Topps Project 2020 is the worst product since 1991 Fleer

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by vermonty

I think it's fair to say that there is some role that good fortune--or bad fortune--has in "shaping our destinies."

But I think it's also reasonable to presume that some individuals have a natural propensity to have an easier time excelling in certain areas, i.e. pretty sure Shaq had less difficulty learning to dunk a basketball than I would under even the most supportive and encouraging training program.

I wonder, do the motivation/interest/priorities to persevere in a given area constitute a "gift" in their own right?

Nope. Shaq’s height is a product of his environment. He was born at the perfect time when he was the oldest in his age group. As he dunked on short goals, that gave his body confidence to continue to grow as the goals kept being raised all the way to 10 feet.

Had you been born the same day right next door, gone to the same school, played the same sport(s), coached by the same coach(es), you would have been an all-Star “big man” as well. The book Outliers says so.

I’m sorry for your unfortunate misfortune.

[vermonty]

Originally Posted by Oliroller

Efdot and JK5 tomorrow?

Sounds right to me. I recall seeing a preview of the Efdot Ichiro with his dog earlier.

Oldmanalan on Tuesday? Seems like he's the most discussed artist on the forum today. I can't wait to see his next one (I predict Willie Mays).

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by vermonty

Sounds right to me. I recall seeing a preview of the Efdot Ichiro with his dog earlier.

Oldmanalan on Tuesday? Seems like he's the most discussed artist on the forum today. I can't wait to see his next one (I predict Willie Mays).

probably some boring picture of Willie from 1951/52, with a photoshopped border

[vermonty]

Originally Posted by cardsforever

Just received shipping notification of my Griffey card #127.

Speaking of Oldmanalan...that is my favorite of his. Followed by the McGwire Bashers card.

[ThoseBackPages]

for the record, i am not hoarding (L)OLDMANALAN

sadly, i did buy his Griffey/Jackie for my Griffey/Jackie sets, and will be forced to spend on his:

Trout
Jeter
Gooden

but only one of each.

i guess he's also scammed me as well as topps.

[dbpsooner]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

probably some boring picture of Willie from 1951/52, with a photoshopped border

How great is that

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by dbpsooner

How great is that

for a 25 cent Archives card? Really great! for a $20 P2020 card? Not so much

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

for the record, i am not hoarding (L)OLDMANALAN

sadly, i did buy his Griffey/Jackie for my Griffey/Jackie sets, and will be forced to spend on his:

Trout
Jeter
Gooden

but only one of each.

i guess he's also scammed me as well as topps.

Nice!!!

[ThoseBackPages]

and if what im saying is "offensive" or "bothers him", then i dont know what to tell ya.

id like to think he'd have thicker skin

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

and if what im saying is "offensive" or "bothers him", then i dont know what to tell ya.

id like to think he'd have thicker skin

I’m sure his skin is thick enough.

[efdot]

I put Ichiro on a skateboard. Why not?

Every photo I found of him looks like he had a perfect skateboarder stance!!

Drops tomorrow with JK5 McGwire.

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by efdot

I put Ichiro on a skateboard. Why not?

Every photo I found of him looks like he had a perfect skateboarder stance!!

Drops tomorrow with JK5 McGwire.

Looking forward to both!

Thanks for sharing.

[vermonty]

Originally Posted by efdot

I put Ichiro on a skateboard. Why not?

Every photo I found of him looks like he had a perfect skateboarder stance!!

Drops tomorrow with JK5 McGwire.

Love it! It will be tough to top your Ripken--one of my favorites in the entire set--but I will definitely get one. I appreciate the details you've been including.

[busyb3]

Originally Posted by efdot

I put Ichiro on a skateboard. Why not?

Every photo I found of him looks like he had a perfect skateboarder stance!!

Drops tomorrow with JK5 McGwire.

Love the previews! Excited to see the whole card.

[Oliroller]

I won't be surprised if the Oldmanalan Mays is the best Mays we have seen yet.

[Jopeal]

Originally Posted by mwheeler27

Nope. Shaq’s height is a product of his environment. He was born at the perfect time when he was the oldest in his age group. As he dunked on short goals, that gave his body confidence to continue to grow as the goals kept being raised all the way to 10 feet.

Had you been born the same day right next door, gone to the same school, played the same sport(s), coached by the same coach(es), you would have been an all-Star “big man” as well. The book Outliers says so.

This checks out.

[vermonty]

Originally Posted by Oliroller

I won't be surprised if the Oldmanalan Mays is the best Mays we have seen yet.

If that's the card, even. Only speculation on my part. That said, although the Mays lineup has been weaker in my judgment, there are some highlights, including the Rochester one (101) which is a really nice card.

[Oliroller]

Rochester Mays is a great card

[blakejamieson]

Originally Posted by mwheeler27

I’ve already read Outliers. I knew you were referencing it above.

You don’t truly believe everybody is born with an equal ability to run equally fast, do you?

Not at all. I completely agree that people are born with different abilities and potential. I just think nurture plays a much bigger role than you are suggesting.

[blakejamieson]

Originally Posted by Silas Barnaby

Why couldn't the art award winner be a 'she'?

You're absolutely right.

[Pacmeyer]

Blame it on the English language. It's awkward writing and saying "he or she" or s/he, and "they" is just bad grammar

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by blakejamieson

Not at all. I completely agree that people are born with different abilities and potential. I just think nurture plays a much bigger role than you are suggesting.

Nurture plays a huge roll. I agree. So does nature.

“Naturally”, men have historically been able to outperform women in some physical sports. It’s evidenced by the fact men primarily play at the highest levels of sport, (NFL, NBA, MLB, NHL, etc.). (This in NO WAY is meant to offend women. If my sister saw me typing this, she’d be very upset. Women can do many things better than men).

If opportunity, (nurture), played a bigger role than nature, we’d have more women playing in the NBA, NFL, MLB, etc. than we do now. I’ve seen women work much harder than men.

What you are “born” with plays a HUGE role in you “potential” success and how far you can go. Nurture is what takes that potential and helps you rise above your peers. Both are necessary, in my opinion, but if you’re not born with the right stuff, others with less nurturing can overcome your success, no matter how well-nurtured you are.

[mwheeler27]

Originally Posted by blakejamieson

You're absolutely right.

And YOU were absolutely right...it is my son that I as referring to as an artist. Had it been my daughter, no offense would have been taken.

[UGLI baby]

Nature vs Nurture, Page 1909.




(making notes for my intern Jonathan who's helping me organize the P2020 coffee table book)

[redauto5]

Originally Posted by UGLI baby

Nature vs Nurture, Page 1909.




(making notes for my intern Jonathan who's helping me organize the P2020 coffee table book)

My confidence of an actual coffee table book being produced grows with every mention of it! I salute you sir.

Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk