CFB: Dan Mullen to Florida, Greg Schiano to the Vols - Page 2

hairysasquatch · 11-26-2017, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rman112

How much of it, though? The PSU stuff is absolutely inexcusable if he knew, but I feel like a lot of it is just thinking he's not a quality coach.

I guess it's excusable enough for Urbz and tOSU where he has been DC for awhile.

mhcook · 11-26-2017, 09:06 PM

GBO

asujbl · 11-26-2017, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by hairysasquatch

I guess it's excusable enough for Urbz and tOSU where he has been DC for awhile.

2016 is awhile?

pgisback · 11-26-2017, 09:49 PM

Geez, the mob got this one on Schiano. There's not even a shred of evidence that Schiano knew anything. Just a he said, he once said, but this other guy said, that Schiano might have known something. Crazy.

TWard · 11-26-2017, 10:03 PM

Man, i hope the Vols don’t get Mike Norvell. I don’t care if he goes to Miss State, Texas A&M, Arkansas, Nebraska or Arizona State, just not UT!

lambeauleap87 · 11-26-2017, 10:04 PM

Schiano is about to collect a real big check from Tennessee because of a mob based on hearsay.

HP7163 · 11-26-2017, 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by lambeauleap87

Schiano is about to collect a real big check from Tennessee because of a mob based on hearsay.

Doubtful. I'm sure there is a clause for limited time there

Cavaliercards · 11-26-2017, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HP7163

Doubtful. I'm sure there is a clause for limited time there

IF he signed a deal I doubt it. A contract is a contract, if there was limited time teams would dump coaches quicker.

If he is smart he banks $5 million and stays put.

pgisback · 11-26-2017, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by lambeauleap87

Schiano is about to collect a real big check from Tennessee because of a mob based on hearsay.

I wonder how that will play out. Because before he was just a guy who was kind of connected to the Penn St thing, now he will forever be known as the guy who was given a job at one of the biggest football schools in the country but had the job taken away because of it. I'm sure he'll get some buyout. Because that's terrible for him.

HP7163 · 11-26-2017, 10:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

IF he signed a deal I doubt it. A contract is a contract, if there was limited time teams would dump coaches quicker.

If he is smart he banks $5 million and stays put.

I would think there is something in terms of lack of days before 100 effective but I'm guessing obv

I don't doubt he's going to walk away with something thought so I agree with u

TWard · 11-26-2017, 10:23 PM

This is truth right here:

mr10pin · 11-26-2017, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by hairysasquatch

I guess it's excusable enough for Urbz and tOSU where he has been DC for awhile.

In true fashion for the OSUMichigan rivalry I wanted to respond with something about Michigan covering up for Brandon Gibbons' sexual assault. Unfortunately, as I was typing it out Taylor Lewan threatened to come physically assault me if I told anyone. I wonder if the athletic department in Ann Arbor will cover this one up, too.

Also, you can save any shots about tattoos and gold pants. They were wrong, got exposed, tressell lied and OSU was punished. Trading trinkets isn't quite the same as covering up sexual assault.

JCC6603 · 11-26-2017, 11:45 PM

This is 100% on the UT leadership. If there is a 1% chance he knew, how can he be the face of your program? He should have never been considered let alone offered the job. Someone will lose their job over this

hairysasquatch · 11-26-2017, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mr10pin

In true fashion for the OSUMichigan rivalry I wanted to respond with something about Michigan covering up for Brandon Gibbons' sexual assault. Unfortunately, as I was typing it out Taylor Lewan threatened to come physically assault me if I told anyone. I wonder if the athletic department in Ann Arbor will cover this one up, too.

Also, you can save any shots about tattoos and gold pants. They were wrong, got exposed, tressell lied and OSU was punished. Trading trinkets isn't quite the same as covering up sexual assault.

I don't really see your point. It may be the case that OSU did their homework, determined Schiano was OK, and people are right that Tennessee overreacted because they think he is a crappy coach. But if they didn't, and the nature of Schiano's involvement in the Sandusky scandal is significant, then what? Did he resign from OSU already? Are people at OSU going to welcome him back with open arms after this sh*tstorm?

HP7163 · 11-26-2017, 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JCC6603

This is 100% on the UT leadership. If there is a 1% chance he knew, how can he be the face of your program? He should have never been considered let alone offered the job. Someone will lose their job over this

Agreed .. it's a "rumor" but that's the WORST rumor imaginable and with smoke there's fire since it spanned 30 years with MULTIPLE people knowing

hairysasquatch · 11-26-2017, 11:59 PM

"Court documents released in the summer of 2015 included a deposition from former Penn State coach Mike McQueary, who indicated former Penn State assistant Tom Bradley said Schiano went to him in the early 1990s "white as a ghost and said he just saw Jerry doing something to a boy in the shower."

OK, so where does this get us with Bradley and Schiano? Is this to be dismissed as hearsay? I'm asking.

I think what this whole episode reveals more than anything else is that emotions are still (justly) raw over the horror show in State College during the Sandusky era.

Cavaliercards · 11-27-2017, 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by hairysasquatch

"Court documents released in the summer of 2015 included a deposition from former Penn State coach Mike McQueary, who indicated former Penn State assistant Tom Bradley said Schiano went to him in the early 1990s "white as a ghost and said he just saw Jerry doing something to a boy in the shower."

OK, so where does this get us with Bradley and Schiano? Is this to be dismissed as hearsay? I'm asking.

I think what this whole episode reveals more than anything else is that emotions are still (justly) raw over the horror show in State College during the Sandusky era.

Bradley and Schiano both said never happened.

The guy who was lead reporter and dug up a lot of stuff that lawyers used has even said Schiano got railroaded by fans wanting a better coach.

AG of Pennsylvania brought 0 charges and didn't even mention Schiano as a knowing party.

pgisback · 11-27-2017, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JCC6603

This is 100% on the UT leadership. If there is a 1% chance he knew, how can he be the face of your program? He should have never been considered let alone offered the job. Someone will lose their job over this

There’s no reason he shouldn’t be hired as a coach. He’s done nothing wrong.

HP7163 · 11-27-2017, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

Bradley and Schiano both said never happened.

The guy who was lead reporter and dug up a lot of stuff that lawyers used has even said Schiano got railroaded by fans wanting a better coach.

AG of Pennsylvania brought 0 charges and didn't even mention Schiano as a knowing party.

Sorry but over 30 years and a slap on the wrist for the horror that football program let happen is enough for me to rationally ask HOW does Penn state or anyone connected have a program ?!?? It's insane

The people even prosecuting penn state let people off like Paterno who though died was a bad man . You can't disagree

Cavaliercards · 11-27-2017, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by HP7163

Sorry but over 30 years and a slap on the wrist for the horror that football program let happen is enough for me to rationally ask HOW does Penn state or anyone connected have a program ?!?? It's insane

The people even prosecuting penn state let people off like Paterno who though died was a bad man . You can't disagree

I am not a Penn State defender I actually rip them, but when the Schiano has to go started there was not a mention of PSU until Clay Travis brought it up and then full steam ahead.

HP7163 · 11-27-2017, 12:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

I am not a Penn State defender I actually rip them, but when the Schiano has to go started there was not a mention of PSU until Clay Travis brought it up and then full steam ahead.

I'm not coming at you if it appears that way but that whole horrible situation makes me mad... think about it.. over 30 years of people knowing .

I look at it like this.. we're men.. in college or even HS most of us all went to a party and got drunk then slept with a girl we didn't care for .. even then rumors spread so like I said if there's smoke, there's fire .

Yes I agree the internet media is a killer with zero credibility but this one kinda irks me since it was exposed to a harsh rumor that many knew of.. just sad When it's obvious PEOPLE KNEW ..

And because Joe Pa brought so much money to happy valley people didn't wanna care .. disgraceful

pgisback · 11-27-2017, 12:46 AM

Schiano rightfully looking for compensation...

https://www.seccountry.com/tennessee...see-deal-falls

Cavaliercards · 11-27-2017, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by pgisback

Schiano rightfully looking for compensation...

https://www.seccountry.com/tennessee...see-deal-falls

Pay him half of the contract

HP7163 · 11-27-2017, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

Pay him half of the contract

Forget that ... he knows he's playing with house money .. 1/4 at most

Cavaliercards · 11-27-2017, 12:52 AM

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Originally Posted by HP7163

Forget that ... he knows he's playing with house money .. 1/4 at most

If there is a signed deal, which has been alleged, he could get the full deal. Give him half and let Haslam pay it as he pushed for Schiano.

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hairysasquatch Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: In the Woods, Central NY Posts: 36,981	"Court documents released in the summer of 2015 included a deposition from former Penn State coach Mike McQueary, who indicated former Penn State assistant Tom Bradley said Schiano went to him in the early 1990s "white as a ghost and said he just saw Jerry doing something to a boy in the shower." OK, so where does this get us with Bradley and Schiano? Is this to be dismissed as hearsay? I'm asking. I think what this whole episode reveals more than anything else is that emotions are still (justly) raw over the horror show in State College during the Sandusky era. __________________ I am going signature-free

11-26-2017, 09:49 PM	#29
pgisback Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Seattle Posts: 21,023	Geez, the mob got this one on Schiano. There's not even a shred of evidence that Schiano knew anything. Just a he said, he once said, but this other guy said, that Schiano might have known something. Crazy.

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11-26-2017, 11:45 PM	#38
JCC6603 Member Join Date: Sep 2014 Location: Knoxville TN Posts: 2,831 JCC6603 JCC6603	This is 100% on the UT leadership. If there is a 1% chance he knew, how can he be the face of your program? He should have never been considered let alone offered the job. Someone will lose their job over this

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pgisback Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Seattle Posts: 21,023	Schiano rightfully looking for compensation... https://www.seccountry.com/tennessee...see-deal-falls