The Official 2022 World Cup Discussion Thread - Page 18

jmcca170 · 11-26-2022, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by JMarchand1981

I don't know anything about soccer, but the USA getting a draw versus england must be seen as a victory, no?

Or is that nullified by Iran beating Wales?

Wasn’t the outcome we wanted but it’s the outcome we needed to keep hopes alive. Iran beating wales just means we have to beat Iran. Tie and we’re out

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Gin&Juice · 11-26-2022, 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Ianhatcher

The problem with US Soccer will always be the lack of club level training which won’t improve because of parity in US sports and the plain fact that soccer is not the #1 sport in the US. Other countries let clubs take kids or sign them from other countries (Messi) dump them in training facilities where they play soccer a lot. The rich clubs get all the talent and the country the kids is from benefits from that at the national level.

Why should a MLS team take a kid and spend time and money training them up when they can’t even sign them to their team because they have to draft players?

It’s no coincidence that countries like Spain, France, Germany, England and Italy produce so much talent as that is where the big 5 leagues are and club training facilities are everywhere.

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This is changing in the US. The Union have not drafted a player in years, instead trading their draft picks for allocation money and building through their academy. They are also investing heavily in surrounding urban community to draw talent and recently announced plans to build a state of the art training facility. Exporting players developed through their academy to Europe on an annual basis.

Seeing similar models with Red Bull, Seattle, Dallas, and NYCFC.

US will be among the top 5 in the World within the next decade.

jmcca170 · 11-26-2022, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Gin&Juice

This is changing in the US. The Union have not drafted a player in years, instead trading their draft picks for allocation money and building through their academy. They are also investing heavily in surrounding urban community to draw talent and recently announced plans to build a state of the art training facility. Exporting players developed through their academy to Europe on an annual basis.

Seeing similar models with Red Bull, Seattle, Dallas, and NYCFC.

US will be among the top 5 in the World within the next decade.

Top 5 in the world lol…. Gtfoh

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reddragonthe · 11-26-2022, 10:52 AM

Decade? I'm a homer and a Cubs fan and even I can't pull out that much optimism. If you mean "at some point they hit 5" in the weird FIFA rankings... maybe (I think they've been as high as 4) but consistently? Maybe in 2-3 generations if we can build on the commitment a few clubs have shown.

mfw13 · 11-26-2022, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jmcca170

But please tell me where the vast majority of this country’s “elite” talent comes from.

A lot of it comes from overseas.....Dest, Jedi, Weah, Musah, Reyna....all were either born or grew up overseas and/or the children of immigrants.

JWBlue · 11-26-2022, 11:30 AM

France plays like a team of robots.

IndySportsCards · 11-26-2022, 11:47 AM

Someone tell these Fox Announcers you DO NOT have to talk during the entire game. This is not an American Brain Dead type of Game where you have to keep your audience stimulated with dialogue. You can zip it allow the game to be shown without commentary.

YayNJ · 11-26-2022, 12:43 PM

Not impressed by France tonight. Denmark have their number completely.

Already beaten them twice this year.

YayNJ · 11-26-2022, 12:45 PM

Jinxed it. 2-1

Chrominator · 11-26-2022, 01:02 PM

Will the Arg/Mex match be on Fox broadcast?

If not, anyone have a link to stream it?

JWBlue · 11-26-2022, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Chrominator

Will the Arg/Mex match be on Fox broadcast?

If not, anyone have a link to stream it?

All of them been on here.

https://www.foxsports.com/live

JMarchand1981 · 11-26-2022, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jmcca170

Wasn’t the outcome we wanted but it’s the outcome we needed to keep hopes alive. Iran beating wales just means we have to beat Iran. Tie and we’re out

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Thank you, Brother.

nice quick and easy analysis. Now I know what to root for. Thank you.

Chrominator · 11-26-2022, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by JWBlue

All of them been on here.

https://www.foxsports.com/live

Great Ty

jmcca170 · 11-26-2022, 06:08 PM

Nice mail today

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pregra · 11-27-2022, 08:04 AM

Great win as an Argentina fan yesterday, but man oh man do we look all over the place. A bit better after Messi’s goal, as Mexico had to push some players forward, but we are really struggling in midfield and both fullbacks; never seen De Paul as bad as this in an Argentina shirt. Montiel is like a cone. Hopefully we beat Poland and finish 1st in the group but anything can happen. Also, what a goal by Enzo

kyleuk21 · 11-27-2022, 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by pregra

Great win as an Argentina fan yesterday, but man oh man do we look all over the place. A bit better after Messi’s goal, as Mexico had to push some players forward, but we are really struggling in midfield and both fullbacks; never seen De Paul as bad as this in an Argentina shirt. Montiel is like a cone. Hopefully we beat Poland and finish 1st in the group but anything can happen. Also, what a goal by Enzo

Second half was a totally different team. Acuna should have started game 1. Much better with him in the game in my opinion - he has been solid all year. De Paul has been terrible so far. Right back is a weak link too.

jmcca170 · 11-27-2022, 09:38 AM

What a goal by Morocco. Belgium shaky in this tournament to say the least.

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Giroux · 11-27-2022, 09:46 AM

Costa Rica beat Japan after Japan had just beat Germany.

Any given match day

Giroux · 11-27-2022, 09:53 AM

Nice goal to seal it for Morocco

Boo · 11-27-2022, 10:04 AM

Could be Belgium vs Spain in the round of 16.

psochaps · 11-27-2022, 12:12 PM

Messi to Inter Miami summer 2023!
Ronaldo will be heading this way soon.

chiefs · 11-27-2022, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by psochaps

Ronaldo will be heading this way soon.

I don't know man he has that rape case not sure he wants to tempt fate in the US

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jmcca170 · 11-27-2022, 06:00 PM

He should just go play for Sporting or some other club close to his hometown

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YayNJ · 11-27-2022, 06:25 PM

Jamal Musiala came out on top today among the under 20's

Thought both Pedri and Gavi were fairly pedestrian. Which describes the game pretty well to be honest.

Fati must be wondering what the hell he has to do to get ten minutes, he's a far better player than Nico Williams.

Gin&Juice · 11-27-2022, 07:41 PM

Better than Dani Olmo, too.

Every team needs a Goretzka.

11-26-2022, 11:47 AM	#432
IndySportsCards Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: EO 13848 Posts: 41,981 braco0 IndySportsCards	Someone tell these Fox Announcers you DO NOT have to talk during the entire game. This is not an American Brain Dead type of Game where you have to keep your audience stimulated with dialogue. You can zip it allow the game to be shown without commentary. __________________ Most people would rather be in the majority, than be right.

11-27-2022, 08:04 AM	#440
pregra Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Norway (have ShipMyCards address) Posts: 410 pregra pregra	Great win as an Argentina fan yesterday, but man oh man do we look all over the place. A bit better after Messi’s goal, as Mexico had to push some players forward, but we are really struggling in midfield and both fullbacks; never seen De Paul as bad as this in an Argentina shirt. Montiel is like a cone. Hopefully we beat Poland and finish 1st in the group but anything can happen. Also, what a goal by Enzo __________________ Fútbol: Selección Argentina (in particular 2022 Prizm World Cup, 2024 Prizm Copa América and Gold parallels #'ed to 10) Hockey: T.J. Oshie & Peter Forsberg

11-27-2022, 10:04 AM	#445
Boo Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: PA Posts: 55,907 klay22	Could be Belgium vs Spain in the round of 16. __________________ I have found that flicking through a few threads on my smartphone is a great way to pass some time while "stocking the pond."Hairy 6/7/12 “ I feel you, brother. Welcome to East Berlin, circa 1963.” Hairy 5/9/20

11-27-2022, 06:25 PM	#449
YayNJ Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: London / Oahu Posts: 8,272 hanelcocards	Jamal Musiala came out on top today among the under 20's Thought both Pedri and Gavi were fairly pedestrian. Which describes the game pretty well to be honest. Fati must be wondering what the hell he has to do to get ten minutes, he's a far better player than Nico Williams. Last edited by YayNJ; 11-27-2022 at 06:27 PM.

11-26-2022, 10:52 AM	#429
reddragonthe Member Join Date: May 2016 Posts: 3,359 rddrgnthe	Decade? I'm a homer and a Cubs fan and even I can't pull out that much optimism. If you mean "at some point they hit 5" in the weird FIFA rankings... maybe (I think they've been as high as 4) but consistently? Maybe in 2-3 generations if we can build on the commitment a few clubs have shown.

11-26-2022, 11:30 AM	#431
JWBlue Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 9,545	France plays like a team of robots.

11-26-2022, 12:43 PM	#433
YayNJ Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: London / Oahu Posts: 8,272 hanelcocards	Not impressed by France tonight. Denmark have their number completely. Already beaten them twice this year.

11-26-2022, 12:45 PM	#434
YayNJ Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: London / Oahu Posts: 8,272 hanelcocards	Jinxed it. 2-1

11-26-2022, 01:02 PM	#435
Chrominator Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Earth-616 Posts: 5,040 Chrominator	Will the Arg/Mex match be on Fox broadcast? If not, anyone have a link to stream it?

11-26-2022, 06:08 PM	#439
jmcca170 Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 803	Nice mail today Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

11-27-2022, 09:38 AM	#442
jmcca170 Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 803	What a goal by Morocco. Belgium shaky in this tournament to say the least. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

11-27-2022, 09:46 AM	#443
Giroux Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: USA Posts: 4,891 cardsgoingup	Costa Rica beat Japan after Japan had just beat Germany. Any given match day

11-27-2022, 09:53 AM	#444
Giroux Member Join Date: Feb 2021 Location: USA Posts: 4,891 cardsgoingup	Nice goal to seal it for Morocco

11-27-2022, 12:12 PM	#446
psochaps Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Colorado Posts: 3,360 psochaps psochaps	Messi to Inter Miami summer 2023! Ronaldo will be heading this way soon.

11-27-2022, 06:00 PM	#448
jmcca170 Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Posts: 803	He should just go play for Sporting or some other club close to his hometown Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

11-27-2022, 07:41 PM	#450
Gin&Juice Member Join Date: May 2011 Location: Yardley, PA Posts: 1,162 edelsteind	Better than Dani Olmo, too. Every team needs a Goretzka.