I don’t think buying baseball cards is gambling

[ScooterD]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Breakers enabled the poors to participate in high end products.

The culture transformed the fiscally irresponsible into degenerates who pay higher than they need to in order to get their fix.

If breaking was banned and junkies were only allowed to purchase entire sealed boxes to open, prices would be a lot lower as the demand from the poor masses would decline significantly.

Everyone who buys into a break is a “poor” and a “junkie”?

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by ScooterD

People who pay money for unknown items from defined teams or serial numbers. That’s my best answer. It’s been happening since the 90s, and no one called it gambling.

If it was gambling, breakers would require age verification. They don’t - so it isn’t gambling. It IS “a gamble,” but so it driving a car to the LCS

Get help.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by ScooterD

Everyone who buys into a break is a “poor” and a “junkie”?

For sports breaks? Yes.

[ScooterD]

Originally Posted by Bosoxfan5990

Every response in this thread has just been moving goalposts. I have no additional interest in responding in this specific thread.

I didn’t mean to move goalposts - I honestly just wanted to know whether the courts or the posts are wrong about this topic.

[discodanman45]

If you think you are getting a big hit out of a break, you are a gambler. If you are doing it to have a good time and know you will lose money that is budgeted for, it is not a gamble. Pretty simple.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by ScooterD

Everyone who buys into a break is a “poor” and a “junkie”?

That’s how it all started.

Poor Johns couldn’t afford to buy even a single box of national treasures, so they banded together with 30 other poor Johns to grossly overpay a man with hairy hands in a video stream to open a single box for them with no individual guarantees of any cards from their purchase.

This is opposed to a person buying a box of NT on their own to open for themselves; they are guaranteeing themselves a randomized assortment of cards from the product they are collecting. This is the only fair way for companies to distribute cards that are in high demand. It is randomized, but you are guaranteed something in the box from opening it.

The poors evolved into the degenerate gamblers and now even some people who have money have become degenerates as well, though they have enough financial backing to prevent insolvency.

[boxbuster7]

another useless blowout forum debate

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by ScooterD

I didn’t mean to move goalposts - I honestly just wanted to know whether the courts or the posts are wrong about this topic.

Do you live and die by what the courts say? In December, did you think biological males were fine to play in girls’ high school sports, and now you’ve changed your mind?

[Poorboy]

And while we are at it please explain the term bo-is ?
What is a bois ?lol

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

That’s how it all started.

Poor Johns couldn’t afford to buy even a single box of national treasures, so they banded together with 30 other poor Johns to grossly overpay a man with hairy hands in a video stream to open a single box for them with no individual guarantees of any cards from their purchase.

This is opposed to a person buying a box of NT on their own to open for themselves; they are guaranteeing themselves a randomized assortment of cards from the product they are collecting. This is the only fair way for companies to distribute cards that are in high demand. It is randomized, but you are guaranteed something in the box from opening it.

The poors evolved into the degenerate gamblers and now even some people who have money have become degenerates as well, though they have enough financial backing to prevent insolvency.

Scooter probably thinks it’s not gambling to do the wheel spins at a lot of these degenerate shows.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Scooter probably thinks it’s not gambling to do the wheel spins at a lot of these degenerate shows.

He’s still trying to hit cable cars and snake eyes at the dice game booth.

[Trueblue]

Your answer to this question depends on whether you think "gambling" and "bad financial decision" are synonymous.

[rms13]

Who cares?

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by Poorboy

And while we are at it please explain the term bo-is ?
What is a bois ?lol

Poor hobby participants who will desperately try anything to hit it rich.

You must become familiar with this term in order to participate in these boards.

Please, don’t evolve into a poor bois.

[ThoseBackPages]

wax is gambling

[wilsonsingles]

"This is opposed to a person buying a box of NT on their own to open for themselves; they are guaranteeing themselves a randomized assortment of cards from the product they are collecting. This is the only fair way for companies to distribute cards that are in high demand. It is randomized, but you are guaranteed something in the box from opening it."

It's actually a lot more complicated than this.
The card contents of boxes aren't random. The card companies know exactly what cards are in what boxes and distribute them accordingly to a hierarchy of customers/breakers.
Certain customers and breakers get preferential loaded boxes/cases while others get the less loaded boxes/cases.
First waves of products are usually better than second waves of products.

One could actually argue, that you would be more likely to hit a big hit if you participated in one of the big two or three big breakers breaks.

This is the way, that the card companies have been able to reap even bigger profits.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by Trueblue

Your answer to this question depends on whether you think "gambling" and "bad financial decision" are synonymous.

That’s where the degenerate part fits in.

It’s ok to drink a beer, but don’t be a degenerate alcohol consumer.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

wax is gambling

Wax is the only fair way to randomize highly desired items to the general public.

How you choose to extract those cards from sealed boxes gives you different degrees of gambling, from necessary randomization to grossly overpriced degeneracy.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by wilsonsingles

"This is opposed to a person buying a box of NT on their own to open for themselves; they are guaranteeing themselves a randomized assortment of cards from the product they are collecting. This is the only fair way for companies to distribute cards that are in high demand. It is randomized, but you are guaranteed something in the box from opening it."

It's actually a lot more complicated than this.
The card contents of boxes aren't random. The card companies know exactly what cards are in what boxes and distribute them accordingly to a hierarchy of customers/breakers.
Certain customers and breakers get preferential loaded boxes/cases while others get the less loaded boxes/cases.
First waves of products are usually better than second waves of products.

One could actually argue, that you would be more likely to hit a big hit if you participated in one of the big two or three big breakers breaks.

This is way, that the card companies have been able to reap even bigger profits.

That’s a conspiracy theory only degenerate breakers would believe bro.

[wilsonsingles]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

Wax is the only fair way to randomize highly desired items to the general public.

How you choose to extract those cards from sealed boxes gives you different degrees of gambling, from necessary randomization to grossly overpriced degeneracy.

not truly randomized, otherwise it would almost be fair.

[wilsonsingles]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

That’s a conspiracy theory only degenerate breakers would believe bro.

this has been proven 100%, if you don't believe/understand this you haven't done your research.

[discodanman45]

Originally Posted by Poorboy

And while we are at it please explain the term bo-is ?
What is a bois ?lol

I grew up in the skating world and it has a lot of uses. It started as a use for black masculine lesbians. In the 1990's one of the rappers of Outkast named himself Big Boi. Skating back in the day was a combination of punk and rap music. I used to go to Warp Tour every year. It started as punk/rap and ended as punk/emo. One year I went to Warp Tour and Dr Dre cancelled last minute, and an unknown rapper named Eminem took his place.

Boi became more prominent in the punk/skating world with Avril Lavigne's Sk8er Boi. It is a term that the LGBTQ community uses, but is used by other groups as well.

[wilsonsingles]

So many big hits are held back, provided by redemption or given to certain buyers/breakers, that it skews the random arguement hugely.
This is common knowledge that many choose to ignore.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by wilsonsingles

this has been proven 100%, if you don't believe/understand this you haven't done your research.

It’s a marketing scheme to get you hooked.

[BigL7370]

Originally Posted by Poorboy

And while we are at it please explain the term bo-is ?
What is a bois ?lol

Maybe rooted in being a less than manly way of being a blind follower or a fan of certain things, influencers or a movement.