The Erling Haaland Thread

[IndySportsCards]

I've been buying and selling Topps Now cards for well over a year now. I'm a fan of them, AND I'm a fan of the sales they make.

As a Seller: Pack Pulled, Print on Demand. Doesn't matter if it's the right player(s)....

As a Collector: I'm partial to cards pack pulled myself.

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by brewtown107

Well, I went from receptive and mildly interested--as a purchaser of Topps Now from another sport in the past--to a hard no, and hoping that folks avoid Topps Now going forward. That's not nothing. And I doubt I'm alone in my thinking.

Print runs keep rising. For every one like you, there are probably two new opposites.

NOW isn't for everybody. Sapphire isn't for everybody. Vintage isn't for everybody. Topps/Panini/UD isn't for everybody. For some that like making easy money in a product that others like to talk negatively about for one reason or another, Topps NOW might be perfect for them.

Originally Posted by brewtown107

And let's not pretend you're here to benevolently turn collectors on to something of value to them. All this pumping and flexing is clearly all about you.

Wrong. Absolutely, unequivocally wrong.

We have a large group of people in this forum. I challenge anyone in here to find one sale i have made of significance of any of these NOW cards that I have. Look anywhere you like. Check eBay, FB, my own website, and any other selling platform known to man. See if I have sold ANY NOW card of any significance for any significant amount.

You see..you won't find one. Not...a...single...one. If I was here to "pump and dump", like only a handful of you claim, I'd have to have some sales, wouldn't I? If it was "all about me", like you claim, wouldn't I be taking advantage of the run up in this market?

Or...is it possible, even in the slightest sense, that I'm trying to show others the opportunities the NOW brand offers?

Originally Posted by brewtown107

Congrats on the #11 hoard. That one's clearly going to work out for you. But it's most likely an aberration.

Thank you.

As secondary NOW prices keep climbing, on many, many different cards from different sports, it would be hard to argue Haaland #11 is an aberration. People are consistently doubling their money, (and so much more), with current NOW offerings. But I understand doubling money in a matter of a few weeks to a few months isn't worth some peoples' time. Nothing wrong with that.

Originally Posted by brewtown107

People are wisely skeptical of buying into print-to-order cards, because the very moment they actually become popular, they become massively overproduced and people get burned badly. Kind of like what happened with the Topps Project 2020 cards. Early adopters (like you) come out ahead in such a scenario, but the latecomers get stuck holding the bag.

As with any product, you have to be smart about what you're buying and how much you're buying, if you're wanting to make money. Some people are still making money every week on Project 2020. Greed is what caused many to lose money, and unfortunately, the greed from some caused others to lose money as well.

Originally Posted by brewtown107

So your performance here paints you as a huckster who is eager to pump and dump what will ultimately become garbage product on soccer collectors.

If that's the look you're going for, then keep at it. If that's not the look you're going for, then you need to dial it back a few notches.

Proceed how you will.

As if I need your permission.

I haven't received a single private or direct message from someone asking or telling me to dial it down. Instead, I have been getting daily messages from collectors and investors asking about strategies to "print on demand" acquisitions. One couldn't possibly blame them for keeping their questions private when a vocal few in here try hard to keep people away from growing possibilities.

The more you guys talk negatively about the NOW brand, the lower the print runs will be, and the more money people will be making. As someone else eloquently stated, you "can't put this cat back in the bag".

[YayNJ]

One day I will log in and Haaland chat won't be on top. Again.

That will be pleasant.

Jesus lads.

[boston12]

Originally Posted by YayNJ

One day I will log in and Haaland chat won't be on top. Again.

That will be pleasant.

Jesus lads.

That may be a while

[mwheeler27]

This card...



...is selling in the $30 range right now:

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_fro...g=200&_fosrp=1

It went up for sale on the Topps website exactly one month ago today. The PR is 1,444. You could buy one for as much as $10 or for as little as $2 direct from Topps.

- At $10, you're looking at close to 3x profit in one month.
- At $2, you're looking at close to 15x profit in one month.

Will this card go down in value? Perhaps. The latest Haaland for sale from Topps just ended today, and the PR has already been announced at 7,575! That makes a 1,444 PR seem low. If Haaland maintains, 1400 won't be enough to meet demand, and it's not likely 7,575 will be either.

Just FYI.

[YayNJ]

You're doing it again.

[boston12]

Either you are all for Topps Now or you aren’t. No changing anyone’s mind about them. I don’t follow the market of Topps Now. Not because I don’t think they are valuable I just have chosen not to go down that rabbit hole. Enough in this hobby to keep me busy as is.

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by YayNJ

You're doing it again.

Why would I stop?

That Haaland card above came out AFTER we started discussing the NOW brand in here. People could have purchased as many as they wanted direct from Topps at MSRP for an entire week without being shut out. They wouldn't have had to fight crowds or lines of people in stores or bots online. Quite unlike buying other soccer product these days.

Happy to see some noticed and were able to take advantage of that opportunity. Very easy to buy and relatively cheap at MSRP. It could payoff well for them.

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by boston12

Either you are all for Topps Now or you aren’t. No changing anyone’s mind about them. I don’t follow the market of Topps Now. Not because I don’t think they are valuable I just have chosen not to go down that rabbit hole. Enough in this hobby to keep me busy as is.

Except print runs and prices keep climbing, so peoples' minds are changing.

The same thing happened with other online exclusives in recent years.

I couldn't agree with you more in regards to your last sentence. Man, there are a lot of things to keep up with in this hobby these days.

[YayNJ]

Originally Posted by mwheeler27

Why would I stop?

because I'll say it if nobody else will - logging in everyday and seeing page after page of this argument about Topps Now is starting to clog up the thread.

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by YayNJ

because I'll say it if nobody else will - logging in everyday and seeing page after page of this argument about Topps Now is starting to clog up the thread.

I understand the affects truth can have on people, and why they don't want to hear/read about it.

There is an ignore feature on Blowout. I don't think anyone can clog up a thread for you if you can't see what they're posting.

[Gin&Juice]

Hate to belabor this but those 1,444 Haaland cards were probably bought by 10 people who each bought 140 copies hoping to re-sell. Almost nobody is buying these cards to collect. Haaland is the hottest commodity in the soccer trading world and still only 1,500 copies of that card sold.

Topps Now is enjoyable to capture early versions of guys before they are included in mainstream releases and to recognize iconic moments. Nobody needs or wants a card each time a guy scores another goal or each time he spreads his arms out and runs to the corner flag.

I will grant you that there are some pretty interesting Topps Now cards. The point has been made. There is nobody reading this thread who still needs to be made aware that this is an option.

Let's at least talk about Haaland and the likelihood that he ends up at Man U.

[kellmuff]

I'm down bad. Passed on a Fussball PSA 9 for $450 Cdn at Christmas and now it's selling for like 3 times that.

[benz35]

Originally Posted by kellmuff

I'm down bad. Passed on a Fussball PSA 9 for $450 Cdn at Christmas and now it's selling for like 3 times that.

i mean you could have bought some crypto last december and you could have made x100 🤣

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by Gin&Juice

Hate to belabor this but those 1,444 Haaland cards were probably bought by 10 people who each bought 140 copies hoping to re-sell. Almost nobody is buying these cards to collect. Haaland is the hottest commodity in the soccer trading world and still only 1,500 copies of that card sold.

Topps Now is enjoyable to capture early versions of guys before they are included in mainstream releases and to recognize iconic moments. Nobody needs or wants a card each time a guy scores another goal or each time he spreads his arms out and runs to the corner flag.

I will grant you that there are some pretty interesting Topps Now cards. The point has been made. There is nobody reading this thread who still needs to be made aware that this is an option.

Let's at least talk about Haaland and the likelihood that he ends up at Man U.

Lots of false information and half truths being spread in here.

There are 3 times as many completed sales on eBay for “topps now Haaland” than listings for sale. One could surmise that means more people are buying than selling.

The 1444 PR card was not available for sale on the U.S. Topps site, yet it still sold over 8 times more copies than the soon to be very famous #11.

The one for sale last week here in the U.S. sold over 7500 copies. (Over 42 times more than #11). Are 7500 copies going to hit eBay for sale over the next few months? I don’t think so.

You guys can push narratives that fit your theories, but numbers AND pricing illustrate a growing interest in this brand. And it’s not just Haaland or soccer. But this is a Haaland thread in a soccer forum.

[Cpdjoe77]

Ignore function for discussions like this never work, someone always quotes the posts you’re trying to block lol. Can we put this one to rest so we don’t have to unfollow the thread? To each their own on Topps now. Moving on. I sold way too early on 23 feb for $2200 smh. Psa 10 that is


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[IndySportsCards]

Originally Posted by mwheeler27

and it's not likely 7,575 will be either.

Just FYI.

Didn't seem to hurt Pedri sales as his was close to 7500 as well.

[IndySportsCards]

Originally Posted by benz35

i mean you could have bought some crypto last december and you could have made x100 🤣

I did

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by IndySportsCards

Didn't seem to hurt Pedri sales as his was close to 7500 as well.

Correct.

Many people bought that card for $2 to $4 dollars each just 5 months ago when it went live. PR = 7,236. With them going for $80 or so now, people are getting back 20x to 40x their investment...in just 5 months.



If this wasn't a Haaland thread, I'd be inclined to post a lot more examples like that.

[YayNJ]

hey - here's a brilliant idea - start a Topps Now thread and it can all go in there!

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by YayNJ

hey - here's a brilliant idea - start a Topps Now thread and it can all go in there!

Sounds like a great idea!

I'll probably keep posting relevant Haaland stuff in the Haaland thread though. Just like members do in all the other player specific threads.

[FarmchairQB]

Originally Posted by orion9578

Agree with all of this. His most recent PSA 10 sales tend to agree with you as well:

Base Finest PSA 10 - $1,625
Base Bundesliga PSA 10 - $1,500
Base Chrome PSA 10 - $650
Base Sapphire PSA 10 - $1,850

Guess now we just wait and see where they all settle as more and more are graded. But for now, Sapphire looks to be the "it" base RC.

Race update, one month later...

Base Finest PSA 10 - $2,125
Base Bundesliga PSA 10 - $3,100
Base Chrome PSA 10 - $1,350
Base Sapphire PSA 10 - $4k
[Panini Fussball PSA 10 - $9,500]

[Gin&Juice]

Each has basically doubled except Finest. Out of curiosity is there a difference in value between the Salzburg and the Dortmund Finest?

[Ianhatcher]

I should think so since the Dortmund Finest is SP at like 1 every 8 cases since it was a part of the Extended Base.

[airharrison21]

You think it’s a good time to sell or a lot more room to increase? Currently have 9.5 true gem + sapphire and psa 9 sapphire.