Yordan Alvarez - Page 188

eye4talent · 05-31-2022, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

The words...Superstar & DH don't go together. Never will! Topps didnt even include him in '22 S1. That tells you enough of the story.

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Archangel1775 · 06-01-2022, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

Potential “superstar” but Topps didn’t think to put him in their biggest product of the year? I guess we know how the card monopoly feels.

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I wouldn't call Series 1 the biggest product of the year. Their flagship product and first major release, sure. I would think Topps Chrome will sell a lot better than Series 1 if they equally produced Chrome to Series 1 numbers. There are many years going back to 1952 where outer worldly players weren't included in Series 1. That' doesnt mean Topps doesn't like them. They are likely keeping Gorman, Witt and maybe J-Rod for 2023. Since they aren't in 2022 as RC's, does that make them bad rookies?

Archangel1775 · 06-01-2022, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by BBases31

Lol 2 guys you mentioned weren't DHs, they were 1B. The one actual DH you mentioned has cards worth next to nothing. That's the point

1997 didn't have very many Ortiz rookie cards. A couple Fleer and a Donruss Signature come to mind. Had Topps locked him in Topps Chrome or Finest, it would be a different story. I'm pretty sure is Donruss Sig Century goes for a hefty price.

eye4talent · 06-01-2022, 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Archangel1775

I wouldn't call Series 1 the biggest product of the year. Their flagship product and first major release, sure. I would think Topps Chrome will sell a lot better than Series 1 if they equally produced Chrome to Series 1 numbers. There are many years going back to 1952 where outer worldly players weren't included in Series 1. That' doesnt mean Topps doesn't like them. They are likely keeping Gorman, Witt and maybe J-Rod for 2023. Since they aren't in 2022 as RC's, does that make them bad rookies?

Yeah, the Series 1 vs 2 argument is scraping the bottom of the troll barrel. As you said, there always big veteran names in S2. If anything, Topps hurts itself by not distributing veteran stars more evenly between S1 and S2.

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rwperu34 · 06-01-2022, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by BBases31

This thread was mostly pumping his PSA 10 rookies and other stuff, not the BC Autos

Those cards did not go down because of Yordan's performance or the fact that he is a DH.

rwperu34 · 06-01-2022, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

The words...Superstar & DH don't go together. Never will! Topps didnt even include him in '22 S1. That tells you enough of the story.

David Ortiz says hello.

eye4talent · 06-01-2022, 01:00 AM

If you can carry a base Ultra to $1600, you’ve done something to win over the hearts and minds of baseball fans. Even if you were just a DH.

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Archangel1775 · 06-01-2022, 02:41 AM

^----- Was waiting for that. Aren't there parallels too, gold and platinum? Imagine what those would go for in that grade. For the Astros to truly overcome that hate, Yordan and Tucker have to be a big reason.

Raleigh504 · 06-01-2022, 07:28 AM

Also with the Universal DH, I have a feeling writers will give them more credit. Ortiz pretty much opened the door for these new guys to come in and be able to get in.

Looking at his stats, he had a great career and if any modern day DH gets over 500 HR, 50 WAR and some other career milestones then they SHOULD be getting in. Ortiz never won a regular season MVP, but did get an ALCS & WS MVP. If they are able to win it once during their career, get voted as an All-Star half their career then they could have a better career than Ortiz (that is easier said than done).

The only issue with the Universal DH is now players may try to hang-on (Pujols & Miggy come to mind) and be a DH late in their career to get those milestones.

I can see in their mid-30s and older: Acuna, Soto, Trout, Harper and a few others DH more often to save their bodies to extend their career taking up games where if they have a Yordan (young DH) they will either sit or force them in the field (flashbacks to Franmil Reyes playing the OF).

jhssketchcards · 06-01-2022, 07:42 AM

The last couple of years we’ve seen 3 DH go into the HOF. Baines (oof), Edgar and Ortiz. I think with the universal DH now we will see the DH guys get more attention and consideration for what they do having an impact greater than they have before.

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rngrdanny22 · 06-01-2022, 08:14 AM

My favorite part is when I post something, and then see this following it:

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BBases31 · 06-01-2022, 09:13 AM

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My favorite part is when I post something, and then see this following it:

And you obviously still click to read my posts anyway

BGeezy · 06-01-2022, 09:49 AM

Yordan 2-4 last night. Hopefully he keeps his average up during games when he's not hitting jonróns.

Archangel1775 · 06-01-2022, 09:54 AM

I saw that he has been consistent the last few

DiegsHobby · 06-01-2022, 05:37 PM

Bases-clearing double. Love watching him hit even against my team.

Bambino22 · 06-01-2022, 05:50 PM

That's 1 good tool!

noaskiecards · 06-01-2022, 06:03 PM

Sadly defensive war drives the hobby

Base clearing doubles to make your team win 5-4 have little value

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Archangel1775 · 06-01-2022, 07:59 PM

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Sadly defensive war drives the hobby

Base clearing doubles to make your team win 5-4 have little value

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But the chicks dig the long ball. I do too. Haha

jhssketchcards · 06-01-2022, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by noaskiecards

Sadly defensive war drives the hobby

Base clearing doubles to make your team win 5-4 have little value

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If he were a Yankee people would be pumping his stuff like crazy.

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BGeezy · 06-01-2022, 09:49 PM

Anyone scoop that psa 9 orange sapphire auto? I put up $744, but didn't want to go higher due to the streaky auto... $860 is still a great price though.

Bambino22 · 06-01-2022, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by BGeezy

Anyone scoop that psa 9 orange sapphire auto? I put up $744, but didn't want to go higher due to the streaky auto... $860 is still a great price though.

Not me. But compared to the Chrome orange auto psa 9 for 1455$ couple weeks ago I think that's a good deal. Thought it would break 1k.

BGeezy · 06-01-2022, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Bambino22

Not me. But compared to the Chrome orange auto psa 9 for 1455$ couple weeks ago I think that's a good deal. Thought it would break 1k.

Right, I think the auto probably scared other people off as well. If the Y was intact I would've gone $1200 on it.

rwperu34 · 06-02-2022, 03:05 AM

Yordan Alvarez from June 1, 2021, to May 31, 2022;

.264/.351/.544, 148 wRC+, 4.4 WAR, 40 HR, 106 RBI, 94 R, 1 SB.

BdotHobbs · 06-03-2022, 12:36 PM

6 year 115M extension! Great deal for a great player

noaskiecards · 06-03-2022, 12:55 PM

20 million a year for a DH?
I guess ops still has value in the war obsessed era!

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06-01-2022, 01:00 AM	#4682
eye4talent Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: Monterey, CA Posts: 8,158 eye4talent eye4talent	Yordan Alvarez If you can carry a base Ultra to $1600, you’ve done something to win over the hearts and minds of baseball fans. Even if you were just a DH. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

06-01-2022, 02:41 AM	#4683
Archangel1775 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Cali baby! Posts: 22,187	^----- Was waiting for that. Aren't there parallels too, gold and platinum? Imagine what those would go for in that grade. For the Astros to truly overcome that hate, Yordan and Tucker have to be a big reason. __________________ *There are the intangibles that set someone apart from the pack.So the blur isn't your inability to see his greatness, it's merely the inability to measure it.*

06-01-2022, 07:28 AM	#4684
Raleigh504 Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: NC Posts: 2,724 ig_bljhsports	Also with the Universal DH, I have a feeling writers will give them more credit. Ortiz pretty much opened the door for these new guys to come in and be able to get in. Looking at his stats, he had a great career and if any modern day DH gets over 500 HR, 50 WAR and some other career milestones then they SHOULD be getting in. Ortiz never won a regular season MVP, but did get an ALCS & WS MVP. If they are able to win it once during their career, get voted as an All-Star half their career then they could have a better career than Ortiz (that is easier said than done). The only issue with the Universal DH is now players may try to hang-on (Pujols & Miggy come to mind) and be a DH late in their career to get those milestones. I can see in their mid-30s and older: Acuna, Soto, Trout, Harper and a few others DH more often to save their bodies to extend their career taking up games where if they have a Yordan (young DH) they will either sit or force them in the field (flashbacks to Franmil Reyes playing the OF). __________________ https://myslabs.to/brasm_sports5 https://www.ebay.com/str/jrbuddysportsandmore

06-01-2022, 09:54 AM	#4689
Archangel1775 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Cali baby! Posts: 22,187	I saw that he has been consistent the last few __________________ *There are the intangibles that set someone apart from the pack.So the blur isn't your inability to see his greatness, it's merely the inability to measure it.*

06-01-2022, 05:37 PM	#4690
DiegsHobby Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: Bay Area Posts: 492 deegshobby	Bases-clearing double. Love watching him hit even against my team. __________________ "DEEG'S HOBBY" on every social but I can't change my username here 'Clector of Green & Gold Oakland A's Topps Chrome/Triple Threads/Bowman 1st Autos

06-01-2022, 07:42 AM	#4685
jhssketchcards Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Louisiana Posts: 11,514 jhssketchcards2012	The last couple of years we’ve seen 3 DH go into the HOF. Baines (oof), Edgar and Ortiz. I think with the universal DH now we will see the DH guys get more attention and consideration for what they do having an impact greater than they have before. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

06-01-2022, 09:49 AM	#4688
BGeezy Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 1,649	Yordan 2-4 last night. Hopefully he keeps his average up during games when he's not hitting jonróns.

06-01-2022, 05:50 PM	#4691
Bambino22 Member Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: NoVA Posts: 2,673	That's 1 good tool! __________________ I collect Juan Soto, Yordan Alvarez, and Marco Luciano. Looking for Yordan Alvarez /5 2020 Sterling Auto.

06-01-2022, 06:03 PM	#4692
noaskiecards Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 1,145	Sadly defensive war drives the hobby Base clearing doubles to make your team win 5-4 have little value Sent from my SM-G970U1 using Tapatalk

06-01-2022, 09:49 PM	#4695
BGeezy Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 1,649	Anyone scoop that psa 9 orange sapphire auto? I put up $744, but didn't want to go higher due to the streaky auto... $860 is still a great price though.

06-02-2022, 03:05 AM	#4698
rwperu34 Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 8,726	Yordan Alvarez from June 1, 2021, to May 31, 2022; .264/.351/.544, 148 wRC+, 4.4 WAR, 40 HR, 106 RBI, 94 R, 1 SB. __________________ Me: Did I win? Gixen: Yes. You won. Now you're broke.

06-03-2022, 12:36 PM	#4699
BdotHobbs Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Texas Posts: 704 BHobbs3205	6 year 115M extension! Great deal for a great player

06-03-2022, 12:55 PM	#4700
noaskiecards Member Join Date: May 2020 Posts: 1,145	20 million a year for a DH? I guess ops still has value in the war obsessed era! Sent from my SM-G970U1 using Tapatalk