1987 Fleer Jordan WTF?

[Tommy1380]

Originally Posted by Willikn

Pippen 1988 Fleer is closing in on the 1986 Fleer Barkley/(H)Akeem pricing.

That is nuts.

This coming from someone with a lot of 1988 Fleer. I don't want to sell but I may have to. No way this holds.

If we're being honest, Pippen's only rookie card, with only 217 PSA 10s and 43 BGS 9.5s, had no business being valued at $500.

I bought one last year when I saw them drop below $500. I couldn't believe how cheap they were. Just wish I had bought a Jordan as well.

[Dontom]

This makes perfect sense to me. Most new collectors looking to pic up a early Jordan card are going to be priced out of his rookie. So what do they do? They go to the next year and buy that because that is the earliest Jordan card they can afford.

Same thing is happening with the Star 101. A lot of collectors want a Jordan card from 85 but they can't afford the 101. So the 85 Nike card and the 85 star Lite, Gatorade, Last 11 and Crunch and Munch will be their next choice thus making those cards more valuable. When those are priced out they will move on to the next and so on...

[ninjacookies]

>these threads
>low post count bois

[mc1]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

>these threads
>low post count bois

[deemsterz33]

Originally Posted by Tommy1380

If we're being honest, Pippen's only rookie card, with only 217 PSA 10s and 43 BGS 9.5s, had no business being valued at $500.

I bought one last year when I saw them drop below $500. I couldn't believe how cheap they were. Just wish I had bought a Jordan as well.

Agreed. Always thought his RC was wildly undervalued. Nothing to do now, but think of all the $60-70 BINs on PSA 9s that I hovered over and didn't click.

Definitely makes Stockton's look like a good bargain.

[cajen2]

The 87 Fleer Jordan has almost double to triple now? Wow. I also see Tim Duncan rising in value lately as well.

[mjcollector]

Haven't checked mj market in a few months and surprised!! I thought the virus and unemployment issues would lower prices, not raise them. My collection just tripled in value

[ThoseBackPages]

its only beginning

#13days

[GC1980]

Originally Posted by mjcollector

Haven't checked mj market in a few months and surprised!! I thought the virus and unemployment issues would lower prices, not raise them. My collection just tripled in value

Same here. I was thinking this would be time to buy a few of the cards I never got around to but prices really went up. We’ve seen this happen before but it was much more focused on those Fleer base cards... this seems to be all his stuff across the board.

[Willikn]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

buy these immediately...

Checked a chunk off of your list. Plus a couple others I like. Cheated on the Flair.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by Willikn

Checked a chunk off of your list. Plus a couple others I like. Cheated on the Flair.

LOVE IT!!!!!!

[mindcycle]

Good lord.. $100 for a 1990 Skybox Jordan in an acrylic case..

I mean, I love that card, it’s super nostalgic for me. But I guess just don’t get this PSA 10 base card trend. It’s like all these dudes rejoin the hobby, pull their boxes of mass produced 90’s base Jordans from their moms attic. Then think. Yeah... I’m gonna rebuy these again entombed in plastic because I’m an adult now..

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by mindcycle

Good lord.. $100 for a 1990 Skybox Jordan in an acrylic case..

I mean, I love that card, it’s super nostalgic for me. But I guess just don’t get this PSA 10 base card trend. It’s like all these dudes rejoin the hobby, pull their boxes of mass produced 90’s base Jordans from their moms attic. Then think. Yeah... I’m gonna rebuy these again entombed in plastic because I’m an adult now..

indeed

[mindcycle]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

indeed

You gotta explain it to me then man. Why is a card with a million copies (literally) worth 100x because some company welded plastic around it?

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by mindcycle

You gotta explain it to me then man. Why is a card with a million copies (literally) worth 100x because some company welded plastic around it?

i think a lot of it has to do with an OCD effect the business has on people.

i dont understand it either. For 98% of my slab collecting days, ive never understood the "10 tax" that folks are willing to pay

[Willikn]

Originally Posted by mindcycle

You gotta explain it to me then man. Why is a card with a million copies (literally) worth 100x because some company welded plastic around it?

I am not trying to justify. Only answer. There are not enough copies of that card in a 10 slab to satisfy the number of people that want one. There may be a million of them. Only 518 in a 10. If you don't care that is good news because raw ones remain cheap.

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[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by mindcycle

Good lord.. $100 for a 1990 Skybox Jordan in an acrylic case..

There are literally a million raw out there and another 500,000 boxes,it's crazy.

[ninjacookies]

There's not enough slabs of psa 10 skybox Jordans because the market price never justified the cost of grading. Of course that's all changing now. Can imagine the look on the PSA graders' faces when their facility reopens and they're suddenly bombarded with hundreds of thousands of junk wax J's.


This is both amazing and hysterical to witness. God bless the hobby tho.

[mindcycle]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

i think a lot of it has to do with an OCD effect the business has on people.

i dont understand it either. For 98% of my slab collecting days, ive never understood the "10 tax" that folks are willing to pay

True that. I like your PSA 9 collection. Still a mint card for a fraction of the price. I have a small collection of scrub PSA 9 Topps Chrome refractor RCs I paid between $1-5 each for. Main reason I started collecting those was it likely cost the submitter at least double that to grade, and it probably sounds ridiculous, but I thought it was funny to own plastic that was valued more than the cards themselves. Nowadays thats just commonplace it seems but with a hefty price tag to go along with it.

[PK Dallas]

I picked up a ‘87 BGS 9 MJ for $369 only a few weeks ago. Wowza

[6celtics33]

This is like 2016 deja vu

[Willikn]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

There's not enough slabs of psa 10 skybox Jordans because the market price never justified the cost of grading. Of course that's all changing now.

I am not endorsing that card. The Hoops would by my pick were I forced to pick a 1990 issue. Those are tougher gems IMO. Not endorsing that card either.

There are 2,800 1990 Fleer in a 10 slab and those turds are doubling up the Skybox. I think we are picking on the wrong 1990 base card. I think the population of that 1990 Fleer dwarfs any Jordan issue. $200 folks paying for that.





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[Willikn]

Originally Posted by 6celtics33

This is like 2016 deja vu

This.

Still sitting on some 91 and 92 Fleer 10s I grabbed after the crash.

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[ninjacookies]

Originally Posted by Willikn

I am not endorsing that card. The Hoops would by my pick were I forced to pick a 1990 issue. Those are tougher gems IMO. Not endorsing that card either.

There are 2,800 1990 Fleer in a 10 slab and those turds are doubling up the Skybox. I think we are picking on the wrong 1990 base card. I think the population of that 1990 Fleer dwarfs any Jordan issue. $200 folks paying for that.





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Again...you have to ask yourself why there are relatively low populations of these cards.


Why would anyone pay to have majority of these cards graded when the cost of grading alone would make it a net loss if they didn't receive a 10? These are junk wax era cards. Same reason why you're not going to find super high populations of Ken Griffey or Joe Montana 1992 base issues.


I applaud anyone making money on this insurgence of funds. But I have to wonder who is actually doing the buying at these current levels for a personal collection. I doubt there's many on this board.

[Willikn]

I am not arguing what you are saying. We agree that 1990 base cards are junk. I am saying only that 2,800 PSA 10s isn't a small number. It is massive for a Jordan card blowing away any other issue he's had. Yet THAT is the one that has realized the biggest bump.

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