WWE Discussion thread- Raw/SD/PPV - Page 19

MasterOfTheDark · 12-30-2011, 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by geoffyb

where do you get this info??? i need to see this in print before i believe any rumors about mania

I use LordsOfPain. They are really good about their news being accurate.

Check their old news for that stuff (HBK and HHH), was about 2 weeks ago if memory serves.

Speaking of which, they've updated Orton and the whole thing is confusing. Seems the back injury is legit, but he wasn't really "hurt" in the match and it may only be a few weeks off (instead of months). Weirdness.

cdub6238 · 12-30-2011, 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MasterOfTheDark

I use LordsOfPain. They are really good about their news being accurate.

Check their old news for that stuff (HBK and HHH), was about 2 weeks ago if memory serves.

Speaking of which, they've updated Orton and the whole thing is confusing. Seems the back injury is legit, but he wasn't really "hurt" in the match and it may only be a few weeks off (instead of months). Weirdness.

i second this post. Very goodwith information, results. Even read some of the columns from time to time. They even have their own forum like this for wrestling related talk.

As far as news about Orton, I think it was just speculation at first. When it was first reported, they didnt cite any sources and said he "could miss up to 6 months and miss Wrestlemanie"..now reports on WWE.com have it verified as maybe a few weeks.

mullmaniac99 · 12-30-2011, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by GoJays

If Cena doesn't turn heel after this I may just give up on the WWE. There is no suitable scenario after all of this that doesn't end in a heel turn. I think it'll happen much earlier than WrestleMania, however. I'm thinking probably around Elimination Chamber. I just don't see it working that well if it happens on April 1st.

Heck, it might even happen next Monday. Maybe a Cena heel turn will be the answer to the "it begins" promos.

Yeah maybe, but just imagine the heat he would get in the Rock's hometown turning heel and beating down the Rock with say a chair? Almost like what Austin did at WM 17 to the Rock

mnvikingstwins · 12-30-2011, 10:07 PM

How about some end of the year awards here.

Best opening to Raw

Worst opening to Raw

Best ending on Raw

Worst ending on Raw

Match of year Raw

PPV of year

Worst PPV of year

Title run of year

Worst champion of year

Worst push of year

Worst wrestler of year

mnvikingstwins · 12-30-2011, 10:47 PM

Check out the Wrestlezone title for the SD results

WWE Smackdown Results (12/30) - Wade vs Barrett In A Year End Street Fight
Winner - Ezekiel Neilson

GoJays · 12-30-2011, 11:22 PM

How about some end of the year awards here.

Best opening to Raw - Miz vs Rey Mysterio for WWE Title

Worst opening to Raw - Seriously? Rap off (Cole was great, but JR forgetting his lyrics was AWFUL!)

Best ending on Raw - Tough one, but CM Punk's epic promo

Worst ending on Raw - 6 man tag match last week in Philly

Match of year Raw - CM Punk vs Dolph Ziggler

PPV of year - hands down, MITB

Worst PPV of year - Extreme Rules. One of the worst in a while.

Title run of year - CM Punk's first run for only 1 hour, because of it's epicness!

Worst champion of year - Rey Mysterio. Remember that?

Worst push of year - John Cena. 3 titles is WAAAAYYY too many.

Worst wrestler of year - Botch Cara, Sin Botcha, Mistibotch. Whatever you call him, he was awful.

mnvikingstwins · 12-30-2011, 11:28 PM

Best opening for me was the 4 man show following the walkout with Punk commentating

mullmaniac99 · 12-31-2011, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mnvikingstwins

Best opening for me was the 4 man show following the walkout with Punk commentating

He spilt my diet soda!

mullmaniac99 · 12-31-2011, 02:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mnvikingstwins

Check out the Wrestlezone title for the SD results

WWE Smackdown Results (12/30) - Wade vs Barrett In A Year End Street Fight
Winner - Ezekiel Neilson

my name......

sesmarine04 · 12-31-2011, 12:08 PM

Any chance its Brock Lesnar on Monday? He honestly looked like he botched his fight last night and then "retired from the octagon".

GoJays · 12-31-2011, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by sesmarine04

Any chance its Brock Lesnar on Monday? He honestly looked like he botched his fight last night and then "retired from the octagon".

Did he even land a single punch last night? It had to be one of the worst fights in a while. Looked like he wasn't even trying. This must mean either:

A: he needed the money. Come on, this is Brock lesnar. Let's get real. If he needed money, he'd find a way to get it.

B: he just refused to actually "fight" so he could retire and jump ship. I don't think he'll be in Memphis on Monday, but I do think a return before WrestleMania to feud with the Undertaker (we all saw the confrontation, right?) with Lesnar actually ending the Streak.

Of course maybe he's telling the truth. Maybe he really is going to leave the public eye for a while.

But come on. This is "The Next Big Thing" we're talking about. He'll be back

sesmarine04 · 12-31-2011, 12:34 PM

So maybe the commercials are just for Taker and he comes out then Brock Lesnar comes out to start the the feud during the Taker promo. It was really obvious that Lesnar wasn't trying to win that fight. If he comes to WWE it will be a huge hit to UFC and Dana White.

GoJays · 12-31-2011, 12:48 PM

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Originally Posted by sesmarine04

So maybe the commercials are just for Taker and he comes out then Brock Lesnar comes out to start the the feud during the Taker promo. It was really obvious that Lesnar wasn't trying to win that fight. If he comes to WWE it will be a huge hit to UFC and Dana White.

I don't think it'd be a hit to Dana or UFC at all. If Brock does jump ship it could lead to a good working relationship between Vincent K and Dana. It has been rumored that the two could work together, and with Dana allowing Brock to be in the WWE 12 game, if Brock does jump ship it might be a sign of good things to come.

mullmaniac99 · 12-31-2011, 01:45 PM

Brock is a greedy SOB, if he returned he would want to beat taker i bet and that would be stupid. He thinks he is above WWE so i dont think he would return unless it was part time, a BIG payday, and he wins almost every match. Just like Goldberg lmao

Igman7 · 12-31-2011, 05:22 PM

IMO, what is stupid is having Undertaker in any more matches as well as the push that Kane is getting. Time for those two to ride off into the sunset and accept their place in the HOF.

GoJays · 12-31-2011, 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Igman7

IMO, what is stupid is having Undertaker in any more matches as well as the push that Kane is getting. Time for those two to ride off into the sunset and accept their place in the HOF.

Kane is still physically fit to fight, and IMHO he has some unfinished business with many wrestlers. With the Undertaker it's different. I would've much preferred he retire after WM 26, but he didn't. At this point Vince is just trying to get one final match out of him to make it 20-0 at Mania. Undertaker is in no way physically fit to win a match, and IMHO his win against HHH looked god-awful. HHH was in much better shape, was CLEARLY the better fighter. We will be seeing another UnderTaker match no doubt, and we'll probably see another win, unless it's against Wade Barrett.

mnvikingstwins · 12-31-2011, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by GoJays

Kane is still physically fit to fight, and IMHO he has some unfinished business with many wrestlers. With the Undertaker it's different. I would've much preferred he retire after WM 26, but he didn't. At this point Vince is just trying to get one final match out of him to make it 20-0 at Mania. Undertaker is in no way physically fit to win a match, and IMHO his win against HHH looked god-awful. HHH was in much better shape, was CLEARLY the better fighter. We will be seeing another UnderTaker match no doubt, and we'll probably see another win, unless it's against Wade Barrett.

I really don't think Barrett has proven that he deserves a match with Undertaker, much less a win. Too much potential to fail in his career to be the one to end the streak with the pressure to succeed.

mullmaniac99 · 12-31-2011, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mnvikingstwins

I really don't think Barrett has proven that he deserves a match with Undertaker, much less a win. Too much potential to fail in his career to be the one to end the streak with the pressure to succeed.

Ya Barret cant live up to Takers matches the past 5 or 6 years. Batista, Edge, HBK,HHH >>>>>> Barret

mullmaniac99 · 12-31-2011, 05:59 PM

I think Taker will prob face HHH again this year :/ than his last match has to be with Cena at WM 29 to retire.

GoJays · 12-31-2011, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by mnvikingstwins

I really don't think Barrett has proven that he deserves a match with Undertaker, much less a win. Too much potential to fail in his career to be the one to end the streak with the pressure to succeed.

If Barrett were to receive an actual legitimate push (nexus was a joke, let's face it) there'd be little possibility of failing, and Barrett could become the ultimate heel for the rest of his career if he were to win, something he does almost flawlessly. I agree with you that Barrett hasn't proven it yet, but Barretts involvement in a match with taker could skyrocket his career to a life-long main event status, similar to the way it did with Randy orton.

GoJays · 12-31-2011, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mullmaniac99

I think Taker will prob face HHH again this year :/ than his last match has to be with Cena at WM 29 to retire.

No way they push it past 20-0. If he fights this year, it'll be his last

mullmaniac99 · 12-31-2011, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by GoJays

No way they push it past 20-0. If he fights this year, it'll be his last

Prob but I hate Cena but that would be a crazy match. If they didnt fight at mania it would always be a what if match like HBK vs Rock or Rock vs Taker

mnvikingstwins · 01-02-2012, 11:38 AM

Nashville, Tennessee, and Raw is in Memphis tonight

sesmarine04 · 01-02-2012, 11:52 AM

Is that your pic? Sweet Beatles shirt.

mnvikingstwins · 01-02-2012, 11:54 AM

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Is that your pic? Sweet Beatles shirt.

12-31-2011, 01:45 PM	#464
mullmaniac99 Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Oak Ridge NJ Posts: 4,226	Brock is a greedy SOB, if he returned he would want to beat taker i bet and that would be stupid. He thinks he is above WWE so i dont think he would return unless it was part time, a BIG payday, and he wins almost every match. Just like Goldberg lmao __________________ Bucket: http://s753.photobucket.com/user/mullmaniac99/library/CARDS%20FS%20OR%20FT?sort=3&page=1

12-31-2011, 05:59 PM	#469
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12-30-2011, 10:07 PM	#454
mnvikingstwins Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 42,190 ski_4 ski_4	How about some end of the year awards here. Best opening to Raw Worst opening to Raw Best ending on Raw Worst ending on Raw Match of year Raw PPV of year Worst PPV of year Title run of year Worst champion of year Worst push of year Worst wrestler of year

12-30-2011, 10:47 PM	#455
mnvikingstwins Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 42,190 ski_4 ski_4	Check out the Wrestlezone title for the SD results WWE Smackdown Results (12/30) - Wade vs Barrett In A Year End Street Fight Winner - Ezekiel Neilson

12-30-2011, 11:22 PM	#456
GoJays Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Ottawa, Ontario, Canada Posts: 7,315	How about some end of the year awards here. Best opening to Raw - Miz vs Rey Mysterio for WWE Title Worst opening to Raw - Seriously? Rap off (Cole was great, but JR forgetting his lyrics was AWFUL!) Best ending on Raw - Tough one, but CM Punk's epic promo Worst ending on Raw - 6 man tag match last week in Philly Match of year Raw - CM Punk vs Dolph Ziggler PPV of year - hands down, MITB Worst PPV of year - Extreme Rules. One of the worst in a while. Title run of year - CM Punk's first run for only 1 hour, because of it's epicness! Worst champion of year - Rey Mysterio. Remember that? Worst push of year - John Cena. 3 titles is WAAAAYYY too many. Worst wrestler of year - Botch Cara, Sin Botcha, Mistibotch. Whatever you call him, he was awful.

12-30-2011, 11:28 PM	#457
mnvikingstwins Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 42,190 ski_4 ski_4	Best opening for me was the 4 man show following the walkout with Punk commentating

12-31-2011, 12:08 PM	#460
sesmarine04 Banned Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 4,721	Any chance its Brock Lesnar on Monday? He honestly looked like he botched his fight last night and then "retired from the octagon".

12-31-2011, 12:34 PM	#462
sesmarine04 Banned Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 4,721	So maybe the commercials are just for Taker and he comes out then Brock Lesnar comes out to start the the feud during the Taker promo. It was really obvious that Lesnar wasn't trying to win that fight. If he comes to WWE it will be a huge hit to UFC and Dana White.

12-31-2011, 05:22 PM	#465
Igman7 Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Tinley Park, IL Posts: 3,157 Igman7	IMO, what is stupid is having Undertaker in any more matches as well as the push that Kane is getting. Time for those two to ride off into the sunset and accept their place in the HOF.

01-02-2012, 11:38 AM	#473
mnvikingstwins Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Minneapolis Posts: 42,190 ski_4 ski_4	Nashville, Tennessee, and Raw is in Memphis tonight

01-02-2012, 11:52 AM	#474
sesmarine04 Banned Join Date: Jul 2011 Posts: 4,721	Is that your pic? Sweet Beatles shirt.