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bjho852 · 08-03-2025, 08:54 PM

So Cena's brief heel run is all for nothing...at least I guess correctly that his 17th top-tier title won't last until the end of his farewell tour.
Onto the IC title to complete the grand slam before facing someone big for his last opponent, I guess? lol

Edit: nevermind. Onto Brock already. lol

Master Shake · 08-03-2025, 08:55 PM

I was really hoping for something more to conclude the heel storyline. Like maybe have The Rock come out to help Cena and then have Cena stop The Rock or something to that effect. Its just kind of lame having face Cena back because Cody forced him into a street fight.

cdub6238 · 08-03-2025, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaypers

Well at least it ended the right way. And I was wrong about Cena - he's officially a face again, and won't be a heel anymore. He would have been for longer had the crowd not cheered him where ever he went, but anyway....

You couldn't have him retire without facing Brock. Should be good.

The more intriguing thing...where is the Rock?

Hes the one that "turned" Cena heel...and he's basically vanished since, after wanting "Cody's soul"..

Cracktoast · 08-03-2025, 08:57 PM

There was a clue that Lesnar was coming back last night and I bet 99% of you missed it

Jaypers · 08-03-2025, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by bjho852

So Cena's brief heel run is all for nothing...at least I guess correctly that his 17th top-tier title won't last until the end of his farewell tour.
Onto the IC title to complete the grand slam before facing someone big for his last opponent, I guess? lol

He was never going to retire as a heel. He could have prolonged it a while longer but not all the way until December. Would have made no sense.

Jaypers · 08-03-2025, 08:59 PM

Cody got booed quite a bit, but getting Cena's approval at the end should help quell it. (I really liked the salute.)

packman80 · 08-03-2025, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by cdub6238

The more intriguing thing...where is the Rock?

Hes the one that "turned" Cena heel...and he's basically vanished since, after wanting "Cody's soul"..

I wonder if HHH was like screw it we don't want him or need him around anymore and won't put him into any plans that take part with Cody or Cena.

bjho852 · 08-03-2025, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Jaypers

He was never going to retire as a heel. He could have prolonged it a while longer but not all the way until December. Would have made no sense.

Not saying that he stays heel until the end, but the turning back into face this past Friday feels weird to me. Too easy.

Jaypers · 08-03-2025, 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by bjho852

Not saying that he stays heel until the end, but the turning back into face this past Friday feels weird to me. Too easy.

Agreed there. All it took was a two minute apology to undo it all.

Jaypers · 08-03-2025, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by cdub6238

The more intriguing thing...where is the Rock?

Hes the one that "turned" Cena heel...and he's basically vanished since, after wanting "Cody's soul"..

I could live without seeing him again. He threw a big monkeywrench into the works, all to sell more tickets for Elimination Chamber.

Cracktoast · 08-03-2025, 09:09 PM

Who cares if HHH says screw Rock because at the end of the day in real life Rock sits on the TKO Board Of Director's who writes HHH's paycheck. So I don't think Rock gives 2 craps about HHH

ThatGuyPal · 08-03-2025, 09:11 PM

Can always depend on WWE fan logic having no logic lmao hate on Cena’s heel run since it began than also be upset they turned him back face. It’s what I would expect from the same fans who will cheer a Vince or Brock like a returning hero but boo Hogan out of the building lol

packman80 · 08-03-2025, 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cracktoast

Who cares if HHH says screw Rock because at the end of the day in real life Rock sits on the TKO Board Of Director's who writes HHH's paycheck. So I don't think Rock gives 2 craps about HHH

You can sit on the board but have zero say in how the company is run.

Anarchy99 · 08-03-2025, 09:21 PM

Cena's heel turn was intriguing, but ultimately once it was made clear Rock nor even Travis Scott would be around it quickly turned into "im going to call the fans horrible human beings" in every promo into May. like he just said on Smackdown, it made for "shocking TV" but was real forced.

Pretty sure trying to sell DCU as one of their top draws by trashing fans at shows even ifs for "for show" probably not greatest of ideas.

Again his heel turn was interesting......for all of about a week or 2. If Rock was made to be around or even around long enough to help sell it even more than i think it would have had longer legs into the fall. Instead, pivot, WWE does love to pivot

Now he can have match with Brock and then likely put Drew over and then one of either Breakerr or Gunther before the end

bjho852 · 08-03-2025, 09:36 PM

Speaking of his brief heel run this year, if the plan is to turn Cena back into a face this SummerSlam, then I don't think that his apology promo this past Friday is even necessary. Simply stay heel until the end of this match, shake and raise Cody's hands afterward, and the face turn is done.

mtr · 08-03-2025, 11:59 PM

WWE has had some fantastic heel turns over the last few months that have just ended up going nowhere. First New Day, now Cena, and I feel like Seth is heading that way as well.

Cracktoast · 08-04-2025, 12:02 AM

Reports are WWE flew Lesnar in and out of several airports in an attempt to throw people off then snuck him into Teterboro on a private jet where they kept him hidden all day Sunday. He didn't make an appearance backstage until just a couple of minutes before he came out.

DrZman · 08-04-2025, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Cracktoast

There was a clue that Lesnar was coming back last night and I bet 99% of you missed it

Was it WWE touting videos of Triple H with a Felon and a registered sex offender? Let the audience know to expect more trash people to be incoming shortly?

packman80 · 08-04-2025, 05:44 AM

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Originally Posted by DrZman

Was it WWE touting videos of Triple H with a Felon and a registered sex offender? Let the audience know to expect more trash people to be incoming shortly?

WWE does not care about the people who think it's cool to scream cancel everyone because I express fake outrage over everything. People get offended who the WWE does business with they are free not to watch.

marl1220 · 08-04-2025, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by packman80

WWE does not care about the people who think it's cool to scream cancel everyone because I express fake outrage over everything. People get offended who the WWE does business with they are free not to watch.

Well, that is the Right way of looking at things. Not the "correct" way, but the Right way.

Mandy1320 · 08-04-2025, 07:42 AM

I'm guessing the Lesnar thing was in the works for a while now and it got greenlit this past week. It would explain the sudden return to face for Cena on Friday instead of a more gradual plot line.

JustinVerlander07 · 08-04-2025, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by packman80

Bad takes? Only a foolish homer would think were Cena hits 8 AA's and does not win and that Cody hits like 7 CrossRhodes to win is a good match.

I myself am not a fan of spamming finishing moves, but the match was entertaining and certainly better than their Mania match, also you have a long list of bad takes.

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Originally Posted by Jaypers

Cody got booed quite a bit, but getting Cena's approval at the end should help quell it. (I really liked the salute.)

Cody mentioned on Bill Simmons's podcast he expected to be boo'd.

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Originally Posted by Jaypers

Agreed there. All it took was a two minute apology to undo it all.

I think that's all it took because the people have wanted to cheer him the whole time. I enjoyed his heel stuff, it was fun, but his core fanbase just wants to cheer him.

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Lesnar was certainly a surprise, but I don't find myself excited to see him vs Cena in a who shows up less match. Cena is down to 9-10 dates over 4 months? Who is suppose to carry the feud if neither of them ever show up?

Cracktoast · 08-04-2025, 08:46 AM

Sounds like the untelevised dark match was better than some of the actual matches last night. lol

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A large fight occurred outside the ring at WWE’s SummerSlam on Sunday, and it was not the Cody Rhodes-John Cena street fight.

A video posted to X captured what appeared to be three female fans going at it in the stands, and then a male fan grabbing one of the women and pulling her away from behind.

Another man appeared to grab the male fan, and two women from the ruckus exchanged some hair-pulling and punches. A total of six fans appeared to be directly involved, although only one woman was seen throwing punches in the video. However, the woman in the red pants appeared to land a kick on one of the men after security settled most of the madness down.

It is unclear what provoked the brouhaha.

packman80 · 08-04-2025, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

I myself am not a fan of spamming finishing moves, but the match was entertaining and certainly better than their Mania match, also you have a long list of bad takes.

Cody mentioned on Bill Simmons's podcast he expected to be boo'd.

I think that's all it took because the people have wanted to cheer him the whole time. I enjoyed his heel stuff, it was fun, but his core fanbase just wants to cheer him.

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Lesnar was certainly a surprise, but I don't find myself excited to see him vs Cena in a who shows up less match. Cena is down to 9-10 dates over 4 months? Who is suppose to carry the feud if neither of them ever show up?

You should not criticize anyone on bad takes when you have a huge list

cdub6238 · 08-04-2025, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by DrZman

Was it WWE touting videos of Triple H with a Felon and a registered sex offender? Let the audience know to expect more trash people to be incoming shortly?

please keep this crap out of here and don't get this closed...

How about, as posted before, don't watch?

Vince McMahon has been accused of MULTIPLE things over the years...sure that's fine...

But how dare they associate with Trump and NFL legend LT...

08-03-2025, 08:54 PM	#49551
bjho852 Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 4,232	So Cena's brief heel run is all for nothing...at least I guess correctly that his 17th top-tier title won't last until the end of his farewell tour. Onto the IC title to complete the grand slam before facing someone big for his last opponent, I guess? lol Edit: nevermind. Onto Brock already. lol __________________ Instagram (IG): bjho852 Last edited by bjho852; 08-03-2025 at 09:00 PM.

08-03-2025, 08:59 PM	#49556
Jaypers Bowman Scout Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: IL Posts: 51,746 cardboardconglomerate	Cody got booed quite a bit, but getting Cena's approval at the end should help quell it. (I really liked the salute.) __________________ Impervious to baiting.

08-03-2025, 09:36 PM	#49565
bjho852 Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 4,232	Speaking of his brief heel run this year, if the plan is to turn Cena back into a face this SummerSlam, then I don't think that his apology promo this past Friday is even necessary. Simply stay heel until the end of this match, shake and raise Cody's hands afterward, and the face turn is done. __________________ Instagram (IG): bjho852

08-03-2025, 08:55 PM	#49552
Master Shake Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,115 mastershaketoyou	I was really hoping for something more to conclude the heel storyline. Like maybe have The Rock come out to help Cena and then have Cena stop The Rock or something to that effect. Its just kind of lame having face Cena back because Cody forced him into a street fight.

08-03-2025, 08:57 PM	#49554
Cracktoast Member Join Date: May 2024 Posts: 1,876	There was a clue that Lesnar was coming back last night and I bet 99% of you missed it

08-03-2025, 09:09 PM	#49561
Cracktoast Member Join Date: May 2024 Posts: 1,876	Who cares if HHH says screw Rock because at the end of the day in real life Rock sits on the TKO Board Of Director's who writes HHH's paycheck. So I don't think Rock gives 2 craps about HHH

08-03-2025, 09:11 PM	#49562
ThatGuyPal Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 4,347	Can always depend on WWE fan logic having no logic lmao hate on Cena’s heel run since it began than also be upset they turned him back face. It’s what I would expect from the same fans who will cheer a Vince or Brock like a returning hero but boo Hogan out of the building lol

08-03-2025, 09:21 PM	#49564
Anarchy99 Member Join Date: Feb 2023 Posts: 177	Cena's heel turn was intriguing, but ultimately once it was made clear Rock nor even Travis Scott would be around it quickly turned into "im going to call the fans horrible human beings" in every promo into May. like he just said on Smackdown, it made for "shocking TV" but was real forced. Pretty sure trying to sell DCU as one of their top draws by trashing fans at shows even ifs for "for show" probably not greatest of ideas. Again his heel turn was interesting......for all of about a week or 2. If Rock was made to be around or even around long enough to help sell it even more than i think it would have had longer legs into the fall. Instead, pivot, WWE does love to pivot Now he can have match with Brock and then likely put Drew over and then one of either Breakerr or Gunther before the end

08-03-2025, 11:59 PM	#49566
mtr Member Join Date: Jan 2021 Posts: 312	WWE has had some fantastic heel turns over the last few months that have just ended up going nowhere. First New Day, now Cena, and I feel like Seth is heading that way as well.

08-04-2025, 12:02 AM	#49567
Cracktoast Member Join Date: May 2024 Posts: 1,876	Reports are WWE flew Lesnar in and out of several airports in an attempt to throw people off then snuck him into Teterboro on a private jet where they kept him hidden all day Sunday. He didn't make an appearance backstage until just a couple of minutes before he came out.

08-04-2025, 07:42 AM	#49571
Mandy1320 Member Join Date: Aug 2020 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 2,793 marande-5259	I'm guessing the Lesnar thing was in the works for a while now and it got greenlit this past week. It would explain the sudden return to face for Cena on Friday instead of a more gradual plot line.