Dodgers flipping Andrew Heaney to the Angels!

[tdmonkeys]

Originally Posted by IamRalpho

Heaney is a very good young pitcher, dont let his rough major league start fool people. A top 30 prospect before the year, 23 years old, left handed and signed for another 5-6 years?

That's a very good get for a team like the Angels who produce NOTHING from the farm system

I agree. You'd think he's fallen off a cliff in the past few months.

[Hollenbackcards]

Originally Posted by IamRalpho

Heaney is a very good young pitcher, dont let his rough major league start fool people. A top 30 prospect before the year, 23 years old, left handed and signed for another 5-6 years?

That's a very good get for a team like the Angels who produce NOTHING from the farm system

Mike Trout says hi, and Howie was also from the Angels farm system.

[Thommy]

Originally Posted by IamRalpho

Heaney is a very good young pitcher, dont let his rough major league start fool people. A top 30 prospect before the year, 23 years old, left handed and signed for another 5-6 years?

That's a very good get for a team like the Angels who produce NOTHING from the farm system

[gmsieb]

Originally Posted by Hollenbackcards

Mike Trout says hi, and Howie was also from the Angels farm system.

trout, calhoun, richards, howie, aybar, adenhart, shoemaker, weaver, cron, trumbo, segura and they dont bring much else up, because they sign FA and lose their picks. They have been fine. Drafted harvery and didnt sign him.

Yah they suck

[NeedChapmans]

Get your Alex Yarbrough autos ready for sale this spring!

[IamRalpho]

Originally Posted by Thommy

Yes, and he is about the only thing the last 5 drafts have produced. Him and Richards.

They got lucky on Calhoun, but they draft piss poorly. Trust me

[stormshadow815]

Dumb move, the original move the Dodgers made actually made more sense. Howie is awesome, but 1 year of Howie instead of 5 years of Heaney wont be worth it.

[Thommy]

Originally Posted by IamRalpho

Yes, and he is about the only thing the last 5 drafts have produced. Him and Richards.

They got lucky on Calhoun, but they draft piss poorly. Trust me

And the red sox in the last 5 years have drafted ?????

[IamRalpho]

Kaleb Cowart, Taylor Lindsay, Tyler Keher, Cam Bedroisan (wasnt supposed to be a RP) Chevy Clarke, Ryan Bolden and CJ Cron.

2010 to 2013

You get MAYBE a poor mans 1B and a RP from your first round picks.

[IamRalpho]

Originally Posted by Thommy

And the red sox in the last 5 years have drafted ?????

What do the Red Sox hafta do with this? Why are you defensive?

The Angels continually have one of the lowest rated farm systems/drafts according to the guys who research this stuff. They dont do well in Latin America either.

Its a bad system, and it doesnt produce like other big market teams do

[bbplaya11]

Not a bad move grabbing howie and rollins to patch up those in field holes

[Thommy]

Originally Posted by IamRalpho

What do the Red Sox hafta do with this? Why are you defensive?

The Angels continually have one of the lowest rated farm systems/drafts according to the guys who research this stuff. They dont do well in Latin America either.

Its a bad system, and it doesnt produce like other big market teams do

Yes it does, but they don't keep their prospects. They sign players and trade for them.

[IamRalpho]

2010: 2010 Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim Picks in the MLB June Amateur Draft | Baseball-Reference.com

Kole Calhoun was a great pick, but thats it....him and a RP from the entire draft

2011 draft: 2011 Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim Picks in the MLB June Amateur Draft | Baseball-Reference.com

CJ Cron only one to reach the majors, a decent amount of the picks are out of the system

2012: 2012 Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim Picks in the MLB June Amateur Draft | Baseball-Reference.com

Relievers, not to mention some of them are already out of the system!

Wont count 2013, since its too early but thats a terrible run for the Angels

[IamRalpho]

Red Sox are big into Latin America, the Angels are not and they throw away draft picks like they dont matter.

I stand by my statement, the Angels farm system produces nothing. Yes Trout is the BIGGEST outlier in the entire universe, but when you essentially get nothing from your last 5 drafts and never dabble in international free agents it is scary.

Cant always throw money at the problems and this is a good deal for the Angels by the way

[gmsieb]

Originally Posted by IamRalpho

2010: 2010 Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim Picks in the MLB June Amateur Draft | Baseball-Reference.com

Kole Calhoun was a great pick, but thats it....him and a RP from the entire draft

2011 draft: 2011 Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim Picks in the MLB June Amateur Draft | Baseball-Reference.com

CJ Cron only one to reach the majors, a decent amount of the picks are out of the system

2012: 2012 Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim Picks in the MLB June Amateur Draft | Baseball-Reference.com

Relievers, not to mention some of them are already out of the system!

Wont count 2013, since its too early but thats a terrible run for the Angels

They have given away many picks by signing FA's. That's a big part of it. They have also traded away a few like skaggs and corbin, then got skaggs back. It's better than you think for what they have had to work with. Segura was very good. Drafted harvey, but couldnt sign him.

[ToppsCollector1]

Lots of off season moves for many teams. I like it

[Thommy]

Originally Posted by IamRalpho

2010: 2010 Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim Picks in the MLB June Amateur Draft | Baseball-Reference.com

Kole Calhoun was a great pick, but thats it....him and a RP from the entire draft
So they got an impact MLB player in just a couple of years, and you're complaining
2011 draft: 2011 Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim Picks in the MLB June Amateur Draft | Baseball-Reference.com

CJ Cron only one to reach the majors, a decent amount of the picks are out of the system
A. Untrue B. Cron can be very good
2012: 2012 Los Angeles Angels of Anaheim Picks in the MLB June Amateur Draft | Baseball-Reference.com

Relievers, not to mention some of them are already out of the system!
Every team needs a bullpen, RJ Alvarez is a good arm
Wont count 2013, since its too early but thats a terrible run for the Angels

My commentary

[xbignick]

Originally Posted by Thommy

You're forgetting Crawford. And while Kendrick MIGHT (according to most) be better right now, but it's 5 years of Gordon for 1 of Kendrick. Plus there's the monetary difference. And it's not no doubt. Dee Gordon lead the MLB in SBs and 3Bs, he was an all star last year.

To be fair he moved Gordon for Kendrick PLUS three others, can't undervalue those other guys if we're going to value Heaney like the people want to in this thread.

Chris Hatcher struck out close to ten per nine and walked under two. Austin Barnes is a very solid piece, and Enrique did well in AAA.

[gmsieb]

trout, richards, calhoun, shoemaker, grichuk, segura, skaggs, corbin, cron is a solid group of prospects. 2013 I don't think they had a first round. Think they got hunter green in between 1st-2nd. 2014 was solid, with 2-3 good young arms. Wish they had signed harvey.

[free2131]

This was great:

[Matt Ryan]

Originally Posted by free2131

This was great:

This made me crack up. Atleast Heaney can joke about himself.