2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[mike1498]

Originally Posted by Onions

I'm not saying labor cost is not an issue. It certainly is, but they were always able to make stuff cheaper there. Why did we all of a sudden decide to wipe out 60k factories and millions of jobs? What allowed them a market to undercut? A willing partner in Wal-Mart to sell all their cheap goods to us?

We let them steal our lunch money.

My guess is a more efficient supply chains and less barriers to enter than before. While I'll admit I don't know the history of why manufacturing wasn't always in China, if I had to guess without researching it, that would be my guess. I'm sure there has to be an answer but my guess is that wouldn't help your case.

[coachnip13]

Originally Posted by Alvarez09

You’re missing the point.

Ironic post of the day.

[jdandns]

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...cretary-quotes

From the article:
And taking her cue from the president, McEnany played down the threat of the coronavirus. On Trish Regan’s Fox Business Network show in late February, she praised Trump’s partial Chinese travel ban and asserted: “We will not see diseases like the coronavirus come here. And isn’t it refreshing when contrasting it with the awful presidency of President Obama?”

You don't say?

[cnewby]

Originally Posted by Jgil316

McEnany tests positive - and Christy is in the hospital.

This thing has spread far and wide

She deserves a break from the wackos she has to deal with.

[Boo]

Originally Posted by jdandns

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...cretary-quotes

From the article:
And taking her cue from the president, McEnany played down the threat of the coronavirus. On Trish Regan’s Fox Business Network show in late February, she praised Trump’s partial Chinese travel ban and asserted: “We will not see diseases like the coronavirus come here. And isn’t it refreshing when contrasting it with the awful presidency of President Obama?”

Like everyone else, including Dr Fakeci and Biden.

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by Alvarez09

You’re missing the point. We have devalued so many jobs that there are fewer and fewer jobs available that you can do this on. 50 years ago if I worked in a warehouse I could provide for a family. You could work as a bank teller or at sears. You could be a milkman. Now all those jobs MAY provide for yourself but not a spouse let alone a family.

I missed no points.

If you think that unskilled labor should support a family like it did in the 60s, I'd say your out of touch.

First off, it kinda does. You can get a job in a warehouse that will pay for a two bedroom without air conditioning, a black and white tv with no cable, and a 1965 dodge dart. You seriously can do that today, same as then. Just like then, you won't have a cell phone or internet.

The world has moved on. Cell phones cost more than rotary phones. 75 inch TVs with netflix cost more than 24 inch black and whites with rabbit ears. And jobs today require more skill than they used to.

In the 1880s, you didn't need an education at all. But we don't live in the 1880s, so that's irrelevant.

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[Clark]

Originally Posted by mike1498

Okay, if it's not labor costs, then why can't we start making stuff in the US now? Why is it every time I watch shark tank, the first question, "Is this being made oversees?". Investors/companies want the lowest input costs. You want to make quality goods in america, charge a premium. Some are successful. The lowest income will not benefit from manufacturing in china. Wages are considered "sticky" which means they will adjust in the long run. Maybe over time they would be fine, but in the short term, they would be killed by inflation.

For some products, you can start making it in the USA, and make a profit. Unfortunately, corporations care more about squeezing out the most profit than America.

[Alvarez09]

Originally Posted by coachnip13

You have a distorted view of living if you think you can barely survive by working as a bank teller. You actually believe that "surviving" includes vacations and massages.

Quote me on that please.

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by Boo

Again, who told them to have 3 kids?

Originally Posted by JustRachel

Then don't have 3 kids. Or don't be a mailman. Duh.

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Cracks me up. I'm not sure where this idea came from that simply being born in America came with an entitlement voucher to own a home and raise a family just because you spend 40 hours a week working somewhere, doing something. Seriously... who came up with that?

[Clark]

This doc is a few years old, but is still relevant.

If you haven't seen it, I will embed it here.

[coachnip13]

Originally Posted by Alvarez09

Quote me on that please.

You're clueless. You've been misquoting people this entire time.

[ucLAkers]

Originally Posted by Boo

Like everyone else, including Dr Fakeci and Biden.

What the....? FoxNews has burned your corneas since you are obviously blind to reality. Typical fake news if I have ever seen right here.

Best post ever!

[coachnip13]

Originally Posted by Alvarez09

Quote me on that please.

When you can quote anyone on this: "Hey all, just pull yourself up by your bootstraps! If you are living paycheck to paycheck you are a lazy piece of dirt!"

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by irv

Food for thought, but I assume you already knew this?

Excellent list.

A personal favorite phrase of mine: there's no such thing as a free lunch.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by cnewby

She deserves a break from the wackos she has to deal with.

But she's just had one.
Boss Trump has been in the hospital for a couple of days already.

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk

Excellent list.



A personal favorite phrase of mine: there's no such thing as a free lunch.

Alvarez09 2020. Free lunches for everyone!!!

I wonder who's going to pay for them.

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[cnewby]

Originally Posted by ucLAkers

What the....? FoxNews has burned your corneas since you are obviously blind to reality. Typical fake news if I have ever seen right here.

Best post ever!

insightful rebuttal.

[Astros19]

Originally Posted by Alvarez09

I thought the American dream was owning your own house?

As far as living alone, I saw an article that 50% of millennials are in fact moving home because they can’t feasibly live on their own...though of course that is another insult the right throws around about my generation...”stop living in your parents basement”

Because apparently they're not smart enough to find a roommate or two and live within their means.
It seems like the only one missing the points is you.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by Boo

Again, who told them to have 3 kids?

Pro-choice, eh?

Good for you.

[coachnip13]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Pro-choice, eh?

Good for you.

Who said they don't have the right to have three kids? Just don't have three kids and then whine about how hard it is to support them.

This isn't calculus.

[Alvarez09]

I think we all have a different American vision. I and many on the left want people to have a fair shake and a chance at improving my situation without having to work two jobs and 60+ hours a week.


The right wants to make sure the rich accumulate more and more money at the expense of everyone else.

[coachnip13]

Originally Posted by Alvarez09

I think we all have a different American vision. I and many on the left want people to have a fair shake and a chance at improving my situation without having to work two jobs and 60+ hours a week.


The right wants to make sure the rich accumulate more and more money at the expense of everyone else.

Naturally, you're talking about two different things while comparing them as if they are one and the same.

What is wrong with working two jobs to improve your situation?

[Alvarez09]

Originally Posted by ballhawkdawk

Excellent list.

A personal favorite phrase of mine: there's no such thing as a free lunch.

Unless you are rich or a corporation. In that case you can find to loopholes, get bailouts, etc.

[coachnip13]

Alvarez09 isn't pissed that he has had it bad. He's pissed that others have had it good. That's the entire rub.

[Alvarez09]

Originally Posted by jdandns

Pro-choice, eh?

Good for you.

Lol, no way. They worry so much about unborn babies but care one bit once they are born.

Which is a valid point. They blame the parents for being irresponsible but what control does a child born into a poor household have over that and why by extension punish them...all that does is perpetuate the cycle.