So Lebron won't do a dunk contest....

[xavieronly1]

I don't know about you guys. That between the leg dunk would not get 50 in the dunk contest due to high expectation. And I'm not sure Lebron is a creative dunker who can come up with 4 amazing dunks for 1 night. He is like a kind of guy who would dunk it for 2 points, not going for fancy dunk (aka mcgee off the board or from the freethrow line during the game).

[XARZY]

Originally Posted by asujbl

And Kobe is thankful that no one remembers that dunk contest.

Kobe sucked in that thing. Everyone else just sucked more.

I was there live for that one in Cleveland. Top 3 worst dunk contest of all time without question.

Kobe is just lucky people forget he even did it.

yea but he managed to pull the one memorable dunk that will forever continue to be played back on espn and the history of the Dunk competition's highlight reels. That's enough for anyone including kobe.

[realreodeal]

Originally Posted by IamRalpho

Darren Rovell had something on it, but its common sense. Nike isnt going to come out and say "We dont want Lebron in the contest because it might hurt his brand"

Gimme a break, use common sense for once. You think they'd be happy if he lost to scrubs in the dunk contest? Honestly, answer that. Please. Do you think it would hurt his image?

Dee Brown and Lebron James and your comparison arent the same, Dee Brown as much as I loved him was a borderline NBA player, and again, he was doing the dunk contest when actual stars participated.

Jordan was in numerous dunk contests and did not win them all. Kobe also lost in the dunk contest. Did either of their images go down the tubes?

You are the one with not very much common sense. Don't be so narrow minded.

[xavieronly1]

Originally Posted by asujbl

And Kobe is thankful that no one remembers that dunk contest.

Kobe sucked in that thing. Everyone else just sucked more.

I was there live for that one in Cleveland. Top 3 worst dunk contest of all time without question.

Kobe is just lucky people forget he even did it.

That contest was the worst. NBA even had to cancel the next year dunk contest to think what else they could do.

[xavieronly1]

Originally Posted by XARZY

yea but he managed to pull the one memorable dunk that will forever continue to be played back on espn and the history of the Dunk competition's highlight reels. That's enough for anyone including kobe.

Kobe was not even the first guy who did the between the leg dunk. His between the leg dunk, perhaps, is the weakest out of all dunks. Oh yeah, I don't even remember what other dunk he did.

[IamRalpho]

Originally Posted by realreodeal

Jordan was in numerous dunk contests and did not win them all. Kobe also lost in the dunk contest. Did either of their images go down the tubes?

You are the one with not very much common sense. Don't be so narrow minded.

Twenty years ago Jordan was in the dunk contest, different times. Nice try though.

How am I being narrow minded saying its a possibility yet you are telling me now way? Sounds like you are the narrow minded one?

Who was the last star to do the dunk contest? Blake, and thats it. No Kobe, or Lebron and theres a reason.

Think what you want, but being narrow minded like yourself would only bring up Dee Brown (Which still doesnt go with this debate) and ignore the possibility that his sponsors dont want him losing to Jeremy Evans.

[realreodeal]

Originally Posted by IamRalpho

Twenty years ago Jordan was in the dunk contest, different times. Nice try though.

How am I being narrow minded saying its a possibility yet you are telling me now way? Sounds like you are the narrow minded one?

Who was the last star to do the dunk contest? Blake, and thats it. No Kobe, or Lebron and theres a reason.

Think what you want, but being narrow minded like yourself would only bring up Dee Brown (Which still doesnt go with this debate) and ignore the possibility that his sponsors dont want him losing to Jeremy Evans.

Jordan Lost, Kobe Lost, Dominque Lost, Dwight Howard Lost many Stars have lost. That has nothing to do with losing or hurting any sponsorships.

That is a FACT. Think what you will but the truth remains that Sponsors want their players in these contests, especially if they can use their brand to their advantage, a la Dee Brown and the Reebok Pump. I brought that up because that was the ultimate FREE Brand Marketing they could get.

[xavieronly1]

Originally Posted by realreodeal

Jordan was in numerous dunk contests and did not win them all. Kobe also lost in the dunk contest. Did either of their images go down the tubes?

You are the one with not very much common sense. Don't be so narrow minded.

Just to be fair, Nike was like a startup company back in 1986. If not MJ, they couldn't get over 80% marketing share today on sneakers. I'm sure they would do anything (including paying the fine for Air Jordan 1) to make sure MJ goes to dunk contest.

The same would go for Adidas and Reebok. They would do whatever they can to push their stars to wear new sneakers and show on national TV. That includes Kia too.

Perhaps, today, Nike is already top of the world, there is really nothing else to gain. Then, there is not much of demanding from Nike to push Lebron to do dunk contest.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by realreodeal

Jordan Lost, Kobe Lost, Dominque Lost, Dwight Howard Lost many Stars have lost. That has nothing to do with losing or hurting any sponsorships.

That is a FACT. Think what you will but the truth remains that Sponsors want their players in these contests, especially if they can use their brand to their advantage, ala Dee Brown and the Reebok Pump. I borugh that up because that was the ultimate FREE Brand Marketing they could get.

Just to clarify - since you've said it twice - Kobe has never lost a dunk contest. He's only done it once.

[realreodeal]

Originally Posted by asujbl

Just to clarify - since you've said it twice - Kobe has never lost a dunk contest. He's only done it once.

I apologize for that. Does anyone know if Vince lost any?

[Orangejello727]

Originally Posted by realreodeal

Jordan Lost, Kobe Lost, Dominque Lost, Dwight Howard Lost many Stars have lost. That has nothing to do with losing or hurting any sponsorships.

That is a FACT. Think what you will but the truth remains that Sponsors want their players in these contests, especially if they can use their brand to their advantage, a la Dee Brown and the Reebok Pump. I brought that up because that was the ultimate FREE Brand Marketing they could get.

But but but you cant have Lebron lose. Lebron doesnt lose! He only wins! I mean if he loses in a dunk contest, who would they blame? lol Cant take that chance. You might send the Lebron huggers off the deep end and they might do something that society would regret.

My take: If he cant be the best or noted at #1, he wont attempt it. There is no trying. Its either #1 or not trying it for Lebron.

Thats not hating on lebron, that telling it like it is. He seems like a guy that will only attempt something so as long as he is the best at it. He will not partake in any activities that might leave him sub par.

And VC has only done one dunk contest I think.

[murrke03]

Originally Posted by XARZY

if LeBron wants to be the best in history, then he better make it official, otherwise he will forever go down in history as the great in game dunker who never had the balls to enter a dunk contest. All the great dunkers in history have done the dunk contest, if Lebron doesn't do it, it speaks volumes to how much he cares about what fans want.

Why didn't Kobe ever enter it when he was a good player in the league?

He was a scrub when he was in it.

[murrke03]

Originally Posted by Orangejello727

But but but you cant have Lebron lose. Lebron doesnt lose! He only wins! I mean if he loses in a dunk contest, who would they blame? lol Cant take that chance. You might send the Lebron huggers off the deep end and they might do something that society would regret.

My take: If he cant be the best or noted at #1, he wont attempt it. There is no trying. Its either #1 or not trying it for Lebron.

Thats not hating on lebron, that telling it like it is. He seems like a guy that will only attempt something so as long as he is the best at it. He will not partake in any activities that might leave him sub par.

And VC has only done one dunk contest I think.

Yawn shocking a troll comes in to hate.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by murrke03

Why didn't Kobe ever enter it when he was a good player in the league?

He was a scrub when he was in it.

Good point. He was a rookie when he did it. Ray Allen was in the Slam Dunk that year as well which I bet no one remembers.

Plenty of rookies enter the dunk contest hoping to make a name for themselves.

Kobe was a solid 7 & 2 guy that year. He wasn't a star yet.

[Orangejello727]

Originally Posted by asujbl

Good point. He was a rookie when he did it. Ray Allen was in the Slam Dunk that year as well which I bet no one remembers.

Plenty of rookies enter the dunk contest hoping to make a name for themselves.

Kobe was a solid 7 & 2 guy that year. He wasn't a star yet.

Do player get to choose to be in it or are they invited to participate? Was kobe invited and he declined?

I was under the impression that players are pre selected and invied to participate and not anyone and everyone is welcome to participate.

[murrke03]

Originally Posted by asujbl

Good point. He was a rookie when he did it. Ray Allen was in the Slam Dunk that year as well which I bet no one remembers.

Plenty of rookies enter the dunk contest hoping to make a name for themselves.

Kobe was a solid 7 & 2 guy that year. He wasn't a star yet.

Exactly. Kobe was 'a nobody' when he entered the dunk contest. He wasn't the best player in the league.

It's a stupid comparison.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by Orangejello727

Do player get to choose to be in it or are they invited to participate? Was kobe invited and he declined?

I was under the impression that players are pre selected and invied to participate and not anyone and everyone is welcome to participate.

That I don't know the answer to - but Murrke is right in that comparing LeBron in year 10 is not the same as comparing Kobe in year 1.

Kobe in year 1 was just a HS kid that wanted to make a name for himself. Kobe never did the contest in his "prime"

Same reason Ray Allen did it. No chance he'd do it again.

LeBron should have done it at 19 or 20 years old - not when he's an established MVP.

The whole debate is comical to me.

[forgiven1]

Too much pressure for him!..No confidence!...He's afraid he's gonna choke!

[Orangejello727]

You get invited to the dunk contest. You dont just walk up and say "im doing it"

So for the homer that asked the question why kobe never did it after that one year? Because he wasnt pre selected/invited to the dunk contest after that year!

Big difference between "Declining" to do the contest after being invited vs not being invited to participate and hating a player for it.

If you also look at who does the dunk contest? Youll notice its usually young rookies. THe year after their rookie season, the get invited. In some cases its their rookie year.

[murrke03]

Originally Posted by asujbl

That I don't know the answer to - but Murrke is right in that comparing LeBron in year 10 is not the same as comparing Kobe in year 1.

Kobe in year 1 was just a HS kid that wanted to make a name for himself. Kobe never did the contest in his "prime"

Same reason Ray Allen did it. No chance he'd do it again.

LeBron should have done it at 19 or 20 years old - not when he's an established MVP.

The whole debate is comical to me.

Exactly. Just another thing the haters try to play up when there isn't really an honest comparison.

[murrke03]

Originally Posted by Orangejello727

You get invited to the dunk contest. You dont just walk up and say "im doing it"

So for the homer that asked the question why kobe never did it after that one year? Because he wasnt pre selected/invited to the dunk contest after that year!

Big difference between "Declining" to do the contest after being invited vs not being invited to participate and hating a player for it.

Lol so if lebron said he wanted to do it they could not invite him.

You have no clue what you are talking about.

Players campaign to get in dunk contest.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by Orangejello727

You get invited to the dunk contest. You dont just walk up and say "im doing it"

So for the homer that asked the question why kobe never did it after that one year? Because he wasnt pre selected/invited to the dunk contest after that year!

Big difference between "Declining" to do the contest after being invited vs not being invited to participate and hating a player for it.

If you also look at who does the dunk contest? Youll notice its usually young rookies. THe year after their rookie season, the get invited. In some cases its their rookie year.

Back this up if you're going to say it.

[Orangejello727]

Originally Posted by murrke03

Exactly. Just another thing the haters try to play up when there isn't really an honest comparison.

Whos comparing kobe to lebron in dunking. Stop putting words in peoples mouths. I never said it. When did I say it? Show me where I said kobe dunks better than Lebron?

[murrke03]

Originally Posted by Orangejello727

Whos comparing kobe to lebron in dunking. Stop putting words in peoples mouths. I never said it. When did I say it? Show me where I said kobe dunks better than Lebron?

People said lebron can't be as great as Kobe because he's never done a dunk contest.

Or lebron isn't as good because he's never done a dunk contest.

Or Kobe is cooler because he actually has done s dunk contest.

That has all been said. So sorry I'm not putting words in your mouth. That's what you do. Not me.

And I thought you were ignorining me and done with me? Lol

[xavieronly1]

Originally Posted by realreodeal

I apologize for that. Does anyone know if Vince lost any?

Vince Carter only went to one dunk contest and he won.