The Error Card discussion thread - Page 2

Watchmee · 04-17-2025, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Watchmee

Has anyone seen copies of any MM'94 base cards where on the card back the background around the card number is not black but grayish?

While sorting large lot of MM'94 one Silver Surfer #111 "jumped" at me from the #111 card lineup and as far as i can tell everything else between the normal and the "strange" one is identical...

Later I'll post it on EB and add pics from there for reference

Alex H

Here are some pics from this MM94 Base Set Silver Surfer #111:
Zoom on detail:

Full cards:

DynaEtch · 04-17-2025, 09:14 PM

Interesting indeed. I think it could be a similar thing that happened to both of ours- maybe the black ink was whacky for one printing, and just for that particular area for some reason.

DynaEtch · 04-19-2025, 10:05 AM

Someone posted this a little while back on Reddit…not my card but thought it was an interesting misprint. From 1993 Marvel Masterpieces

What’s odd is the card is not only miscut but miscut in the wrong orientation. The uncut sheet would have somehow had to be sideways compared to cutter…which is hard to picture physically happening. I can’t recall seeing this for other sets before.

The paper loss damage is from unbricking unfortunately. But that doesn’t take away from the interesting aspect of the error.

Watchmee · 04-20-2025, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DynaEtch

Someone posted this a little while back on Reddit…not my card but thought it was an interesting misprint. From 1993 Marvel Masterpieces

What’s odd is the card is not only miscut but miscut in the wrong orientation. The uncut sheet would have somehow had to be sideways compared to cutter…which is hard to picture physically happening. I can’t recall seeing this for other sets before.

The paper loss damage is from unbricking unfortunately. But that doesn’t take away from the interesting aspect of the error.

To send for cutting a large rectangular sheet of paper in the wrong direction requires some effort...

I have the feeling that the ppl at the print shops were wondering sometime "how can I something _funny_" in the print or cut process... maybe work performed on 420?

DynaEtch · 04-20-2025, 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watchmee

To send for cutting a large rectangular sheet of paper in the wrong direction requires some effort...

I have the feeling that the ppl at the print shops were wondering sometime "how can I something _funny_" in the print or cut process... maybe work performed on 420?

Your guess is as good as mine

It doesn’t even make sense such a large sheet could be sideways on the conveyor belt or whatever it was, and for it to still go through. Then it gets past all QC measures…it’s amazing we even end up with errors like this after all that.

Mahomie · 04-20-2025, 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DynaEtch

Someone posted this a little while back on Reddit…not my card but thought it was an interesting misprint. From 1993 Marvel Masterpieces

What’s odd is the card is not only miscut but miscut in the wrong orientation. The uncut sheet would have somehow had to be sideways compared to cutter…which is hard to picture physically happening. I can’t recall seeing this for other sets before.

That is an interesting miscut.

I've been browsing the Marvel card subreddit a bit more these days. It still has a marketplace vibe, but there are some cool cards being posted on there. There was actually a post on there recently that made me want to dig up my old 1996 MM cards and look at them in hand again.

Watchmee · 05-31-2025, 08:54 PM

New misprint case this time from '95 Flair Marvel Annual -- LE Chromium:
where we got two examples of 1/4" vertical misalignment in the printing layers:

bottom print layer w main image is in the expected position
top layer with the reverse "embossing" is the one that's shifted down by 0.25"
back of the cards is normal

DynaEtch · 06-09-2025, 11:27 PM

^^^
On a very similar note to the above, came across 2 offset foil layers from 93MM. First this Serpentina Dyna Etch (this is the second example of this same error on a Serpentina I’ve come across)

The next is a Doom base

Now before someone comes at me saying I just cut off the bottom of a card…alas, it is an error. Measures 2.5”x3.5” but you can also tell immediately by the relative placements of the Doom Foil name compared to the Glenn Fabry text, it’s lower than it should be. Regular card looks like this

This is the second example I’ve come across of this genre error on a 93MM base. There is also this one from before

Watchmee · 06-12-2025, 10:55 AM

One more set with missing gold foil layer possible:

X-Men Fleer Ultra: Wolverine -- Fleer/SkyBox - 1996

Example found is #45 Wolverine & Spider-Man (artwork by Dave Dorman)

DynaEtch · 06-12-2025, 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Watchmee

One more set with missing gold foil layer possible:

X-Men Fleer Ultra: Wolverine -- Fleer/SkyBox - 1996

Example found is #45 Wolverine & Spider-Man (artwork by Dave Dorman)

Cool find!

TeeBee12 · 08-01-2025, 12:53 AM

Surprised no one mentioned “Blue Leg, Grey Arm” from the ‘66 OG run.

This is a case where the correct versions are much rarer than the errors. PSA refuses to acknowledge them. But they are real. And they are rare. So the POP Report Haystack is rendered useless for these two needles. Beckett acknowledges them & I have been stacking them for sport. For years.

Side Notes: Both are Spidey card. And rumors from intended “finish the drawing” alas the “write your own caption” cards, to the corrected versions actually being Canadian versions fixed in that completely separate OPC print run, like the ‘67s differentiate, run amuck. None are substantiated though.

A lot of my purchases did derive from Canada though.

Anyways. Happy hunting & good luck…

DynaEtch · 08-01-2025, 11:03 AM

That’s a good example. In terms of the glossary in the OP, I would call that a CER (corrected error) vs a misprint. Really a variant, that’s what I often call CERs.

For reference, the other variants of the cards in question, with the gray/white leg and arm.

I’m not surprised PSA doesn’t designate it…they aren’t good with designating marvel variations. Pretty sure they don’t distinguish the 1990MU Spidey vs Goblin hologram with upside down back variation, or the 1995 Fleer Ultra X-Men with Sauron facing opposite way on back. Those are pretty basic things making it a separate card that should be distinguished as such…you’d think the supposed card experts over at PSA would understand that, but I guess not.

DynaEtch · 08-02-2025, 01:56 PM

I kinda just walked into this error, pretty interesting.

So bought a 92MM Thing vs Hulk (one of my fav all time marvel cards btw). Something looked a little wonky with the foiling, so took a chance with it.

Indeed, having it hand, something is a bit messed up with Thing’s foil- look at his leg, the foiling just cuts off and there’s a big section of him without foil, although not the easiest to see. A type of error only an error nut like me will notice or care much about, fair to say…but an error and pretty cool. But then I turned it over…not even having looked at the back when buying it.

Now *that* is interesting.

Here’s the regular Thing vs Hulk

The Thing vs Hulk text is yellow, not the usual brown, and it’s not colored over or anything (no one’s doing that anyways with how small and fine that is), but it’s the way it’s printed. Also basically no chance it's due to fading- wouldnt look like that plus rest of the card back isnt faded, having vibrant colors.

So a weird case of me buying a card thinking maybe it’s an error and walking into a different error on the same card. I’m curious if anyone has seen any other 92 battle spectras with yellow text name? Probably a print anomaly but surely affected some others. I checked a lot of Thing vs Hulks, more than this...

And they’re all the same brown text on back, as are all of COMC’s as well as the other 4 battle spectras in the set. So assuming the yellow text will be exceedingly rare. Not that many will care about such variants, but still neat to see another version of this card over 30 years out from the set which I never heard of before. I must be an odd collector …getting more excited over a trivial error like this over any /5 or /10 PMG or whatever in a new marvel set. This is much more fascinating

DynaEtch · 08-02-2025, 04:47 PM

Posted this to not much response in the Baseball section…but thought I’d add it here as it’s error related, even though sports.

Plus an argument could be made this error card transcended baseball into the general pop culture lore.

1989 Fleer Billy Ripken corrected error uncut sheet (with black box ).

I don’t really know anything about this sheet or how rare it is or isn’t, just thought it was cool to pick up. It’s clearly what Fleer used as damage control after realizing the FF mistake- probably printed a bunch of sheets of just this to get it in during the later part of the run.

The actual 89Fleer baseball sheets are normal sheets of sequential cards, and one will have just one Billy Ripken (and it’ll have the actual FF)- as that’s what was originally printed for the set. This above sheet would be the damage control sheet.

04-17-2025, 09:14 PM	#27
DynaEtch Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 9,217	Interesting indeed. I think it could be a similar thing that happened to both of ours- maybe the black ink was whacky for one printing, and just for that particular area for some reason. __________________ ~~~ '90s trading cards === Golden Era ~~~

04-19-2025, 10:05 AM	#28
DynaEtch Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 9,217	The Error Card discussion thread Someone posted this a little while back on Reddit…not my card but thought it was an interesting misprint. From 1993 Marvel Masterpieces What’s odd is the card is not only miscut but miscut in the wrong orientation. The uncut sheet would have somehow had to be sideways compared to cutter…which is hard to picture physically happening. I can’t recall seeing this for other sets before. The paper loss damage is from unbricking unfortunately. But that doesn’t take away from the interesting aspect of the error. __________________ ~~~ '90s trading cards === Golden Era ~~~

05-31-2025, 08:54 PM	#32
Watchmee Member Join Date: Jul 2023 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 95 aghara	New misprint case this time from '95 Flair Marvel Annual -- LE Chromium: where we got two examples of 1/4" vertical misalignment in the printing layers: bottom print layer w main image is in the expected position top layer with the reverse "embossing" is the one that's shifted down by 0.25" back of the cards is normal

06-09-2025, 11:27 PM	#33
DynaEtch Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 9,217	The Error Card discussion thread ^^^ On a very similar note to the above, came across 2 offset foil layers from 93MM. First this Serpentina Dyna Etch (this is the second example of this same error on a Serpentina I’ve come across) The next is a Doom base Now before someone comes at me saying I just cut off the bottom of a card…alas, it is an error. Measures 2.5”x3.5” but you can also tell immediately by the relative placements of the Doom Foil name compared to the Glenn Fabry text, it’s lower than it should be. Regular card looks like this This is the second example I’ve come across of this genre error on a 93MM base. There is also this one from before __________________ ~~~ '90s trading cards === Golden Era ~~~

06-12-2025, 10:55 AM	#34
Watchmee Member Join Date: Jul 2023 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 95 aghara	One more set with missing gold foil layer possible: X-Men Fleer Ultra: Wolverine -- Fleer/SkyBox - 1996 Example found is #45 Wolverine & Spider-Man (artwork by Dave Dorman)

08-01-2025, 12:53 AM	#36
TeeBee12 Member Join Date: Jun 2025 Posts: 285	Surprised no one mentioned “Blue Leg, Grey Arm” from the ‘66 OG run. This is a case where the correct versions are much rarer than the errors. PSA refuses to acknowledge them. But they are real. And they are rare. So the POP Report Haystack is rendered useless for these two needles. Beckett acknowledges them & I have been stacking them for sport. For years. Side Notes: Both are Spidey card. And rumors from intended “finish the drawing” alas the “write your own caption” cards, to the corrected versions actually being Canadian versions fixed in that completely separate OPC print run, like the ‘67s differentiate, run amuck. None are substantiated though. A lot of my purchases did derive from Canada though. Anyways. Happy hunting & good luck… __________________ t “when I say the boy has his own color, I mean the boy has got his own color!” t

08-01-2025, 11:03 AM	#37
DynaEtch Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 9,217	That’s a good example. In terms of the glossary in the OP, I would call that a CER (corrected error) vs a misprint. Really a variant, that’s what I often call CERs. For reference, the other variants of the cards in question, with the gray/white leg and arm. I’m not surprised PSA doesn’t designate it…they aren’t good with designating marvel variations. Pretty sure they don’t distinguish the 1990MU Spidey vs Goblin hologram with upside down back variation, or the 1995 Fleer Ultra X-Men with Sauron facing opposite way on back. Those are pretty basic things making it a separate card that should be distinguished as such…you’d think the supposed card experts over at PSA would understand that, but I guess not. __________________ ~~~ '90s trading cards === Golden Era ~~~

08-02-2025, 01:56 PM	#38
DynaEtch Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 9,217	The Error Card discussion thread I kinda just walked into this error, pretty interesting. So bought a 92MM Thing vs Hulk (one of my fav all time marvel cards btw). Something looked a little wonky with the foiling, so took a chance with it. Indeed, having it hand, something is a bit messed up with Thing’s foil- look at his leg, the foiling just cuts off and there’s a big section of him without foil, although not the easiest to see. A type of error only an error nut like me will notice or care much about, fair to say…but an error and pretty cool. But then I turned it over…not even having looked at the back when buying it. Now that is interesting. Here’s the regular Thing vs Hulk The Thing vs Hulk text is yellow, not the usual brown, and it’s not colored over or anything (no one’s doing that anyways with how small and fine that is), but it’s the way it’s printed. Also basically no chance it's due to fading- wouldnt look like that plus rest of the card back isnt faded, having vibrant colors. So a weird case of me buying a card thinking maybe it’s an error and walking into a different error on the same card. I’m curious if anyone has seen any other 92 battle spectras with yellow text name? Probably a print anomaly but surely affected some others. I checked a lot of Thing vs Hulks, more than this... And they’re all the same brown text on back, as are all of COMC’s as well as the other 4 battle spectras in the set. So assuming the yellow text will be exceedingly rare. Not that many will care about such variants, but still neat to see another version of this card over 30 years out from the set which I never heard of before. I must be an odd collector …getting more excited over a trivial error like this over any /5 or /10 PMG or whatever in a new marvel set. This is much more fascinating __________________ ~~~ '90s trading cards === Golden Era ~~~ Last edited by DynaEtch; 08-03-2025 at 12:30 AM.

08-02-2025, 04:47 PM	#39
DynaEtch Member Join Date: Sep 2016 Posts: 9,217	The Error Card discussion thread Posted this to not much response in the Baseball section…but thought I’d add it here as it’s error related, even though sports. Plus an argument could be made this error card transcended baseball into the general pop culture lore. 1989 Fleer Billy Ripken corrected error uncut sheet (with black box ). I don’t really know anything about this sheet or how rare it is or isn’t, just thought it was cool to pick up. It’s clearly what Fleer used as damage control after realizing the FF mistake- probably printed a bunch of sheets of just this to get it in during the later part of the run. The actual 89Fleer baseball sheets are normal sheets of sequential cards, and one will have just one Billy Ripken (and it’ll have the actual FF)- as that’s what was originally printed for the set. This above sheet would be the damage control sheet. __________________ ~~~ '90s trading cards === Golden Era ~~~ Last edited by DynaEtch; 08-02-2025 at 06:44 PM.