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Old 05-05-2025, 09:22 PM   #26
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I'm not upset. I'm just pointing out (as are others) that this is a stupid and pointless thread. Does that make you upset?
Mods can delete then….I wouldn’t be offended it’s just a question
Heard a rumor with very little detail thought someone could expand upon it without giving their sources . Sorry it bothered you. If you think it’s stupid and pointless I would like to point out the fact you don’t have to reply. This wasn’t meant to bother you or anyone else

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Old 05-05-2025, 09:39 PM   #27
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So you're in on it and want to know the chatter to stay one step ahead of the feds is what I'm reading
Who said the feds aren’t investigating someone as we speak ? If they had suspects they were looking into we probably wouldn’t know

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Old 05-05-2025, 10:01 PM   #28
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I'm adding all of you to my investigation.
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Old 05-05-2025, 10:11 PM   #29
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I'm adding all of you to my investigation.

I have nothing to hide lol
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Old 05-06-2025, 06:32 AM   #30
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That video is probably all the evidence anyone would need to understand it is in inside job. How does someone leave a small case with 2 million in it laying on the floor by the back of their open booth on a main aisle?

Either A. The card owners are extremely dumb B. Inside job (Not necessarily the owner) C. They have so much money they can afford to be careless with 2 mil.

I've never had 2 million worth of anything I could put in a small case. But if I did and I brought it out in public I'd probably have at least 2 private security guards, which would run about $100 per hour.

It's kind of like when someone's spouse is murdered. Their partner is the main suspect until they can be eliminated.
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Old 05-06-2025, 06:34 AM   #31
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That video is probably all the evidence anyone would need to understand it is in inside job. How does someone leave a small case with 2 million in it laying on the floor by the back of their open booth on a main aisle?

Either A. The card owners are extremely dumb B. Inside job (Not necessarily the owner) C. They have so much money they can afford to be careless with 2 mil.

I've never had 2 million worth of anything I could put in a small case. But if I did and I brought it out in public I'd probably have at least 2 private security guards, which would run about $100 per hour.

It's kind of like when someone's spouse is murdered. Their partner is
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Old 05-06-2025, 07:04 AM   #32
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That video is probably all the evidence anyone would need to understand it is in inside job. How does someone leave a small case with 2 million in it laying on the floor by the back of their open booth on a main aisle?

Either A. The card owners are extremely dumb B. Inside job (Not necessarily the owner) C. They have so much money they can afford to be careless with 2 mil.

I've never had 2 million worth of anything I could put in a small case. But if I did and I brought it out in public I'd probably have at least 2 private security guards, which would run about $100 per hour.

It's kind of like when someone's spouse is murdered. Their partner is the main suspect until they can be eliminated.
Have you ever been to a large card show? This level of security is the norm.
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Old 05-06-2025, 08:07 AM   #33
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That video is probably all the evidence anyone would need to understand it is in inside job. How does someone leave a small case with 2 million in it laying on the floor by the back of their open booth on a main aisle?

Either A. The card owners are extremely dumb B. Inside job (Not necessarily the owner) C. They have so much money they can afford to be careless with 2 mil.

I've never had 2 million worth of anything I could put in a small case. But if I did and I brought it out in public I'd probably have at least 2 private security guards, which would run about $100 per hour.

It's kind of like when someone's spouse is murdered. Their partner is the main suspect until they can be eliminated.
If you think it was an inside job I’m not mad at it . I for one don’t think think so . I don’t personally know the dealer but they are friends of a friend. They are good people not hurting for money. As for their reaction . Let’s just say if it’s an inside job they are amazing actors. Knowing who they are I just don’t see it , but to me if it is they will get caught. We’ve seen clear videos of who these people are . It’s not that easy . If those people are ever identified the owners go to prison.


I believe they had a very false sense of security because the show was closed . That’s when dealers are supposed to be able to safely move their stuff to pack up and go home . Dallas card show failed them by letting people hang around and pretend to be working that weren’t actually employees. Dallas card show staff should have looked at each other and realized they were not staff nor a dealer with a table

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Old 05-06-2025, 08:13 AM   #34
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Heard a rumor with very little detail
This is the problem. Nothing good comes from posting about a rumor you heard with very little detail.
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Old 05-06-2025, 08:17 AM   #35
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C. They have so much money they can afford to be careless with 2 mil.
That theft barely put a dent in that particular dealer's inventory. So perspective is important. Not that Ash is so rich he can be careless with $2 mil in inventory, just that the stolen case was a fraction of what he had and can easily get lost in the shuffle without it being an inside job.
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Old 05-06-2025, 08:19 AM   #36
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I don’t personally know the dealer but they are friends of a friend.
Interesting.....
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Interesting.....
Is it though?

I'm still struggling on who the intended responder to the thread should be. If you had concrete proof as requested why would this archaic forum be the place you provide it?

I can't imagine anything other than speculation, even if somewhat informed, could be expected.
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Old 05-06-2025, 10:27 AM   #38
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Is it though?

I'm still struggling on who the intended responder to the thread should be. If you had concrete proof as requested why would this archaic forum be the place you provide it?

I can't imagine anything other than speculation, even if somewhat informed, could be expected.
I heard a rumor and was basically told there was more detail to this story than was made public . The person indicated there was someone who posted with very strong crediblity but the person who said this to me didn’t want to talk more about it . I was just curious if anyone else had heard the same . I know that sounds weird but as per blowout forums people have to make jokes and try to be rude toward me instead of just not posting because they don’t know what I’m talking about

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Old 05-06-2025, 10:58 AM   #39
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You should have stopped there.
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Old 05-06-2025, 11:04 AM   #40
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You should have stopped there.
Difference is it was from a very credible source. Not somebody that doesn’t know what they’re talking about.

You can stop posting at any time. I don’t know why this bothers you so much . If you don’t like me talking about this. Just go away?

If you knew why I was posting you would know exactly what’s going on
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Old 05-06-2025, 11:11 AM   #41
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Old 05-06-2025, 11:19 AM   #42
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If I told you who it came from. You would know exactly who I’m talking about, and why I believe it, I was just wondering if anybody heard the same thing and could expand upon it
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I heard a rumor and was basically told there was more detail to this story than was made public . The person indicated there was someone who posted with very strong crediblity but the person who said this to me didn’t want to talk more about it . I was just curious if anyone else had heard the same . I know that sounds weird but as per blowout forums people have to make jokes and try to be rude toward me instead of just not posting because they don’t know what I’m talking about



Why not just put this in your first post instead of beating around the bush and finally telling us more details in post 38?


Not slamming you, just a suggestion.


I had assumed the investigation was dead at this point.
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Old 05-06-2025, 11:24 AM   #44
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Please don’t just say inside job without some sort of evidence.
Inside job without some sort of evidence
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If you think it was an inside job I’m not mad at it . I for one don’t think think so . I don’t personally know the dealer but they are friends of a friend. They are good people not hurting for money. As for their reaction . Let’s just say if it’s an inside job they are amazing actors. Knowing who they are I just don’t see it , but to me if it is they will get caught. We’ve seen clear videos of who these people are . It’s not that easy . If those people are ever identified the owners go to prison.


I believe they had a very false sense of security because the show was closed . That’s when dealers are supposed to be able to safely move their stuff to pack up and go home . Dallas card show failed them by letting people hang around and pretend to be working that weren’t actually employees. Dallas card show staff should have looked at each other and realized they were not staff nor a dealer with a table

being an inside job does not neccessarily mean the owners did it or are even aware it was an iside job.

someone working the booth for them, or just helping them out for the weekend could be involved.
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If I told you who it came from. You would know exactly who I’m talking about, and why I believe it, I was just wondering if anybody heard the same thing and could expand upon it
Many people are already talking about who it came from.
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If you knew why I was posting you would know exactly what’s going on
Quit being so evasive. Either tell us what you know (think you know) or shut up.
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Ok gang, this has gone on long enough. I have it on good authority that imac did it.
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Old 05-06-2025, 12:05 PM   #49
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Quit being so evasive. Either tell us what you know (think you know) or shut up.
How much more clear can I be? Fact is I don’t have to tell you anything and again there’s no reason for you to keep posting. You’re trying to talk down to me but nobody is making you participate in this conversation. You could just go away . You obviously don’t have the info im looking for you’re just being a troll

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Quit being so evasive. Either tell us what you know (think you know) or shut up.


Agree.


But his evasiveness has worked as now I am invested. I had forgotten about this.
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