2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP - Page 1892

discostu · 10-05-2020, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by coachnip13

When was McEnany's quote?

February 25th I believe. A few thousand people had already died globally and Italy would be locked down a week later.

Meanwhile, the CDC reported the first Covid-19 case in the United States a month earlier, in January.

When McEnany made the quote (and you can argue that it was set more as a jab to Obama rather than providing actual information), the global concern was already high. Very high.

coachnip13 · 10-05-2020, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by discostu

February 25th I believe. A few thousand people had already died globally and Italy would be locked down a week later.

Meanwhile, the CDC reported the first Covid-19 case in the United States a month earlier, in January.

When McEnany made the quote (and you can argue that it was set more as a jab to Obama rather than providing actual information), the global concern was already high. Very high.

On March 9th, the Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases since 1984 said it was okay to go on cruise ships.

Jgil316 · 10-05-2020, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by coachnip13

Oh, I read it alright, that's why the response was so easy. First, you guys threw the quote in her face, then backtracked and claimed that the timing and context didn't matter. You pulled an Alvarez09.

We're just glad that the Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases since 1984 changed course once it hit the U.S. Thanks for nothing!

Exactly what are you trying to say here?

The press secretary was parroting the words of Trump (I hope we can all agree on that)
Fauci made statements, early on - that with NO context, now - sound stupid.
Since the administration needed a scape goat - they discredited Fauci based on the initial quotes with no context.

The administration discredited science and down-played the virus at every turn and sadly, it has bit them in the ass.
This outbreak in the White House exposes every single failure of this administration.

Chris Lyle · 10-05-2020, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by discostu

February 25th I believe. A few thousand people had already died globally and Italy would be locked down a week later.

Meanwhile, the CDC reported the first Covid-19 case in the United States a month earlier, in January.

When McEnany made the quote (and you can argue that it was set more as a jab to Obama rather than providing actual information), the global concern was already high. Very high.

During a February 29 broadcast on NBC's "Today Show," Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said that at that time the government was still not advising people to change their daily habits to avoid the coronavirus pandemic

So Fauci was just as wrong correct?

Brobocop · 10-05-2020, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

During a February 29 broadcast on NBC's "Today Show," Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said that at that time the government was still not advising people to change their daily habits to avoid the coronavirus pandemic

So Fauci was just as wrong correct?

Yes, I think we were all let down by the leaders of the country. It's just that when the science caught up with us, some people decided to change their attitudes and actions while others did not. That's where my hang up is. The fact that the White House is basically a petri dish of COVID should be getting tons of press for how irresponsible the occupants have been during the past six or so months.

coachnip13 · 10-05-2020, 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jgil316

Exactly what are you trying to say here?

The press secretary was parroting the words of Trump (I hope we can all agree on that)
Fauci made statements, early on - that with NO context, now - sound stupid.
Since the administration needed a scape goat - they discredited Fauci based on the initial quotes with no context.

The administration discredited science and down-played the virus at every turn and sadly, it has bit them in the ass.
This outbreak in the White House exposes every single failure of this administration.

No context?

He came out and explicitly said that movie theaters and gyms were okay to go to on February 29th. He said on March 9th that it's okay to go on cruise ships. How are either of those taken out of context?

COVID was already in the U.S. at that time. If science is such a champion, how did the Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases since 1984 make those statements?

coachnip13 · 10-05-2020, 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Brobocop

Yes, I think we were all let down by the leaders of the country. It's just that when the science caught up with us, some people decided to change their attitudes and actions while others did not. That's where my hang up is. The fact that the White House is basically a petri dish of COVID should be getting tons of press for how irresponsible the occupants have been during the past six or so months.

But isn't the whole narrative that TRUMP KNEW AND DIDN'T TELL US? Even though we have quotes from the Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases since 1984 into March telling us that there is nothing to see here?

trixstar · 10-05-2020, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Boo

Luckily local school districts have pretty much told him to shove it. My district had two tickets for parents of football, band and cheerleaders plus 150 kids (they did limit that) in the stands over the weekend (so over 400 plus the teams). All other sports they aren't even counting people.

I don’t think Luckily would be the term I’d use

NeedChapmans · 10-05-2020, 01:42 PM

When he's right, he's right.

Boo · 10-05-2020, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by trixstar

I don’t think Luckily would be the term I’d use

We aren't bunkered in our basements on this side of the country.

gopherfan · 10-05-2020, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Alvarez09

This goes to my point that I wish people would just simply say what they meant. Dog whistle racism at its finest. Also, where do you continually come up with this 50% in taxes number? Our top tax bracket isn't even near that level now, and unless you are making a million plus a year, which i doubt, you wouldn't pay that under any plan ever in the US.

Nobody mentioned race here except you. Maybe you need to look in the mirror and decide who is actually the racist.

Jgil316 · 10-05-2020, 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

During a February 29 broadcast on NBC's "Today Show," Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said that at that time the government was still not advising people to change their daily habits to avoid the coronavirus pandemic

So Fauci was just as wrong correct?

You got his quote right, but left out some other words he said:

Fauci said - Right now, at this moment - don't change, But it could change and to watch out.

https://www.today.com/video/dr-fauci...et-79684677616

discostu · 10-05-2020, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by discostu

February 25th I believe. A few thousand people had already died globally and Italy would be locked down a week later.

Meanwhile, the CDC reported the first Covid-19 case in the United States a month earlier, in January.

When McEnany made the quote (and you can argue that it was set more as a jab to Obama rather than providing actual information), the global concern was already high. Very high.

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Originally Posted by coachnip13

On March 9th, the Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases since 1984 said it was okay to go on cruise ships.

I don't disagree.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

During a February 29 broadcast on NBC's "Today Show," Dr. Anthony Fauci, director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, said that at that time the government was still not advising people to change their daily habits to avoid the coronavirus pandemic

So Fauci was just as wrong correct?

Wrong about what? Wrong based on information at the time? Perhaps Dr. Fauci somewhere in the timeline said something to the effect of "we will not see diseases like the coronavirus come here," I just don't know off hand. That's the McEnany quote we're talking about right?

Now, for the record, what McEnany says is pretty meaningless to me. I didn't care what she said in February and I don't care for what she says today.

The dredged up quote is a silly inane verbal bow to wrap up a jab at Obama that hasn't aged well.

Jgil316 · 10-05-2020, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

When he's right, he's right.

Irresponsible - but that is this Administration mantra

coachnip13 · 10-05-2020, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Jgil316

You got his quote right, but left out some other words he said:

Fauci said - Right now, at this moment - don't change, But it could change and to watch out.

https://www.today.com/video/dr-fauci...et-79684677616

Oh, how scientific of him. Go ahead and go on that cruise (March 9th), but "watch out" in case things change.

How many degrees are required to be able to say that as the Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases since 1984?

Alvarez09 · 10-05-2020, 01:47 PM

It’s almost like our understanding of a virus that was only discovered a month previous was evolving! Imagine that.

Jesus. Fauci adjusted his stance quickly. Meanwhile Trump turner wearing masks into a political issue.

cnewby · 10-05-2020, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

When he's right, he's right.

...and dims rage on everywhere.

Alvarez09 · 10-05-2020, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by coachnip13

Oh, how scientific of him. Go ahead and go on that cruise (March 9th), but "watch out" in case things change.

How many degrees are required to be able to say that as the Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases since 1984?

Another trait of a republican....they think they know more than scientists.

coachnip13 · 10-05-2020, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Alvarez09

It’s almost like our understanding of a virus that was only discovered a month previous was evolving! Imagine that.

Jesus. Fauci adjusted his stance quickly. Meanwhile Trump turner wearing masks into a political issue.

That's always the out for "science". Fauci has been all over the place on this thing, but that's okay because the information was "evolving". Nevermind that his job is Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases.

discostu · 10-05-2020, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

When he's right, he's right.

All of this actually made me laugh.

So, thank you for that.

Brobocop · 10-05-2020, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by coachnip13

But isn't the whole narrative that TRUMP KNEW AND DIDN'T TELL US? Even though we have quotes from the Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases since 1984 into March telling us that there is nothing to see here?

No, that's not the narrative. The narrative is that he never changed his attitudes towards the disease as it progressed and as the science around it evolved. The Bob Woodward story came and went because it wasn't a shock to anyone. Again, the petri dish that is now the White House shows how irresponsible he and those around him are. I saw a photo graphic of all the high level GOP party members that have COVID in the past week or so. Where's the graphic of Democrat leaders? Oh wait, there isn't one right now because that party seems to be taking it serious. Trump's comment about Biden wearing masks everywhere he goes again shows how irresponsible he is. Mocking anyone for wearing a mask in this day and age is stupid and childish.

coachnip13 · 10-05-2020, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Alvarez09

Another trait of a republican....they think they know more than scientists.

On March 9th, Fauci said it was okay to go on cruise ships.

On March 13th, my superintendent shut our school down.

Who won that round?

NeedChapmans · 10-05-2020, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jgil316

Irresponsible - but that is this Administration mantra

If a 74 year old, overweight man w/ a fast food diet can be in and out of COVID in three days, you can to!

Start printing the T-shirts. Much to do about nothing.

coachnip13 · 10-05-2020, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Brobocop

No, that's not the narrative.

Well, maybe not today, because you guys are Faucists in the way things "evolve". But all along it has been "he knew and didn't tell us".

coachnip13 · 10-05-2020, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Alvarez09

Another trait of a republican....they think they know more than scientists.

Can you quote any Republican here who said they know more than scientists?

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