WWE Discussion thread- Raw/SD/PPV

[TXRunner]

Originally Posted by whitmm

Yup. Most over guy in the company right now. He's deserves all of it.

That pop on Raw when he wins the belt is going to be massive. And the complaints here will be such a fun read.

How do you not like Jey? His ring skills are not definitely the best. But his ability to capture the crowd with a saying and hand gesture reminds me of someone else who captured the crowd in a similar way back in 2013. Also, IMO, that was true honest emotion last night. The ability to not put sentences together and shedding tears, I appreciate moments like that. He has the crowd in his hands right now and hope he wins at WM.

[marl1220]

Originally Posted by whitmm

Yeah, how dare Cody possibly take a little bit of time off. It's not like he wrestled the most matches, in the company in 2024. 13 more than Jey in second for the guys, 25 more than Priest, and 67 more than Owens. It's not like Cody does all of the press junkets and all of the house shows. 214 total matches in the last two years (110 for Owens)

When you're the champion and carried the company for the last year, yeah, you can run a limited schedule for a couple months.

[Jericho]

So assuming Jey wins the title from Gunther at Mania. What feuds can he have as champion that would even remotely seem winnable for Jey? Sami Zayn? Dominic Mysterio? Because most other guys would be tough to sell as losing to Jey Uso

[bjho852]

I actually predict that both Gunther and Cody will retain at 'Mania this year, no matter who they face. Might be one of the few times (if not the only time) that both top champions retain at 'Mania. Jey winning Rumble is nice, but I prefer seeing him chase just a little more while first.

[TXRunner]

Originally Posted by Jericho

So assuming Jey wins the title from Gunther at Mania. What feuds can he have as champion that would even remotely seem winnable for Jey? Sami Zayn? Dominic Mysterio? Because most other guys would be tough to sell as losing to Jey Uso

Bron, AJ, Finn, KO, LA Knight, Solo. I could even see him go on a nice feud with McIntyre. I do agree that it probably won't be a long run if he wins. At some point he will have to run into Rollins, Punk, Orton, etc.

[AwesomeBrian]

Yes I get the fans love Jey, but to me he's boring in the ring. Punch, slap, superkick (which has been completely devalued as a power move), spear, splash.

Let me ask the group this, is there a memorable Jey Uso singles match? Memorable for being good, not the snoozer he and Jimmy had at WM.

[Cracktoast]

I think 90% of the people who cheer and do the yeet dance and all that good stuff do so because they've seen that some online influence told them that they're supposed to and so they just go along with the crowd like the bunch of sheep they are.

[whitmm]

Originally Posted by Cracktoast

I think 90% of the people who cheer and do the yeet dance and all that good stuff do so because they've seen that some online influence told them that they're supposed to and so they just go along with the crowd like the bunch of sheep they are.

WHAT?

[packman80]

Will Jey Uso be Kofimania all over again? Fans get hot they push him into main event at WM were he wins the title then a couple months later he drops the title?

[whitmm]

Originally Posted by packman80

Will Jey Uso be Kofimania all over again? Fans get hot they push him into main event at WM were he wins the title then a couple months later he drops the title?

Who cares? Not every champion needs to be champ for months and months and months. He absolutely deserves to have at least one title reign. He's levels above some other champions they've had.

And Kofi had the title for 180 days. That's a good run.

I get you guys don't like Jey, but let's quit acting like he's Giovanni Vinci, or Akram, or Karl Anderson, or some jobber they brought in from the local regional company.

[thenightman]

Last night has me completely convinced we're gonna get Rock vs. Roman and Rhodes vs. Punk as our WM Main Events.

[Patsfan]

Originally Posted by thenightman

Last night has me completely convinced we're gonna get Rock vs. Roman and Rhodes vs. Punk as our WM Main Events.

I missed a lot of Raw last night, did something happen with The Rock to completely convince you? Serious question

[thenightman]

Originally Posted by Patsfan

I missed a lot of Raw last night, did something happen with The Rock to completely convince you? Serious question

No.

They announced Roman Reigns is out for the foreseeable future. If they were going to build him vs. Cody, they would have started it by now, not written him off for the "foreseeable future". Also, I don't buy anything into him facing Seth Rollins in a "grudge" match at WM. He's the biggest star in the company and the match he's in at WM won't be a throw away match.

So, who would face Cody? The only other wrestlers big enough to face Cody in the ME at WM is Punk and Cena; and EVERYTHING being said and done with Cena is showing a man who won't earn his chance based on a single match. He'll earn it the old fashioned way. That leaves CM Punk. The man who created the blueprint for a revolution against the man who followed the blueprint.

[thenightman]

Also, if I had to speculate, we'll also get...

Jacob Fatu vs. Solo Sikoa

and

Logan Paul vs. John Cena

[JustinVerlander07]

Originally Posted by packman80

Will Jey Uso be Kofimania all over again? Fans get hot they push him into main event at WM were he wins the title then a couple months later he drops the title?

Kofi got hot for a couple of months. Jey has been on fire for over a year. I don't think his reign will go past Summerslam, but doesn't matter to me.

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Cute guys like cracktoast and Jericho are so delusional in their takes on Jey. Like I said before, there has to be a point where you can say "I personally don't like this guy, but I acknowledge just how over he is", if you can't do that you're living in fantasy land.

You're guys' tears are going to be so sweet come Wrestlemania.

[Cracktoast]

lol no tears here I openly said Jey was likely winning at WM. And I don't hate him I just think his popularity has more to do with people following the crowd than actual momentum. Have you watched any of his matches lately? It's all hype and dance before and after ( when he wins) but little during the match. The really over guys get chants during the match like (Let's Go Cena...Cena Sucks) or ( FU Solo) etc.

[JustinVerlander07]

Originally Posted by Cracktoast

lol no tears here I openly said Jey was likely winning at WM. And I don't hate him I just think his popularity has more to do with people following the crowd than actual momentum. Have you watched any of his matches lately? It's all hype and dance before and after ( when he wins) but little during the match. The really over guys get chants during the match like (Let's Go Cena...Cena Sucks) or ( FU Solo) etc.

Do you watch the matches on mute or ignore the yeet chants to everything?

I've said it too many times now. Why do a 5 star tokyo flippy match when the crowd goes nuts for punches and kicks? Stone Cold after his first neck injury made a living on that. He didn't have to do anything else.

[whitmm]

Originally Posted by Cracktoast

lol no tears here I openly said Jey was likely winning at WM. And I don't hate him I just think his popularity has more to do with people following the crowd than actual momentum. Have you watched any of his matches lately? It's all hype and dance before and after ( when he wins) but little during the match. The really over guys get chants during the match like (Let's Go Cena...Cena Sucks) or ( FU Solo) etc.

Yes, I have watched his matches. And he gets plenty of reaction during matches.

Jey is the most over guy in the company. Much more than Solo was. To think that in order to be over means you need to get chants during matches is ridiculous.

Do we need a reminder of what Hulk Hogan was? A catchy song, a couple hand gestures, and a bunch of no-selling. And they strapped a belt on him for 4 years.

They let Sheamus have multiple reigns. The Miz got to have one. They gave Alberto Del Rio multiple reigns. They let Jinder Mahal hold the belt for 6 months. Bobby Lashey, who everyone apparently hates, got a couple runs. So yeah, let's cut the crap about Jey possibly getting the belt.

[bjho852]

^^ Miz got 2.

[Jericho]

Originally Posted by thenightman

Also, if I had to speculate, we'll also get...

Jacob Fatu vs. Solo Sikoa

and

Logan Paul vs. John Cena

Agree with the Fatu/Solo. I could see Logan vs AJ or Logan vs Cena. I personally would do Cena vs Drew and put Drew over.

[Jericho]

Originally Posted by whitmm

They let Sheamus have multiple reigns. The Miz got to have one. They gave Alberto Del Rio multiple reigns. They let Jinder Mahal hold the belt for 6 months. Bobby Lashey, who everyone apparently hates, got a couple runs. So yeah, let's cut the crap about Jey possibly getting the belt.

Everyone hated Lashley?! Why? The man was legit and should have had more and longer reigns than he had. I stand by the fact that Bobby was worlds better than Brock who only did suplex after suplex...

[whitmm]

Originally Posted by Jericho

Everyone hated Lashley?! Why? The man was legit and should have had more and longer reigns than he had. I stand by the fact that Bobby was worlds better than Brock who only did suplex after suplex...

I got ripped apart in here for defending Lashley.

[cdub6238]

Originally Posted by Jericho

Agree with the Fatu/Solo. I could see Logan vs AJ or Logan vs Cena. I personally would do Cena vs Drew and put Drew over.

You would waste Cena's last WM on Drew...to "put him over"?

Talk about wild takes

[AwesomeBrian]

I have a feeling there will be a triple threat involving something like Punk/Seth/Roman. Basically 3 of the 5 guys who don't win EC

[JustinVerlander07]

Originally Posted by AwesomeBrian

I have a feeling there will be a triple threat involving something like Punk/Seth/Roman. Basically 3 of the 5 guys who don't win EC

That seems to be the way they're headed, but I really don't feel excited about it. 1 on 1 between any 2 of the 3 I'd feel invested in, but a triple threat with no stakes? Kinda lukewarm at the moment.