Official What I got at the National Thread - Page 2

phinzphan1372 · 07-31-2015, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by 88horsepower

Connivance Store?

Is that a store where they secretly allow you to steal?

CCSportsCards · 07-31-2015, 06:05 PM

I definitely hung around bargain boxes and stuff you don't see in peoples eBay stores. But I did try to work a few large deals with cash in hand only to put 90% of it back when the dealers wouldn't budge. O well.

wagoss122 · 07-31-2015, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by powerinme86

because you are paying for the connivance. Just like why should you pay more at the grocery store then going to the source...because you are paying for the connivance. And some cards you see there may never be on ebay

I find eBay to be very inconvenient

nabzy28 · 07-31-2015, 07:33 PM

I found it was much easier to work out great prices on sealed product, but that was about it last year. I was ready to overpay for stuff I needed for sets. Didn't find a single thing and that's why I'll only go to the show if it's in Cleveland. I'm not paying to stay somewhere when there's a 99% chance I can't even get what I want. I can't even imagine how much money walks out of that show every year if even a small percentage of attendees (as evidenced by some posts) have this same outcome.

Morgoth · 07-31-2015, 08:52 PM

I would suggest collecting both new and vintage so you never have a bad show

DalliLlama11 · 07-31-2015, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Morgoth

I would suggest collecting both new and vintage so you never have a bad show

Ideally I would love to, but being only 23 its hard for me to "appreciate" a lot o the people that the "older crowd" grew up idolizing. Plus, I am on a college budget, so along with having to learn an entirely different market, the prices are pretty crazy compared to most modern stuff.

rauchand · 07-31-2015, 09:35 PM

Mostly vintage sounds like my kind of show. Maybe I'll go next year.

88horsepower · 07-31-2015, 10:25 PM

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Originally Posted by phinzphan1372

Is that a store where they secretly allow you to steal?

Wheezing the juice.

So, was today just more vintage or were there any 90's gems?

OKCThunder35 · 08-01-2015, 10:11 AM

Finally got around to taking pics

My favorites

DalliLlama11 · 08-01-2015, 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by OKCThunder35

Finally got around to taking pics

My favorites

You get the nicknames and virtuoso from the guy that had like the entire sets?

OKCThunder35 · 08-01-2015, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by DalliLlama11

You get the nicknames and virtuoso from the guy that had like the entire sets?

indeed i did..

CCSportsCards · 08-01-2015, 02:40 PM

Did a lot of dumpster diving but got some nicer cards as well

National by CollectorsCornerSportsCards | Photobucket

NoleinJax · 08-01-2015, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by chris43

This is most likely why I'll never attend. Yes, I understand that the dealers have to make up for the cost of the show and overhead. But in all honesty I'm a buyer and I simply do not care about any of that! I mean why should I pay "Dealer A" $500 for a card when I can buy that same card on Ebay for $400?

You shouldn't unless you don't like money or have to have the card right then and there.

NoleinJax · 08-01-2015, 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by deltapi1049

I dont think they sell sports memorabilia at dance/cheer-leading competitions.

Maybe at the national convention, they might.

People like you and the grammar/spelling police sure must have been picked on a lot growing up and this is the only way y'all can get your revenge.

DalliLlama11 · 08-01-2015, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by OKCThunder35

indeed i did..

Nice, thats where I got the Michael Turner. I thought about picking up the Jamaal Charles he had by passed, and hoped he had Roddy White, but it wasn't there :/.

mikeyp · 08-02-2015, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by DalliLlama11

Thats why you shouldnt be setting up if you are using your ebay cards to cover the cost. You can post them on ebay take the hit and still come out ahead. For instance, my guy. Its better for him to sell on Ebay for $80 and get $70 back than it is for him to sell fpr $100 and 50% of that or more go to covering cost (guy had about 30 cards). The idea, at least in my mind is to use the "junk" to try to offset cost. They dont want to take the time to list those on Ebay so you set them up at a show to sell because its easier and will help pay for the trip. This is why people that organize them do better. They have to know there is literally 0 reason to buy in person aside from impatience if they are overpricing. In person is more money and no protection. Or they can get it cheaper on Ebay with protection, its an easy choice. The only things I have grabbed are things I dont see or havent seen online because I refuse to pay $100 or $50 for a card that I can buy for $80 or $40 right in front of their face. Overpricing those cards is just going to make them eat more cost of the trip seeing as more people know this and will not buy at their ridiculous prices. I would think that selling a card for $10 less than their Ebay price is better than not selling it at all, but who knows.

What kind of protection do you need if you are buying in person. You can look at the card and see if anything is wrong with it. The eBay protection is mainly for non-shippers damaged cards etc.

DalliLlama11 · 08-02-2015, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyp

What kind of protection do you need if you are buying in person. You can look at the card and see if anything is wrong with it. The eBay protection is mainly for non-shippers damaged cards etc.

Some people may find out a fake patch, or a fake card, etc. i dont know if you went but there were a lot of kids there. They may not know specifics about a card. Only to find out its fake later. Or even just missing dinges corners, creases etc. not everyone at a show stays the whole time and are rushed. So they dont neccessarily check the card out well enough, not that it applies to me bc for Pc i dont care usually. But that doesnt mean it doesnt happen.

But I was just more or less saying you have it, not that you 100% have to have it or use it. For $20 less on Ebay you get the card and "insurance". The card without insurance shouldnt cost more, it doesnt make sense with literally anything.

brianshaft · 08-02-2015, 10:51 AM

I went in yesterday really WANTING to spend money, prepared to spend into the 4 digits for sure if I found the right stuff. Left very disappointed. Lots of cool memorabilia to see, but the amount of vintage & graded stuff left very little show for me to actually search for cards. I don't collect anything really pre 1975, and I don't like graded cards, never cared for their bulky slabs.

I did find a couple cards I had on my wantlist, and multiple copies of each. Card A routinely sells $400-$425 on ebay, yet the "best" price I could get was $575. The other seller wouldn't budge from $650. Card B routinely sells $250-$275. Again, "best price" was well over that, at $400. Other 2 guys that had the card wanted north of $450. I expect to pay a LITTLE more at an in person show versus ebay, but with these prices, there are a lot of guys who are going to be making the trip home with a lot of inventory. And if you are a seller at a show like this, I really hope you take note that times have changed, and when you ask prices at 1.5x high ebay, that is why the cards in your display cases have dust on them. You might get one sucker, maybe two, but most of the attendees are going to go straight to ebay for comps on multiple hundred dollar cards.
In the end, I spent less than $100, I found ONE guy who had nice 90's football stuff (he was buried in a back corner), and these were the three "big" cards I purchased (pretty sad, I know)...

Seau/125, Jordan 87-88, Sandberg is O-Pee-Chee RC

CCSportsCards · 08-02-2015, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by brianshaft

I went in yesterday really WANTING to spend money, prepared to spend into the 4 digits for sure if I found the right stuff. Left very disappointed. Lots of cool memorabilia to see, but the amount of vintage & graded stuff left very little show for me to actually search for cards. I don't collect anything really pre 1975, and I don't like graded cards, never cared for their bulky slabs.

I did find a couple cards I had on my wantlist, and multiple copies of each. Card A routinely sells $400-$425 on ebay, yet the "best" price I could get was $575. The other seller wouldn't budge from $650. Card B routinely sells $250-$275. Again, "best price" was well over that, at $400. Other 2 guys that had the card wanted north of $450. I expect to pay a LITTLE more at an in person show versus ebay, but with these prices, there are a lot of guys who are going to be making the trip home with a lot of inventory. And if you are a seller at a show like this, I really hope you take note that times have changed, and when you ask prices at 1.5x high ebay, that is why the cards in your display cases have dust on them. You might get one sucker, maybe two, but most of the attendees are going to go straight to ebay for comps on multiple hundred dollar cards.
In the end, I spent less than $100, I found ONE guy who had nice 90's football stuff (he was buried in a back corner), and these were the three "big" cards I purchased (pretty sad, I know)...

I'm with you man, brought 5k to spend at least 5k and only spent about $800

OKCThunder35 · 08-02-2015, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DalliLlama11

Nice, thats where I got the Michael Turner. I thought about picking up the Jamaal Charles he had by passed, and hoped he had Roddy White, but it wasn't there :/.

I didn't even notice he had a Charles

88horsepower · 08-02-2015, 12:46 PM

Man, I'm almost glad I didn't get a chance to go to the Nationsl with all this talk about the show being mostly vintage. Is it the norm for so little post-vintage to be at the National?

Sweetness34 · 08-02-2015, 05:59 PM

I'm with you guys. I went on Thursday and Saturday and brought 5k both days only to spend 200$ total lol!

smackvay · 08-02-2015, 07:31 PM

I went last year to Cleveland and I enjoyed the whole thing I took 10 grand and only spent maybe 1,000. If you are a tight wad and need to account for every penny you spend and are all about making mojo money and can never have a good time, probably not a good idea to go. How ever if you want to have a good time and see stuff that you will probably not get a chance to see again as far as important historical stuff, building vintage sets, or just buying random cards, I would HIGHLY recommend going.

jojostud3 · 08-02-2015, 08:49 PM

Just the big stuff:
Jim Kelly Autographed Replica Helmet (got it signed at the show)

Not football, but still sweet - Ichiro Suzuki Autographed Baseball w/ JSA COA

Joe Montana Framed Autographed 8x10 (matches my Steve Young one)

Display case for my Deion Sanders Autographed Football that I got in person at Joe Haden's softball game

Singles, via trade or purchase:

Gordon via Panini Redemption Trade In
For the Steve Young PC

Best hits from the following boxes:
2012 Gridiron
2012 Absolute
2014 Limited
2014 Contenders
2014 SP Authentic

12/49

and the best hit of the day

Finally, the new centerpiece to my Steve Young PC. Replica SB XIX Trophy

Can't wait for next year!

07-31-2015, 07:33 PM	#29
nabzy28 Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: In a warehouse of common sense Posts: 7,294 nabzy28	I found it was much easier to work out great prices on sealed product, but that was about it last year. I was ready to overpay for stuff I needed for sets. Didn't find a single thing and that's why I'll only go to the show if it's in Cleveland. I'm not paying to stay somewhere when there's a 99% chance I can't even get what I want. I can't even imagine how much money walks out of that show every year if even a small percentage of attendees (as evidenced by some posts) have this same outcome. __________________ Sent from my Danger Hiptop T-Mobile Sidekick in 2002

08-02-2015, 07:31 PM	#48
smackvay Member Join Date: May 2012 Location: west virginia Posts: 11,948	I went last year to Cleveland and I enjoyed the whole thing I took 10 grand and only spent maybe 1,000. If you are a tight wad and need to account for every penny you spend and are all about making mojo money and can never have a good time, probably not a good idea to go. How ever if you want to have a good time and see stuff that you will probably not get a chance to see again as far as important historical stuff, building vintage sets, or just buying random cards, I would HIGHLY recommend going. __________________ SUPERCOLLECTOR LOOKING FOR PAT WHITE CARDS NEED SILVER? HAVE SILVER? PM ME EITHER WAY

08-02-2015, 08:49 PM	#49
jojostud3 Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Ohio Posts: 844 mikester49	Just the big stuff: Jim Kelly Autographed Replica Helmet (got it signed at the show) Not football, but still sweet - Ichiro Suzuki Autographed Baseball w/ JSA COA Joe Montana Framed Autographed 8x10 (matches my Steve Young one) Display case for my Deion Sanders Autographed Football that I got in person at Joe Haden's softball game Singles, via trade or purchase: Gordon via Panini Redemption Trade In For the Steve Young PC Best hits from the following boxes: 2012 Gridiron 2012 Absolute 2014 Limited 2014 Contenders 2014 SP Authentic 12/49 and the best hit of the day Finally, the new centerpiece to my Steve Young PC. Replica SB XIX Trophy Can't wait for next year! __________________ Due to a number of instances where feedback was never left, I will only leave feedback after you leave feedback first. Thanks for understanding

07-31-2015, 06:05 PM	#27
CCSportsCards Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Sioux Falls SD Posts: 3,313 CollectorsCorner	I definitely hung around bargain boxes and stuff you don't see in peoples eBay stores. But I did try to work a few large deals with cash in hand only to put 90% of it back when the dealers wouldn't budge. O well.

07-31-2015, 08:52 PM	#30
Morgoth Member Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 3,924	I would suggest collecting both new and vintage so you never have a bad show

07-31-2015, 09:35 PM	#32
rauchand Banned Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Detroit, Michigan Posts: 4,303	Mostly vintage sounds like my kind of show. Maybe I'll go next year.

08-01-2015, 10:11 AM	#34
OKCThunder35 Banned - PBM Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 2,448	Finally got around to taking pics My favorites

08-01-2015, 02:40 PM	#37
CCSportsCards Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Sioux Falls SD Posts: 3,313 CollectorsCorner	Did a lot of dumpster diving but got some nicer cards as well National by CollectorsCornerSportsCards \| Photobucket

08-02-2015, 10:51 AM	#43
brianshaft Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Starved Rock Country Posts: 2,714	I went in yesterday really WANTING to spend money, prepared to spend into the 4 digits for sure if I found the right stuff. Left very disappointed. Lots of cool memorabilia to see, but the amount of vintage & graded stuff left very little show for me to actually search for cards. I don't collect anything really pre 1975, and I don't like graded cards, never cared for their bulky slabs. I did find a couple cards I had on my wantlist, and multiple copies of each. Card A routinely sells $400-$425 on ebay, yet the "best" price I could get was $575. The other seller wouldn't budge from $650. Card B routinely sells $250-$275. Again, "best price" was well over that, at $400. Other 2 guys that had the card wanted north of $450. I expect to pay a LITTLE more at an in person show versus ebay, but with these prices, there are a lot of guys who are going to be making the trip home with a lot of inventory. And if you are a seller at a show like this, I really hope you take note that times have changed, and when you ask prices at 1.5x high ebay, that is why the cards in your display cases have dust on them. You might get one sucker, maybe two, but most of the attendees are going to go straight to ebay for comps on multiple hundred dollar cards. In the end, I spent less than $100, I found ONE guy who had nice 90's football stuff (he was buried in a back corner), and these were the three "big" cards I purchased (pretty sad, I know)... Seau/125, Jordan 87-88, Sandberg is O-Pee-Chee RC

08-02-2015, 12:46 PM	#46
88horsepower Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Somewhere In Time Posts: 23,857	Man, I'm almost glad I didn't get a chance to go to the Nationsl with all this talk about the show being mostly vintage. Is it the norm for so little post-vintage to be at the National?

08-02-2015, 05:59 PM	#47
Sweetness34 Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,254	I'm with you guys. I went on Thursday and Saturday and brought 5k both days only to spend 200$ total lol!