The "next" Mike Trout... - Page 2

Wiseguy917 · 05-01-2019, 09:48 AM

Trout isn’t even the next Trout. He looks awful this year. He got paid, now here comes the slow decline.

fitefanSHO · 05-01-2019, 09:50 AM

That's what concerns me for Acuna.

What's to keep him from getting fat and lazy?

Or is he driven to be great, not just financially secure?

danimal875 · 05-01-2019, 09:52 AM

We won't see another Mike Trout for quite awhile. The last player on his level was Griffey Jr. and before Griffey it was Mantle and Mays. And preceding them Williams and DiMaggio. Thats 7 guys in 80 years, and 2 of them were playing at the same time as another 2.
Plenty of great players and Hall of Famers have come around and are playing great baseball right now but Trouty is on the highest level. He literally could suffer a career ending injury and retire next year and he would go to the Hall. I personally don't think he has entered the conversation with those 7 just yet because he hasn't had that jaw dropping season just yet, Griffey didn't have his first insane season until he was 28. Trout is 27 now, until he has his signature season like Mays 55', Mantle 56', Griffey 97', he is still in the same boat as Frank Robinson in my book.
I hope someone comes along soon, Harper was a relative disappointment because it would have been fun to keep the argument going. I like all the players on this list but I don't see any of them entering this stratosphere.

azbaseballfan · 05-01-2019, 09:58 AM

Kelenic.

fitefanSHO · 05-01-2019, 09:58 AM

Somebody has to be the next top draw in cards.

Can't and won't be Trout forever. He's just a man.

tconte · 05-01-2019, 10:04 AM

Maybe Acuna or Soto. We'll know better in a 2-3 years.

shayscards79 · 05-01-2019, 10:04 AM

If they've already been I the league for four years, and you can't call them the next Trout, well then it isn't going to happen.

dbpsooner · 05-01-2019, 10:05 AM

Wander Franco? Maybe by the time he gets called up Trout might finally start to decline.

Raleigh504 · 05-01-2019, 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ClevelandIC

I'm from Cleveland so I'm a little bias but he seems like an easy choice to me. Both from a marketing standpoint and actual skill level. Only at 100 career home runs but the 3rd youngest shortstop to do it behind Cal Ripken and ARod. He is not staying in Cleveland so the marketability most likely rises when he becomes a free agent.

Surprisingly enough I do think his cards already have some huge upside built in. His PSA 10 update rookie already sells for $50-$70. I think those could easily double with a hometown showing in the All-Star Game and/or Home Run Derby. When he homered in the Puerto Rico series early in the season last year you would've thought PR just won the WBC, it was absolutely incredible. Gave me chills and a moment that I will remember for a long time.

If he sustains a 30+ HR pace for the next 5 years and hits 40 one year while stealing 20-30 and batting .280 I can only see his rookies climbing. His defense is tremendous, already has a platinum glove under his belt. I think the second half of 2015 he was over shadowed by Correa but their seasons were not that far off and you could easily make a case that Lindor was the ROY that season. Again in 2017 he was overshadowed by Correa and the rest of the Astros as they went on to win the World Series but the Indians should coast into the playoffs and could make a deep run with that staff. Again, I'm an Indians fan, take everything I say with a grain of salt but he is hard not to like.

One more small note. I have exactly one Lindor PSA 10 rookie that I plan on keeping in my personal collection so this isn't a hype post for you to buy my cards. Just an honest opinion of who could be "Mr. 2nd Place"

Also from Cleveland and an Indians fan as well (grew up in Avon, but live in NC now). Adding on to what you said, I would say it depends on two factors as well. 1) if he wins at least 1 WS and 2) where he ends up after he is a FA. I assume a big market, which will help, but if he ends up in a mid-market who overspends on him then it will hurt him.

no10pin · 05-01-2019, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Wiseguy917

Trout isn’t even the next Trout. He looks awful this year. He got paid, now here comes the slow decline.

His OPS+ is higher this year than his career number.

LCM1223 · 05-01-2019, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Wiseguy917

Trout isn’t even the next Trout. He looks awful this year. He got paid, now here comes the slow decline.

MLB.com’s most recent Trout article

“Here’s how Mike Trout has gotten even better”

rainmaker · 05-01-2019, 10:11 AM

from a hobby perspective it is clearly at least at this moment ronald acuna. interest in his cards are on another level above everyone else. yelich and belli are the flipping flavors of the month but acuna has organic growth with his high end cards getting locked away in the vault. as an example good luck finding a batting ssp on the open market right now.

do i think he has the potential to be best in the game year after year like trout? maybe... only problem is trout is still around and just getting to his prime!

WizardofOz1982 · 05-01-2019, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Wiseguy917

Trout isn’t even the next Trout. He looks awful this year. He got paid, now here comes the slow decline.

He's on pace for 11.5 fWAR right now. He's walking twice as much as he's striking out. He's on pace for a 30/30 .300/.400/.500 season.

Hopefully this is one of those moments when sarcasm didn't transcend text.

griffan15 · 05-01-2019, 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by fitefanSHO

Somebody has to be the next top draw in cards.

Can't and won't be Trout forever. He's just a man.

Damn bro, who did you offend just now to get the Temp Suspension?

10 minutes after you post this.....poof.

rainmaker · 05-01-2019, 10:15 AM

hes been saying some dumb #@#@#@#@ in posts recently not all that surprised

griffan15 · 05-01-2019, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by rainmaker

hes been saying some dumb #@#@#@#@ in posts recently not all that surprised

That, or Trout is not human and wields the ban-hammer like Houdini.

Tread lightly my friends.

gopherfan · 05-01-2019, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by fitefanSHO

Plenty of people have no idea who "Mike Trout" is.

He's not really like the Yankees Micky Mantle in that way.

When Mickey played:

NFL was visually non-existent.
NBA-body cared.
NHL-even less people cared.
Soccer-even less people care than today.
No wresting, no UFC.
Boxing and Horse Racing were on the radar.

People didn't binge watch season series of TV shows. They didn't spend all day updating Twitter and Instagram.

Things are slightly different now. Nobody will ever carry sway like Mickey did.

pewe · 05-01-2019, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by danimal875

We won't see another Mike Trout for quite awhile. The last player on his level was Griffey Jr. and before Griffey it was Mantle and Mays. And preceding them Williams and DiMaggio. Thats 7 guys in 80 years, and 2 of them were playing at the same time as another 2.
Plenty of great players and Hall of Famers have come around and are playing great baseball right now but Trouty is on the highest level. He literally could suffer a career ending injury and retire next year and he would go to the Hall. I personally don't think he has entered the conversation with those 7 just yet because he hasn't had that jaw dropping season just yet, Griffey didn't have his first insane season until he was 28. Trout is 27 now, until he has his signature season like Mays 55', Mantle 56', Griffey 97', he is still in the same boat as Frank Robinson in my book.
I hope someone comes along soon, Harper was a relative disappointment because it would have been fun to keep the argument going. I like all the players on this list but I don't see any of them entering this stratosphere.

You don't count Pujols on this list???

Wiseguy917 · 05-01-2019, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by WizardofOz1982

He's on pace for 11.5 fWAR right now. He's walking twice as much as he's striking out. He's on pace for a 30/30 .300/.400/.500 season.

Hopefully this is one of those moments when sarcasm didn't transcend text.

Lol “on pace”

Bellinger is “on pace” to hit 72 homeruns, and have 192 RBI’s with a .430 average. I’m also “on pace” to eat 12 times today, poop 9 times and drive 500 miles.

pewe · 05-01-2019, 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by shayscards79

If they've already been I the league for four years, and you can't call them the next Trout, well then it isn't going to happen.

Didn't it take Mike Trout 3-4 years to become the collecting phenomenon he is??? I mean even in 2015-2016 his cards were dirt cheap compared to today

rainmaker · 05-01-2019, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Wiseguy917

Lol “on pace”

Bellinger is “on pace” to hit 72 homeruns, and have 192 RBI’s with a .430 average. I’m also “on pace” to eat 12 times today, poop 9 times and drive 500 miles.

ha! i dont agree with your assessment of trout but this was well played

RYBOWSKI97 · 05-01-2019, 10:26 AM

i can see acuna taking over the hobby top spot in the next 3-4 years. if lindor ends up a yankee he can possibly be a top guy too.

Sportnut08 · 05-01-2019, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by shayscards79

If they've already been I the league for four years, and you can't call them the next Trout, well then it isn't going to happen.

Really? Look at all the horror stories from 2015/2016 when people were selling Trout at “peak value,” which is less than Yelich is currently going for.

shayscards79 · 05-01-2019, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by pewe

Didn't it take Mike Trout 3-4 years to become the collecting phenomenon he is??? I mean even in 2015-2016 his cards were dirt cheap compared to today

If we're talking from a card standpoint, it probably would take 3-4 years. But if we're talking playing baseball, it'd probably be obvious within a couple years.... usually.

cnewby · 05-01-2019, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by griffan15

Damn bro, who did you offend just now to get the Temp Suspension?

10 minutes after you post this.....poof.

I think hes the one who went political in the CC thread.

05-01-2019, 09:48 AM	#26
Wiseguy917 Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 3,558	Trout isn’t even the next Trout. He looks awful this year. He got paid, now here comes the slow decline. __________________ PSA is like a 70s Porn Star...They don’t care if it’s trimmed or not. Being nice is something stupid people do to hedge their bets

05-01-2019, 10:04 AM	#32
shayscards79 Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: San Diego Posts: 3,876 shayscards79	If they've already been I the league for four years, and you can't call them the next Trout, well then it isn't going to happen. __________________ Cubs and Colts fan!!! Collecting all vintage stars... especially Ernie Banks Collecting any and all Indianapolis Colts cards

05-01-2019, 10:11 AM	#37
rainmaker Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 2,825 thewescoast	from a hobby perspective it is clearly at least at this moment ronald acuna. interest in his cards are on another level above everyone else. yelich and belli are the flipping flavors of the month but acuna has organic growth with his high end cards getting locked away in the vault. as an example good luck finding a batting ssp on the open market right now. do i think he has the potential to be best in the game year after year like trout? maybe... only problem is trout is still around and just getting to his prime! __________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/152850287@N08/albums

05-01-2019, 10:15 AM	#40
rainmaker Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Posts: 2,825 thewescoast	hes been saying some dumb #@#@#@#@ in posts recently not all that surprised __________________ https://www.flickr.com/photos/152850287@N08/albums

05-01-2019, 10:26 AM	#47
RYBOWSKI97 Member Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: northeast ohio Posts: 4,450 rybowski97	i can see acuna taking over the hobby top spot in the next 3-4 years. if lindor ends up a yankee he can possibly be a top guy too. __________________ PC- Jordan, Antoine Walker, Favre, LT, Gooden 80'S-90'S RCS & INSERTS GRADED STAR & HOF RCS Son PC--Trout, Lindor, Westbrook, Lebron, OBJ, B Mayfield, Cleveland teams and OSU players

05-01-2019, 09:50 AM	#27
fitefanSHO Banned Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 826	That's what concerns me for Acuna. What's to keep him from getting fat and lazy? Or is he driven to be great, not just financially secure?

05-01-2019, 09:52 AM	#28
danimal875 Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Central New Jersey Posts: 4,929 thunder_cards thundercards	We won't see another Mike Trout for quite awhile. The last player on his level was Griffey Jr. and before Griffey it was Mantle and Mays. And preceding them Williams and DiMaggio. Thats 7 guys in 80 years, and 2 of them were playing at the same time as another 2. Plenty of great players and Hall of Famers have come around and are playing great baseball right now but Trouty is on the highest level. He literally could suffer a career ending injury and retire next year and he would go to the Hall. I personally don't think he has entered the conversation with those 7 just yet because he hasn't had that jaw dropping season just yet, Griffey didn't have his first insane season until he was 28. Trout is 27 now, until he has his signature season like Mays 55', Mantle 56', Griffey 97', he is still in the same boat as Frank Robinson in my book. I hope someone comes along soon, Harper was a relative disappointment because it would have been fun to keep the argument going. I like all the players on this list but I don't see any of them entering this stratosphere.

05-01-2019, 09:58 AM	#29
azbaseballfan Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Flagstaff, AZ Posts: 2,039 bowmanbowser	Kelenic.

05-01-2019, 10:04 AM	#31
tconte Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: Marlton, NJ - Less Than an Hour from the Millville Meteor! Posts: 2,036 aconte	Maybe Acuna or Soto. We'll know better in a 2-3 years.

05-01-2019, 10:05 AM	#33
dbpsooner Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Omaha Posts: 2,985 dbpsooner	Wander Franco? Maybe by the time he gets called up Trout might finally start to decline.