So weird. Tom Brady has been mentoring Sedeur Sanders for Years.

[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by slyguy

Seems likely... or they would probably take Cam Ward if he's there #6 (definitely not impossible).
Sanders could fall out of the first round pretty easily, depending what happens in FA.
The picture will clear up a lot over the rest of this month.

Pete Carroll obviously knows how to get the most out of Geno.
I also wouldn't rule out the Raiders taking a QB in mid rounds of the draft (Dart, Milroe, Ewers, etc) or signing a young-ish FA quarterback like Mac Jones, Fields, Zappe, etc.

...The Geno trade definitely rules out FA vets like Cousins, ARodg, Russ, Carr? etc for the Raiders, though.

It's Will Howard round 3ish

[kyle1707]

Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

No way, this trade guarantees that they draft Will Howard. Sanders is more of a day 1 starter than a developmental QB. Chip wants Howard.

He should be a developmental qb

[jasonm2121]

I feel like they will grab Jeanty

[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by jasonm2121

I feel like they will grab Jeanty

It would be a great move for them. They now have a starting QB, and now they can use the #1 pick for Jeanty, and a later rd for Geno's long term replacement.

[DMACcollector]

Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

It would be a great move for them. They now have a starting QB, and now they can use the #1 pick for Jeanty, and a later rd for Geno's long term replacement.

I like this plan. I don't exactly know how the rest of the off season will turn out, but at least I know Sanders is not going to Vegas

[slyguy]

Originally Posted by jasonm2121

I feel like they will grab Jeanty

I doubt he goes to Raiders, but he's a legit player.

That talk from Travis Hunter is going to look pretty dumb in 5 or 10 years when Hunter's an average NFL CB (or nickel back?), Shedeur is washed out of the league, and Jeanty is running strong and elite among NFL RBs.

If Jeanty makes it to Dallas #12 pick, you can probably mark that one down.
There are a few teams that could take him sooner.
Jeanty's prob the on RC that I'd want from 2025 (if he gets onto a good team... and if RB cards were worth anything, lol).

[Poorboy]

is seduer maybe good enough to be a reciever?

[rms13]

Originally Posted by Poorboy

is seduer maybe good enough to be a reciever?

Probably not since lack of athleticism the biggest knock against him. Most scouts and "experts" I've listen to have no doubt that he can be a QB in the NFL. He sounds like a guy that should be a late first or second round pick not a top 3 pick like he probably will be in this draft. But it's very weak draft especially at QB. He's still probably a better option on a rookie contract then paying for Rodgers, Wilson, Fields, Cousins. He's probably a better option then Darnold considering how much he's going to get in free agency.

[slyguy]

Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

...Sanders is more of a day 1 starter than a developmental QB...

Shedeur Sanders will crash and burn if he starts immediately for any team in the NFL.
He is likely to fail at the pro level even if he sits and learns on a good team.
Teams know this. He could easily fail to be a first round pick (even in a weak QB year) for that reason.
He was a mid round pick, at best, had he come out of college last year 2024.

[vwnut13]

Originally Posted by slyguy

...but yeah, Sanders is hot garbage... unlikely as first round pick. Wait and see.
Stuff like this only adds to the pressure and expectations that Shedeur cannot meet.
This is Bronny version 2.0, and most NFL teams want no part of it. Sorry.

Shedeur Sanders to the Patriots at Pick #4.

[Hail2TheVictors]

Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

No way, this trade guarantees that they draft Will Howard. Sanders is more of a day 1 starter than a developmental QB. Chip wants Howard.

There isn't a single NFL team that is considering drafting Will Howard with the idea that he will play meaningful time. Not one. So this has zero to do with anything Will Howard related.

And Chip Kelly isn't about to have the influence needed to steer the ship regarding drafting a QB.

[padremurph]

Originally Posted by slyguy

Shedeur Sanders will crash and burn if he starts immediately for any team in the NFL.
He is likely to fail at the pro level even if he sits and learns on a good team.
Teams know this. He could easily fail to be a first round pick (even in a weak QB year) for that reason.
He was a mid round pick, at best, had he come out of college last year 2024.

I’ve been trying to not respond but I can’t let you keep parroting the horrible take about the 2024 draft class. You realize that Daniel’s, Nix, and Penix were all seniors that could have entered the draft in previous years, right? So by your logic, they are all bums for not entering the draft after their third year. Players go back to school to improve their draft stock, that isn’t some new trend or something that only Shedeur did lol.

Ok, back to ignoring.

[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by Hail2TheVictors

There isn't a single NFL team that is considering drafting Will Howard with the idea that he will play meaningful time. Not one. So this has zero to do with anything Will Howard related.

And Chip Kelly isn't about to have the influence needed to steer the ship regarding drafting a QB.

Yeah, you are simply NOT correct. There are a few teams interested in him as a viable developmental starter. Do a bit of investigating and reading. Try again!

[Floridacardguy]

Originally Posted by padremurph

I’ve been trying to not respond but I can’t let you keep parroting the horrible take about the 2024 draft class. You realize that Daniel’s, Nix, and Penix were all seniors that could have entered the draft in previous years, right? So by your logic, they are all bums for not entering the draft after their third year. Players go back to school to improve their draft stock, that isn’t some new trend or something that only Shedeur did lol.

Ok, back to ignoring.

Exactly! Plus they get paid well in college, so no rush to the pros like it used to be. If Ward came out last year, he's a 3-4th rd pick. Instead he went back to college, balled out, and made his value sky rocket to a 1st rd pick in this yr's draft

[Poorboy]

Originally Posted by rms13

Probably not since lack of athleticism the biggest knock against him. Most scouts and "experts" I've listen to have no doubt that he can be a QB in the NFL. He sounds like a guy that should be a late first or second round pick not a top 3 pick like he probably will be in this draft. But it's very weak draft especially at QB. He's still probably a better option on a rookie contract then paying for Rodgers, Wilson, Fields, Cousins. He's probably a better option then Darnold considering how much he's going to get in free agency.

ok thanks for reply

[Hail2TheVictors]

Originally Posted by Floridacardguy

Yeah, you are simply NOT correct. There are a few teams interested in him as a viable developmental starter. Do a bit of investigating and reading. Try again!

Lol. There is no team thinking "he could be our guy" whether development is needed or not.

It sounds like you need to evaluate who you are reading - because anyone suggesting that an NFL team is interested in Howard as a possible/likely NFL starter is on some strong drugs.

[Hail2TheVictors]

Originally Posted by slyguy

Brady also mentored Antonio Brown and offered him his house... doesn't mean miracles happen (unless you call Giselle getting hit on good?).
Tom also had had the thing this month for tampering with Stafford before FA; the guy is smart - but also pretty dumb.

...but yeah, Sanders is hot garbage... unlikely as first round pick. Wait and see.
Stuff like this only adds to the pressure and expectations that Shedeur cannot meet.
This is Bronny version 2.0, and most NFL teams want no part of it. Sorry.

Cam Ward is ok at best. Good athlete, fair QB, ok passer, but many ups and downs in NCAA career and some bad turnovers... far from a sure thing. Probably a project QB at pro level a la Justin Fields. He benefits as the best QB in a very weak 2025 draft year for QBs (why he reversed declaring 2024, when he'd be 5th or 6th rounder).

And try to spell a guy's name right in thread title?

Calling Shedeur Bronny version 2.0 may be the single dumbest comment I've read in 15+ years here. And I want to provide context - there has been a crap ton of really stupid takes over the years.

I was indifferent with Shedeur until actually watching games this last season. The guy is incredibly tough (his OL sucked), and he makes so many tough throws. I'll be shocked if he doesn't go in the first 15 picks, let alone the 1st round.

[slyguy]

Originally Posted by Hail2TheVictors

Calling Shedeur Bronny version 2.0 may be the single dumbest comment I've read in 15+ years here. And I want to provide context - there has been a crap ton of really stupid takes over the years.

I was indifferent with Shedeur until actually watching games this last season. The guy is incredibly tough (his OL sucked), and he makes so many tough throws. I'll be shocked if he doesn't go in the first 15 picks, let alone the 1st round.

Get ready to be doubly shocked then, sir:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...hedeur-sanders

He's not invited to the draft (Ward, Dart, Milroe are), and Sanders is not expected to be a round 1 pick (as I said a month ago).
Most NFL teams know Shedeur is a bust waiting to happen, and they don't want the hoopla surrounding either.

Again, Bronny 2.0 ... famous name, but out of the league pretty quick.
Some team will take a flyer on him, but it'll be sad. He's not ready for the pro game.

[glen87]

https://sports.yahoo.com/article/bad...203904854.html

And after a new report from Sports Illustrated’s Albert Breer, who’s arguably one of the more connected NFL insiders when it comes to front-office decision-making, the hits just keep coming for Sanders.

“I’m having a really hard time finding coaches or scouts who believe Sanders is a first-round talent,” Breer wrote. “… What I keep hearing—and this has nothing to do with anyone having some personal issue with Sanders, or looking for him to fall in the draft so they can draft him—is that he isn’t a great athlete on tape, doesn’t have exceptional arm talent, and too often does things that simply won’t translate to the NFL game.”

[packman80]

Originally Posted by slyguy

Get ready to be doubly shocked then, sir:

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/...hedeur-sanders

He's not invited to the draft (Ward, Dart, Milroe are), and Sanders is not expected to be a round 1 pick (as I said a month ago).
Most NFL teams know Shedeur is a bust waiting to happen, and they don't want the hoopla surrounding either.

Again, Bronny 2.0 ... famous name, but out of the league pretty quick.
Some team will take a flyer on him, but it'll be sad. He's not ready for the pro game.

Sanders a month or two ago already said he was not planning on attending the draft if invited as he was going to either stay in Boulder or go to Dallas with his family. I am guessing this is more of a Deion thing as he feels GB is to small time for the sideshow his family brings.

[Ninotores]

If this wasn't Deion's kid no one would be talking about him at all. I read the op and thought, Brady didn't do much for him. This is a classic bust. Sell his cards asap if you open packs or boxes.

[slyguy]

Originally Posted by Ninotores

If this wasn't Deion's kid no one would be talking about him at all. I read the op and thought, Brady didn't do much for him. This is a classic bust. Sell his cards asap if you open packs or boxes.

Correct.

Shedeur could land on the best NFL team with great coaching and weapons and Travis Hunter on the same team... and Sanders is still a bust. Sorry, but that's clear from his pocket release times in NCAA. He is not even listed on the draft board for many NFL teams at all.

It was a good story for NCAA and CU, but the party's over. Reality will set in very soon.

But hey, a lot of much better college QBs have busted at NFL level also. He's not alone.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by slyguy

Correct.

Shedeur could land on the best NFL team with great coaching and weapons and Travis Hunter on the same team... and Sanders is still a bust. Sorry, but that's clear from his pocket release times in NCAA. He is not even listed on the draft board for many NFL teams at all.

It was a good story for NCAA and CU, but the party's over. Reality will set in very soon.

But hey, a lot of much better college QBs have busted at NFL level also. He's not alone.

You double down on stupid so much it's hilarious at this point

You also clearly are a horrible doctor as you never seem to have patients during the day

The worst

[Siberian13]

Originally Posted by asujbl

You double down on stupid so much it's hilarious at this point

You also clearly are a horrible doctor as you never seem to have patients during the day

The worst

To be fair, his name tells you he’s being deceitful

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by Siberian13

To be fair, his name tells you he’s being deceitful

That’s true…

He never did tell us what kind of medicine he practiced