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Old 10-09-2020, 10:25 PM   #48801
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John Adams liked to refer to Alexander Hamilton as the "bastard brat of a Scottish huckster."

Thomas Jefferson hired a writer a attack Adams, calling him a "hideous hermaphrodite" who didn't have the strength of a real man or the gentleness of a real woman.

Andrew Jackson's political opponents liked to call him the "son of a common whore" who liked to sleep with mulattoes. They also called his wife an adulteress.

LBJ literally showed a small girl picking flowers in a field moments before she was obliterated by a nuclear blast and then told viewers this was what awaited them if they voted for Goldwater.

Do we need to mention the Willie Horton ads?

Trump and Biden are clowns, but they've actually been pretty tame in the grand scheme of things.
Don’t forget that Andrew Jackson was called an “ass” by his opponents which is the reason the Democratic Party today is the donkey.
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Seriously?

We're stuck in a 2016 rerun...releasing Hillary's emails?

Clearly Pompeo thinks this helps him in 2024 or a 2026 senate run, but doing Trump's bidding at this point seems precarious.
If there is anything damning in them, I will be sure not to vote for Hillary Clinton in this election
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Jamie Harrison now cancels debate w/ Lindsey Graham because he wants Graham to take a COVID test and Graham refuses (rightfully so).

Ridiculous. People that demand things when rules are already agreed upon should NEVER be granted them. Everyone doing these kinds of things / stunts should be shamed.
I live in NC but work in SC - so I am familiar with this ask of Harrison

Graham was asked to test Thursday - and he refused.

He has released a statement however he has not shown any proof he was tested and tested negative.
He was in close contact with a know covid case and CDC says he needs to quarantine.
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Old 10-10-2020, 03:52 AM   #48804
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Seriously?

We're stuck in a 2016 rerun...releasing Hillary's emails?

Clearly Pompeo thinks this helps him in 2024 or a 2026 senate run, but doing Trump's bidding at this point seems precarious.
She broke the law by using a private email server. If it was a normal government worker they would have went to prison. Looking forward to reading 33k emails about Chelseas wedding.
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I live in NC but work in SC - so I am familiar with this ask of Harrison

Graham was asked to test Thursday - and he refused.

He has released a statement however he has not shown any proof he was tested and tested negative.
He was in close contact with a know covid case and CDC says he needs to quarantine.
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Old 10-10-2020, 07:34 AM   #48806
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So, again, why did we lockdown? We were living our lives like normal for months while this virus got around.
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Old 10-10-2020, 07:43 AM   #48807
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So, again, why did we lockdown? We were living our lives like normal for months while this virus got around.
It’s almost as if this was a new virus with no known treatment with people that were struggling to learn about it on the fly. Hindsight is always going to be 20/20.
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It’s almost as if this was a new virus with no known treatment with people that were struggling to learn about it on the fly. Hindsight is always going to be 20/20.
Correct, just like the many that came before it.
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Old 10-10-2020, 08:50 AM   #48809
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After Trump threw a tantrum and said he would not debate a virtual meeting - the Biden campaign scheduled another town hall, elsewhere.
I understand the rights desire to spin this, as the moderators / commissions fault, however, Trump started this fiasco with his tantrum.
Blame Trump for not wanting a virtual meeting, which would probably be a worse fiasco than the first debate all you want but something else has to be in play here or something. Again why cant this be a normal debate if the President is healthy and tests negative?
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So, again, why did we lockdown? We were living our lives like normal for months while this virus got around.
And somehow the virus didnt take us over and kill us all while we were doing nothing different
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She broke the law by using a private email server. If it was a normal government worker they would have went to prison. Looking forward to reading 33k emails about Chelseas wedding.
...and yet the Justice Department and State Department did not view it as worthy of prosecution.

That's important.

Releasing the emails is nothing more than a political play to cater to an unhinged president who merely wants to incite his base as a hail mary to reverse course.

This is garbage politics and an attempt to muddy the water from this current bizarre behavior.

It's not good for the country, it's not good for the GOP and it probably won't be good for Pompeo or Trump.

But go ahead, be excited about reading the emails
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Blame Trump for not wanting a virtual meeting, which would probably be a worse fiasco than the first debate all you want but something else has to be in play here or something. Again why cant this be a normal debate if the President is healthy and tests negative?
This is on Trump 100%.

Seemingly every other case of Covid has followed a much different timeline than President Trump's "miracle" case.

He used the "honor system" before the first debate that he tested negative before the debate, because he curiously was too late to be tested at the debate.

He then supposedly tested positive on Thursday and was given oxygen on Friday, then later hospitalized on Friday? He's clearly still suffering the effects of it, he's be elusive about actual facts and still hasn't stated when he last tested negative. And yet he was "cured" and the best he's felt in 20 years on Monday, while he seemed to still suffer effects even yesterday?

Sorry, none of it adds up.

It's on President Trump for the lack of transparency on the timeline and testing that cancelled this debate.

He has it. It sucks. It's terrible timing. He didn't help himself here however.
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This is on Trump 100%.

Seemingly every other case of Covid has followed a much different timeline than President Trump's "miracle" case.

He used the "honor system" before the first debate that he tested negative before the debate, because he curiously was too late to be tested at the debate.

He then supposedly tested positive on Thursday and was given oxygen on Friday, then later hospitalized on Friday? He's clearly still suffering the effects of it, he's be elusive about actual facts and still hasn't stated when he last tested negative. And yet he was "cured" and the best he's felt in 20 years on Monday, while he seemed to still suffer effects even yesterday?

Sorry, none of it adds up.

It's on President Trump for the lack of transparency on the timeline and testing that cancelled this debate.

He has it. It sucks. It's terrible timing. He didn't help himself here however.
Regardless of the stuff you are talking about if can produce a negative test before the debate should not matter. That is what the experts say.

Oh wait you and others wouldnt believe him anyways
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Old 10-10-2020, 09:31 AM   #48814
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Regardless of the stuff you are talking about if can produce a negative test before the debate should not matter. That is what the experts say.

Oh wait you and others wouldnt believe him anyways
Would anyone rational believe President Trump on anything he's said about his diagnosis or journey with Coronavirus?

Seriously.

I mean that alone is serious TDS.
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Would anyone rational believe President Trump on anything he's said about his diagnosis or journey with Coronavirus?

Seriously.

I mean that alone is serious TDS.
Im not trying to say he has handled the whole thing correctly all i am saying is it seems like a change of the rules when if he could produce a negative test isnt enough.
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Old 10-10-2020, 09:43 AM   #48816
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The dude is toast and knows it. I just want to see Fox News reverse course on four years of this. Gonna be fun to watch. I'll read Hillary's emails while doing so.
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Im not trying to say he has handled the whole thing correctly all i am saying is it seems like a change of the rules when if he could produce a negative test isnt enough.
He first changed the rules. He didn't take a test before the first debate.

We still don't know when he last tested negative. Why? Surely he's been tested, probably daily. That's important to the timeline.

Not simply whether or not he was shedding the virus at the last debate (although seeing how it ran through his debate prep team, seems plausible), but also how long we should expect him to continue through the process once acknowledging his positive test.

Debate aside, these are important. And these facts should be important to White Hoise workers, staff, colleagues, etc.

The uncertainty around the details forced the commission to look at an alternate, accommodating method for the debate town hall to occur. He refused to do it under the modification.

Done.

Election season, time to make other plans.

It's bad timing.
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I live in NC but work in SC - so I am familiar with this ask of Harrison

Graham was asked to test Thursday - and he refused.

He has released a statement however he has not shown any proof he was tested and tested negative.
He was in close contact with a know covid case and CDC says he needs to quarantine.
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Is $10 what it takes to wake you up to reality? Or you still on the BS, nonsense, not fair bus?
An example to show how insane Harrison is for trying to pull this stunt. Courts across the country right now are refusing to change voting rules and regulations because we're too close to an election, with good reason. Trying to change debate rules inside of 24 hours simply because one side wants something is ridiculous. Harrison had weeks to make this request and instead waited until 22 hours before the debate was supposed to start.

A stunt. Nothing more.
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If Trump loses, what are the odds he starts a TV station to compete with Fox News? Or simply buy OAN and rebrand it as Trump TV
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If Trump loses, what are the odds he starts a TV station to compete with Fox News? Or simply buy OAN and rebrand it as Trump TV
If Trump loses then the IRS will finally finish their audit and he’ll be spending the rest of his life in Capone’s jail cell.
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Old 10-10-2020, 10:50 AM   #48825
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...and yet the Justice Department and State Department did not view it as worthy of prosecution.

That's important.

Releasing the emails is nothing more than a political play to cater to an unhinged president who merely wants to incite his base as a hail mary to reverse course.

This is garbage politics and an attempt to muddy the water from this current bizarre behavior.

It's not good for the country, it's not good for the GOP and it probably won't be good for Pompeo or Trump.

But go ahead, be excited about reading the emails
I don't care who it is good for. There should not be two standards of justice in this country. Have to stop allowing politicians and millionaires getting away with breaking the law, but charging everyone else.
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