eBay Authenticity Guarantee limit now $500

[Shadowsonic2004]

I bought a raw football card about a week after they started the whole thing. It was one of those XRC cards that were redemptions sent in Panini's one touches. Wondered if they'd remove the card from it. Got it back Monday. Good news was they kept it in the case and just put the case in a sleeve with their tamper proof sticker on that. For all those wondering about that kind of stuff. That was my experience.

[pip]

Originally Posted by wood minis

this ought to be a boon to the card grading companies and auction houses. hard to understand why ebay isn't just policing those members that are creating the 'need' for this in the first place.

That would have created too much liability.

[thewild3]

Originally Posted by lauriontj

As soon as myslabs allows raw cards, I’m switching platforms for good.

Agree. eBay is becoming a headache

[maddux31]

Sold a card for a bit under $400 tonight. For what it's worth, the Authenticity Guarantee thing showed up on my listing when it went over $200. Had I known this, I would've sold the card off eBay out of principle.

I know you can't require a seller opt-in for this, because it would totally defeat the purpose of policing unscrupulous sellers, but as a guy who isn't scamming people, I really think there is a massive liability here for sellers that is completely unwarranted.

Why should I have any economic liability if I ship safely and securely, but these jokers ship my card to the buyer in such a way that the card gets damaged. How long until this thing blows up?

[msucollector4]

Originally Posted by maddux31

Sold a card for a bit under $400 tonight. For what it's worth, the Authenticity Guarantee thing showed up on my listing when it went over $200. Had I known this, I would've sold the card off eBay out of principle.

I know you can't require a seller opt-in for this, because it would totally defeat the purpose of policing unscrupulous sellers, but as a guy who isn't scamming people, I really think there is a massive liability here for sellers that is completely unwarranted.

Why should I have any economic liability if I ship safely and securely, but these jokers ship my card to the buyer in such a way that the card gets damaged. How long until this thing blows up?

I think if enough big sellers make a stink it will be scaled back, Ive got to imagine trading cards are one of if not the biggest money makers for eBay

[Silent George]

eBay is about to get 5,000 Wander parallels.

[GrahamMoonlight]

How long until this thing blows up?

As soon as eBay has the nerve to start charging sellers for this idiotic idea...

[auctionjmm]

Originally Posted by maddux31

Sold a card for a bit under $400 tonight. For what it's worth, the Authenticity Guarantee thing showed up on my listing when it went over $200. Had I known this, I would've sold the card off eBay out of principle.

I know you can't require a seller opt-in for this, because it would totally defeat the purpose of policing unscrupulous sellers, but as a guy who isn't scamming people, I really think there is a massive liability here for sellers that is completely unwarranted.

Why should I have any economic liability if I ship safely and securely, but these jokers ship my card to the buyer in such a way that the card gets damaged. How long until this thing blows up?

You don't. Your liability ends when the grading company receives that card and verifies it mint/authentic. It's similar to the Global Shipping Program. Once my card gets to Kentucky I'm done with it. If the card gets lost in Singapore 3 weeks later, eBay eats it, not me.

It also eliminates other potential problems such as your customer not being home to sign for a package, or a package being stolen off the porch or misdelivered. I just had a $350+ item misdelivered and it took weeks to sort out. All of that liability is gone with this program. You know CSG is going to be there to sign for it and once it's there you can sit back and relax. I do think sellers will come around on this IF processing times remain quick. GSP was a great program for me even though I was skeptical at first, and I think this will turn out the same.

[MoreToppsPlease]

In six months everyone will have completely forgotten this thread even existed.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by MoreToppsPlease

In six months everyone will have completely forgotten this thread even existed.

But we’ll still remember you leaving negatives for shipping fees you agreed to.

[MoreToppsPlease]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

But we’ll still remember you leaving negatives for shipping fees you agreed to.

Yes, please do. What’s your eBay id?

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by MoreToppsPlease

Yes, please do. What’s your eBay id?

khalskards_ig. Please bid on my stuff. I’ll be listing more baseball soon.

[DadofTwins]

I get the need for the program. But it should be limited to certain sets, or high dollar, high profile cards that have been known to be faked.

I just sold a 2022 Topps Wander Franco that meets the dollar threshold here and had to get it authenticated. A product that went live YESTERDAY needed to be authenticated because of the value is asinine.

[MoreToppsPlease]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

khalskards_ig. Please bid on my stuff. I’ll be listing more baseball soon.

Thanks but not high-end enough, I get why you charge for shipping.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by MoreToppsPlease

Thanks but not high-end enough, I get why you charge for shipping.

Not surprised you want free handouts. Typical millennial.

[MoreToppsPlease]

Originally Posted by DadofTwins

I get the need for the program. But it should be limited to certain sets, or high dollar, high profile cards that have been known to be faked.

I just sold a 2022 Topps Wander Franco that meets the dollar threshold here and had to get it authenticated. A product that went live YESTERDAY needed to be authenticated because of the value is asinine.

On the other hand, these cards may not be known to be faked until they’re reviewed in the authentication process, further this process will likely deter fakes from being created.

[MoreToppsPlease]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Not surprised you want free handouts. Typical millennial.

I want financially secure sellers who sell high-end items and don’t need to charge shipping. But you need the extra couple of bucks per transaction to get by.

All this tough talk about sellers and shooting the moon in the hobby (quite literally a post every waking hour since you’ve been on this forum) and yet you still aspire to live in the weeds. Sigh.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by MoreToppsPlease

I want financially secure sellers who sell high-end items and don’t need to charge shipping. But you need the extra couple of bucks per transaction to get by.

All this tough talk about sellers and shooting the moon in the hobby (quite literally a post every waking hour since you’ve been on this forum) and yet you still aspire to live in the weeds. Sigh.

Show us the last purchase you made.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by maddux31

I know you can't require a seller opt-in for this, because it would totally defeat the purpose of policing unscrupulous sellers, but as a guy who isn't scamming people, I really think there is a massive liability here for sellers that is completely unwarranted.

The bigger question is why this program isn't "buyer opt-in".

Let me, as the buyer, decide whether or not I want the card I bought to be authenticated by CSG/EBay.

The liability for the seller is in the processing/handling by "CSG" employees prior to official "authentication". Sellers have no idea who these people are and/or if they are capable of authenticating a card without damaging it.

[GrahamMoonlight]

I want financially secure sellers who sell high-end items and don’t need to charge shipping.

Translation: I'm too cheap to pay for shipping. You're why all sellers have to offer "free" shipping in their listings. But you do know that you're paying for shipping, don't you? Whether it's stated or not, the buyer always pays for shipping.

[pewe]

This is fantastic… got to love the starting bid at 7x recent sales, and adding $500 BIN to trigger “authenticity guaranteed” check mark

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2021-Bowman...-127632-2357-0


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[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by DadofTwins

I get the need for the program. But it should be limited to certain sets, or high dollar, high profile cards that have been known to be faked.

I just sold a 2022 Topps Wander Franco that meets the dollar threshold here and had to get it authenticated. A product that went live YESTERDAY needed to be authenticated because of the value is asinine.

It’s not just the fake aspect, but also grade, and maybe even more importantly, to prevent scams.

Even if it’s a 2022 Wander Franco, a buyer could still theoretically claim they got a random base card instead, or a seller could send a random base card. This prevents that, and probably one of the goals here is to cut down on INAD, which would be a mess if either of those two things happened- a he said/she said scenario.

None of that scam stuff applies to my experiences on eBay as a buyer or seller, so I view this AG program as completely unnecessary and annoying in many respects. But I’m sure there are some problems out there it solves.

[smapdi]

Patches and autos are excluded? This is strange to me. Some of the major problems with authenticity in sports cards these days are not cards that people print themselves, but replacing plain swatches with S!CK P@TC#3S and redrawn or fake autos. So in the cases that you'd really want someone to inspect it for you, they won't do it. That's a negative.

I will say that counterfeit cards are a big problem in MTG, Pokemon, etc. Plus with cards being reprinted in different sets all the time, it's easy for a seller to describe the card incorrectly. So that's a positive.

FWIW, my wife bought a pair of sneakers recently and got a notice a couple days ago that they did not pass authenticity inspection. This seems strange because they were brand new, the seller is a sneaker dealer with good FB, and they weren't a fancy, limited drop, just some new AJ1s. I don't know the sneaker market but it seems unlikely they'd be bootlegged. On the other hand, people counterfeit $5 and $10 bills because they are less likely to be closely examined. Her message did not say specifically what the problem was, but her transaction was cancelled.

[DynaEtch]

Originally Posted by smapdi

Patches and autos are excluded? This is strange to me. Some of the major problems with authenticity in sports cards these days are not cards that people print themselves, but replacing plain swatches with S!CK P@TC#3S and redrawn or fake autos. So in the cases that you'd really want someone to inspect it for you, they won't do it. That's a negative.

Just a guess, but maybe patches and autos are excluded because the significant extra leg-work that would be required, and with time constraints and volume it'd wouldnt be feasible. Unless there is some kind of official patch database, not sure how they could even know for sure with patches if it was original, and I cant imagine CSG would be investigating the history of each individual patch card.

Also CSG is under the same company as CGC, and while I dont know much about CSG and if they certify autos (they do grade cards that are auto'd, e.g. pack inserted), Im guessing they might not actually certify autos since CGC doesnt with comics. I much prefer CGC's approach to autos, where they must be witnessed autographs to be slabbed with an SS label- there is no question at all about legitness. Whereas there is always still a question with things like PSA/DNA, Beckett, JSA etc.

[wiper]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Show us the last purchase you made.

*crickets*