calculusdork's 2022 Cy Young Predictor - Page 18

calculusdork · 09-14-2022, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Homerun

Feel like that is kind of harsh. He wasn’t great but any means but wasn’t horrible either. Just kind of a meh performance from him.

Yeah, he's not out of contention or anything.

LVDan · 09-14-2022, 04:21 PM

it was one of those oh he gets the Rockies at home? He'll give up a run or less and punch out 11+type thoughts going in

in the NL Rodon won't win but he is going to be a very rich man come wintertime.

BeastMode27 · 09-14-2022, 04:40 PM

He raised his era and whip. He needed to maintain the era and lower his whip in my opinion. Struggled to get through 5. He was not sharp with the slider at all, and the batters were patient.
With the other 2 coming back I felt like he needed a statement start here. With his whip being so much worse, I don’t think he can have less wins and a higher era and win. Leading in K’s isn’t going to do it.

calculusdork · 09-14-2022, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by LVDan

it was one of those oh he gets the Rockies at home? He'll give up a run or less and punch out 11+type thoughts going in

in the NL Rodon won't win but he is going to be a very rich man come wintertime.

He's on a 2-year deal, but it won't surprise me one bit if he gets a big extension. He's basically proven that all those injuries are in the past.

BeastMode27 · 09-14-2022, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by calculusdork

He's on a 2-year deal, but it won't surprise me one bit if he gets a big extension. He's basically proven that all those injuries are in the past.

He has an opt out. Imagine he takes advantage and gets paid like a top 10 pitcher.

caulaflour · 09-14-2022, 05:50 PM

If nothing weird happens between now and the end of the season, Rodon will definitely opt out.

As for Cease, he lost the lead (if he had it) but he's certainly not out of it.

Biohazarddfl · 09-14-2022, 07:07 PM

If Bieber keeps rolling and Cleveland keeps the White Sox out of the playoffs, does Bieber work his way into the conversation? I feel like Manoah and Gausman could take some votes from each other.

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Badgers0821 · 09-14-2022, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Biohazarddfl

If Bieber keeps rolling and Cleveland keeps the White Sox out of the playoffs, does Bieber work his way into the conversation? I feel like Manoah and Gausman could take some votes from each other.

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Doubt it, he’s not in the top 5 of any significant categories. Plus the Guardians winning the Central division is not that impressive. If he was on the Yankees or Astros…maybe

asw37 · 09-14-2022, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Biohazarddfl

If Bieber keeps rolling and Cleveland keeps the White Sox out of the playoffs, does Bieber work his way into the conversation? I feel like Manoah and Gausman could take some votes from each other.

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I think its Verlander/Cease essentially tied....... a decent sized margin Shane mclanahan and Valdez... then another gap ......then Manoah..... but besides pitching a few more innings than Cease, what argument could be made for Manoah to win it over Cease or Verlander? Unless they both end the season with a few 6er games and Manoah cruises, I couldn't imagine it being anyone other than Cease or Verlander.

I would imagine Beiber is out of the race being a point higher than Verlander in ERA.

Is there any real chance that anyone other than cease or verlander can win the AL CY?

Bars and Bar · 09-14-2022, 08:19 PM

I’d imagine Verlander gets 2/3 of the 1st place votes as it sits today

redauto5 · 09-14-2022, 08:36 PM

I know Ohtani still has some work to do to qualify in IP, but if he does do yall think he'll get some down ballot votes at least? It'd be cool if he was at least in the conversation for both MVP and Cy Young consideration as he's never pitched enough and well enough before for that to occur.

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calculusdork · 09-14-2022, 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BeastMode27

He has an opt out. Imagine he takes advantage and gets paid like a top 10 pitcher.

Ah, gotcha.

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Originally Posted by Biohazarddfl

If Bieber keeps rolling and Cleveland keeps the White Sox out of the playoffs, does Bieber work his way into the conversation? I feel like Manoah and Gausman could take some votes from each other.

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Biebs could fi ish top 5 with a strong finish, yes.

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Originally Posted by asw37

I think its Verlander/Cease essentially tied....... a decent sized margin Shane mclanahan and Valdez... then another gap ......then Manoah..... but besides pitching a few more innings than Cease, what argument could be made for Manoah to win it over Cease or Verlander? Unless they both end the season with a few 6er games and Manoah cruises, I couldn't imagine it being anyone other than Cease or Verlander.

I would imagine Beiber is out of the race being a point higher than Verlander in ERA.

Is there any real chance that anyone other than cease or verlander can win the AL CY?

Verlander is clearly ahead now and last I checked should be returning this weekend.

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Originally Posted by Bars and Bar

I’d imagine Verlander gets 2/3 of the 1st place votes as it sits today

Agreed.

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Originally Posted by redauto5

I know Ohtani still has some work to do to qualify in IP, but if he does do yall think he'll get some down ballot votes at least? It'd be cool if he was at least in the conversation for both MVP and Cy Young consideration as he's never pitched enough and well enough before for that to occur.

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Yes, on novelty alone Ohtani will pick up a few top-6 votes.

Doublexthebeast · 09-16-2022, 08:58 AM

Such a fun race this year in both leagues. Glad to see Shane come back strong yesterday although he is likely out of the race. I hope he at least finishes second.

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rman112 · 09-16-2022, 08:46 PM

It's not over in the AL.

But it's close.

Shinypsptitans · 09-16-2022, 08:59 PM

Verlander taken out potential no hitter AGAIN with 79 pitches into the 6th

calculusdork · 09-16-2022, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rman112

It's not over in the AL.

But it's close.

We're at that "it's over barring something surprising" stage

Doublexthebeast · 09-16-2022, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by calculusdork

We're at that "it's over barring something surprising" stage

Oh yeah- it’s Verlander’s to lose and has been for the last 6-8 weeks. I’m just glad that mostly everyone outside of Gonsolin is healthy so we get to see it finished out with all of the top guys hitting the minimum for innings on qualifications.

dodgerfanjohn · 09-17-2022, 11:16 PM

Urias is NOT going quietly…

redauto5 · 09-18-2022, 01:36 AM

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Urias is NOT going quietly…

Nor is Ohtani on the AL side, but it's Verlanders to lose at this point. NL side gets interesting if Sandy continues to falter.

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asw37 · 09-18-2022, 09:20 AM

After today urias will likely have pitched 50 Innings less than sandy…. That’s big!

I think verlander has it pretty much wrapped… but how about mclanahan and cease in addition to ohtani (mentioned above) …. What argument could be made for ohtani over any of those 3 for cy (his hitting does not go into this discussion…. Pitchers win mvp but hitters do not win the cy)

Bars and Bar · 09-18-2022, 03:33 PM

Framber Valdez records his 25th consecutive quality start, a new MLB single-season record.

LVDan · 09-18-2022, 03:36 PM

These races are over I think

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Rabs · 09-18-2022, 03:47 PM

Sandy baby!

Doublexthebeast · 09-18-2022, 03:49 PM

Sandy put a bow on it today. It’s all wrapped up.

dodgerfanjohn · 09-18-2022, 04:33 PM

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Sandy put a bow on it today. It’s all wrapped up.

Yeah I think that’s it.

09-14-2022, 04:21 PM	#427
LVDan Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 17,528	it was one of those oh he gets the Rockies at home? He'll give up a run or less and punch out 11+type thoughts going in in the NL Rodon won't win but he is going to be a very rich man come wintertime. __________________ So we cheated and we lied and we tested. And we never failed to fail; it was the easiest thing to do.

09-14-2022, 05:50 PM	#431
caulaflour Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Ann Arbor, MI Posts: 5,293	If nothing weird happens between now and the end of the season, Rodon will definitely opt out. As for Cease, he lost the lead (if he had it) but he's certainly not out of it. __________________ I only buy and sell (no trading) and I only ship to USA. Thanks.

09-14-2022, 08:19 PM	#435
Bars and Bar Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 10,720	I’d imagine Verlander gets 2/3 of the 1st place votes as it sits today __________________ Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

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asw37 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Posts: 901	After today urias will likely have pitched 50 Innings less than sandy…. That’s big! I think verlander has it pretty much wrapped… but how about mclanahan and cease in addition to ohtani (mentioned above) …. What argument could be made for ohtani over any of those 3 for cy (his hitting does not go into this discussion…. Pitchers win mvp but hitters do not win the cy) __________________ always looking to trade or sell... everything is availible http://s1295.beta.photobucket.com/user/asw37_cards/library/

09-14-2022, 04:40 PM	#428
BeastMode27 Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 2,341	He raised his era and whip. He needed to maintain the era and lower his whip in my opinion. Struggled to get through 5. He was not sharp with the slider at all, and the batters were patient. With the other 2 coming back I felt like he needed a statement start here. With his whip being so much worse, I don’t think he can have less wins and a higher era and win. Leading in K’s isn’t going to do it.

09-14-2022, 07:07 PM	#432
Biohazarddfl Member Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: Fort Lauderdale, FL Posts: 2,294 chrisfl_cards_on_ig ChrisinFlorida	If Bieber keeps rolling and Cleveland keeps the White Sox out of the playoffs, does Bieber work his way into the conversation? I feel like Manoah and Gausman could take some votes from each other. Sent from my SM-S901U using Tapatalk

09-14-2022, 08:36 PM	#436
redauto5 Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Posts: 1,307	I know Ohtani still has some work to do to qualify in IP, but if he does do yall think he'll get some down ballot votes at least? It'd be cool if he was at least in the conversation for both MVP and Cy Young consideration as he's never pitched enough and well enough before for that to occur. Sent from my SM-G991U using Tapatalk

09-16-2022, 08:46 PM	#439
rman112 Banned Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Freedom is Free Again Posts: 40,946	It's not over in the AL. But it's close.

09-16-2022, 08:59 PM	#440
Shinypsptitans Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 3,831	Verlander taken out potential no hitter AGAIN with 79 pitches into the 6th

09-17-2022, 11:16 PM	#443
dodgerfanjohn Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: Torrance, CA Posts: 5,179 sternroolz	Urias is NOT going quietly…

09-18-2022, 03:33 PM	#446
Bars and Bar Member Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 10,720	Framber Valdez records his 25th consecutive quality start, a new MLB single-season record. __________________ Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

09-18-2022, 03:36 PM	#447
LVDan Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 17,528	These races are over I think Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ So we cheated and we lied and we tested. And we never failed to fail; it was the easiest thing to do.

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09-18-2022, 03:49 PM	#449
Doublexthebeast Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: Midland, TX Posts: 8,806	Sandy put a bow on it today. It’s all wrapped up. __________________ Shane McClanahan Super Collector. Always Buying.