this was a closer instead of an opener, you’d have a closer that rivals Mariano Rivera. But pitching great in the 1st inning ain’t respected like the 9th.

I agree he has to do more, but I also think he really only needs one healthy seasons (or 1 + 2024 post season) to be a lock. If someone didn't know anything about baseball and said hey what are 3 good statistics to evaluate how good a pitcher is you may say ERA+, WHIP and K/9. There is a very real chance Degrom retries as all time leader in all 3 categories. So if he gets even 1 more full healthy year, I think it will be impossible to keep him out. I'm not 100% but I think he's also first all time in WAR/IP for starters. So yes you get less total innings from him, but those innings are worth more then any pitcher ever when they happen

Example: Koufax 49 WAR in 2300 innings.... DEgrom 45 WAR in 1350 (obv post season differnet)

[BabaORiley]

Originally Posted by johnlocke36

I agree he has to do more, but I also think he really only needs one healthy seasons (or 1 + 2024 post season) to be a lock. If someone didn't know anything about baseball and said hey what are 3 good statistics to evaluate how good a pitcher is you may say ERA+, WHIP and K/9. There is a very real chance Degrom retries as all time leader in all 3 categories. So if he gets even 1 more full healthy year, I think it will be impossible to keep him out. I'm not 100% but I think he's also first all time in WAR/IP for starters. So yes you get less total innings from him, but those innings are worth more then any pitcher ever when they happen

Example: Koufax 49 WAR in 2300 innings.... DEgrom 45 WAR in 1350 (obv post season differnet)

I concur with this assessment from start to finish.

[Zauron]

Pedroia I could maybe see, but Hamels has no shot.

I also will say, deGrom is going to be an interesting case because he's so dominant but man he's been so injured. He really needs like 3 years of no injuries, all his counting stats are incredibly low. 1652 strikeouts, 1300 innings, under 100 wins.

[OhioLawyerF5]

Originally Posted by marl1220

I'm a small Hall guy.

But you are right. There probably are numerous border line guys I left off.

I think the point isn't that you left off borderline guys, but that there are likely 10+ players currently playing who are so young they have nowhere near the stats to be even considered borderline, but will eventually make the hall as their careers progress. A large part of this exercise is to guess who those players are.

[SmokeyJ]

Lindor missing from these lists is hard for me to fathom.

He just turned 30 and had 11.6 bWar over the past two seasons.

If he gets 12 more bWar before the end of his career, he'll be in the Top 20 of bWar for shortstops all-time. Only 3 of those are outside the HOF and one is A-rod.


How is he not on these lists?

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[rats60]

Originally Posted by johnlocke36

I agree he has to do more, but I also think he really only needs one healthy seasons (or 1 + 2024 post season) to be a lock. If someone didn't know anything about baseball and said hey what are 3 good statistics to evaluate how good a pitcher is you may say ERA+, WHIP and K/9. There is a very real chance Degrom retries as all time leader in all 3 categories. So if he gets even 1 more full healthy year, I think it will be impossible to keep him out. I'm not 100% but I think he's also first all time in WAR/IP for starters. So yes you get less total innings from him, but those innings are worth more then any pitcher ever when they Happen Example: Koufax 49 WAR in 2300 innings.... DEgrom 45 WAR in 1350

This is just another reason why war is trash. Black ink Koufax 78 DeGrom 12 Average HOFer 40. DeGrom is well below the cut line for HOF. He needs a lot more than one good year He needs get his innings around 2k with dominant stats. DeGrom has only had 4 seasons with 162 innings needed to qualify to lead the league. The last 4 (counting the COVID season) have been under 100. At age 36, the likelihood that happens is very low. He is just another pitcher with a couple good years who couldn't sustain a HOF career.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by Skipscards

Good start, but you need to beef this up. There are at least 40 HOFers playing each season.

True, but at least a small chunk of those are prospects and 2nd year kids who you would have to take a wild stab at.

[johnlocke36]

Originally Posted by rats60

This is just another reason why war is trash. Black ink Koufax 78 DeGrom 12 Average HOFer 40. DeGrom is well below the cut line for HOF. He needs a lot more than one good year He needs get his innings around 2k with dominant stats. DeGrom has only had 4 seasons with 162 innings needed to qualify to lead the league. The last 4 (counting the COVID season) have been under 100. At age 36, the likelihood that happens is very low. He is just another pitcher with a couple good years who couldn't sustain a HOF career.

Black ink test must better then WAR. Lets count how many times the guy lead the league in Wins and Wining % but ignore the fact that the year he posted a 1.7 era he went 10-9. Then lets also give points for complete games and compare eras where no pitchers complete games vs all of them. And finally lets give same amount of points for leading the league (8 team) vs leading the league (15 teams) in said stats

I think you just underestimate (like most do) how good Degrom has been. He didn't have a couple of good years. His first 1300 innings are the best first 1300 innings in baseball history (this isn't up for debate).

His 4 year stretch was basically unanimous cy young, unanimous cy young, 3rd place cy young in Covid, best 1/2 season performance in history of the sports then he got hurt. I would't write that off as a couple of good years. His couple of good years were his previous 4 seasons where he had 3 top 10 cy young seasons and won ROY (like 4 years removed from being a low level college short stop)

Lastly, the reason I say he only needs 1 healthy season is because if he gets another healthy 32 start season he's most likely gonna win another Cy Young. Then its just a question of whatever counting stats he racks up. But if he finishes with 3 Cy youngs, and all time leader in ERA+, WHIP, and K/9 then yes he will walk into the HOF

[OhioLawyerF5]

LOL at calling WAR trash and using black ink. I'm not even a WAR guy, but that's hilarious.

[johnlocke36]

just to further point out how stupid black ink for pitchers is:

In 3 years he started 31, 32 and 32 games.

Gerrit Cole had 3 years where he started 33 games (Which lead the league). Cole also had 3 seasons with 1 shutout which lead the league. Cole also had 2 seasons with 2 CG which lead the league. All together this is worth 10 points on your black ink test.

So to summarize, Gerrit Cole starting 1 extra game and pitching maybee 3 extra innings per year (could be simple variance like managerial discretion for allowing pitchers to throw 9th) is the fucntional equivalent of leading the lead in ERA 2.5x


On a hunch, I looked up Sandy Alcantrata since he has freakish amounts of CG and 1 really good year and sure enough he has edge on DEgrom 13:12 in black ink,