What is Mcdavid's best rookie card to own? - Page 2

Kards · 12-26-2015, 07:51 PM

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This would be the correct move by UD as the Exquisite cards included in Black Diamond are the real 'chase cards' IMO, their design sets them aside and the Rookie Patch cards are at least 'Event Worn' as opposed to those ridiculous Mfg, patches included in that product!

The exquisite /199 may be the official rookie. Time will tell. I do think the black diamond /99 will hold value. They are indeed real diamonds and /99 which may have them competing with the ice rookie.

MGiuseffi · 01-01-2016, 03:04 PM

In Hockey most player consider the top three True RC to own are The Cup ARP, SPA, and YG. If you are trying to get for the best price, hold off on the Young Guns for a bit. Unless he comes back and scores like Gretzky in his prime, they will likely come diwn a bit.

Melagoo · 01-01-2016, 03:08 PM

This one!

Ra3 · 02-20-2021, 12:35 PM

Apologize for bumping a five year old thread, but figured it might not be worth starting a new thread to ask a related question.

Is the 2015 exquisite rpa (from the cup product) connor mcdavid’s second most-expensive rookie year card? There haven’t been that many verifiable sales that I can find of the other possible competitors to that title. I understand the cup rpa is #1, and I understand that some don’t consider the exquisite a true rpa, but I’m really asking about desirability as measured by market price - is the exquisite 2nd only to the cup?

quincy · 02-20-2021, 01:39 PM

It MIGHT be. High-grade copies of his FWA or FWAP are challenging for that position. And right now...who even knows?

CB Nostalgia · 02-20-2021, 01:45 PM

I personally find most of The Cup RPAs to be very unattractive cards. His Young Guns is a great photo and like said above his FWA is a great looking card too.

Ra3 · 02-20-2021, 02:07 PM

I can totally see young guns having more collectors, and the sp future watch has a big following too, I know...but I was more curious about what the market is saying through highest prices and my impression was that those two aren’t anywhere near the exquisite in price, right? Seems like the population count of both of those are just way too high to be competitive price wise?

Maybe the emblems of endorsement? Black diamond or Ultimate? I just haven’t seen prices for a lot of these...

26CRD · 02-20-2021, 10:51 PM

I would venture to say it's Cup /99 and then Exquisite /97 (from the Cup), followed by UD Ice /99 or Ultimate /99. I realize FWA are high up there as well currently, but there are so few Ultimate and Ice /99 that's it's kind of hard to say. For what it's worth, a BGS 9.5 (17k CAD) and BGS 10 Ice /99 (13k USD) sold within the last 3 months, albeit before the rise in prices within the last month.

Paderborn1907 · 02-21-2021, 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Ra3

Apologize for bumping a five year old thread, but figured it might not be worth starting a new thread to ask a related question.

Is the 2015 exquisite rpa (from the cup product) connor mcdavid’s second most-expensive rookie year card? There haven’t been that many verifiable sales that I can find of the other possible competitors to that title. I understand the cup rpa is #1, and I understand that some don’t consider the exquisite a true rpa, but I’m really asking about desirability as measured by market price - is the exquisite 2nd only to the cup?

Long term I’d always go for a true RPA, but Exquisite is a bit of an exception since it’s a strong brand connected to one of the most iconic RPA’s with LeBron.
So Exquisite will always go for a Premium even as a Rookie Year card.

aether · 02-22-2021, 08:39 AM

the CUP RPA will always become the most expensive one. it will have the BK exquisite effect once the big investors from outside joins the hockey bandwagon. Which is already happening!

boston12 · 02-22-2021, 08:57 AM

Oil are playing well. McDavid outta his mind. An actual playoff run would be fun to see

Agent99 · 02-22-2021, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by RogerGodahell

Hey guys I don't know anything about hockey cards I'm mainly into football. I know about Mcdavid and im looking to buy one of his RC's. Which product and what card is the best one to own based on price, desirability and future value. Thanks in advance for the info.

The 2015 #201 Mcdavid Young guns BGS Pristine 10's are still largely available but still relatively scarce in numbers. Black labels are extremely rare but unaffordable now.

This card will be the most widely recognized rookie card for collectors and the general mass public. Will be iconic and similar to Gretzky, Jordan, Lemieux, Lindros, Griffey Junior, Jeter, Crosby, Ovechkin, Matthews.

BGS POPULATION REPORT:

Pristine 10: 502 (5.5%)
Black Label Pristine 10: 35 (0.3%)
Gem-Mint 9.5: 7060 (77.2%)

Total BGS submissions: 9144 (100%)

PSA POPULATION REPORT:

PSA 10: 1977(68.8%)
PSA 9: 707 (24.6%)

Total PSA submissions: 2873 (100%)

Melagoo · 02-22-2021, 01:50 PM

https://www.cardboardconnection.com/...kie-card-guide

Cardboard Connection has a good McDavid RC overview ...

kellmuff · 02-22-2021, 02:02 PM

40K for his RPA is insane. Imagine spending that on McDavid when you could get a Lebron for that much.

rohara99 · 02-22-2021, 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent99

This card will be the most widely recognized rookie card for collectors and the general mass public. Will be iconic and similar to Gretzky, Jordan, Lemieux, Lindros, Griffey Junior, Jeter, Crosby, Ovechkin, Matthews.

Only if he wins that cup.

Agent99 · 02-22-2021, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by rohara99

Only if he wins that cup.

Already iconic regardless. Bonus if he wins cup(s)

ejs23 · 02-22-2021, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by kellmuff

40K for his RPA is insane. Imagine spending that on McDavid when you could get a Lebron for that much.

On that note, why would anyone spend that on Lebron when you could get a nice Jordan or Gretzky for that price?

k13 · 02-22-2021, 03:02 PM

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On that note, why would anyone spend that on Lebron when you could get a nice Jordan or Gretzky for that price?

If its an Spa/Ultimate Lebron way better/nicer than some overproduced paper like Jordan/Gretzky.

k13 · 02-22-2021, 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent99

The 2015 #201 Mcdavid Young guns BGS Pristine 10's are still largely available but still relatively scarce in numbers. Black labels are extremely rare but unaffordable now.

This card will be the most widely recognized rookie card for collectors and the general mass public. Will be iconic and similar to Gretzky, Jordan, Lemieux, Lindros, Griffey Junior, Jeter, Crosby, Ovechkin, Matthews.

BGS POPULATION REPORT:

Pristine 10: 502 (5.5%)
Black Label Pristine 10: 35 (0.3%)
Gem-Mint 9.5: 7060 (77.2%)

Total BGS submissions: 9144 (100%)

PSA POPULATION REPORT:

PSA 10: 1977(68.8%)
PSA 9: 707 (24.6%)

Total PSA submissions: 2873 (100%)

Most people don't even know who McDavid....

Agent99 · 02-22-2021, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by k13

Most people don't even know who McDavid....

Hey guys I don't know anything about hockey cards I'm mainly into football. I know about Mcdavid and im looking to buy one of his RC's. Which product and what card is the best one to own based on price, desirability and future value. Thanks in advance for the info.

Fair enough but the context of the original question raised was what is Mcdavid's best card to own based on price, desirability and future value.

Ra3 · 02-22-2021, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Agent99

Hey guys I don't know anything about hockey cards I'm mainly into football. I know about Mcdavid and im looking to buy one of his RC's. Which product and what card is the best one to own based on price, desirability and future value. Thanks in advance for the info.

Fair enough but the context of the original question raised was what is Mcdavid's best card to own based on price, desirability and future value.

Yes, this is exactly right with regard to the question in the most recent bump of this thread...more specifically I was asking about the exquisite/97 vs the other options out there without regard for “value” but more looking purely at dollar price as an indicator of desirability.

I do think the traditional cup rpa/99 is awesome, but wanted to look at the other rookie-year options too, and not just RPAs but other 2015 rookie auto/patch options like emblems of endorsement or foundation autos or honorable numbers.

Jb55 · 02-28-2021, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ra3

Yes, this is exactly right with regard to the question in the most recent bump of this thread...more specifically I was asking about the exquisite/97 vs the other options out there without regard for “value” but more looking purely at dollar price as an indicator of desirability.

I do think the traditional cup rpa/99 is awesome, but wanted to look at the other rookie-year options too, and not just RPAs but other 2015 rookie auto/patch options like emblems of endorsement or foundation autos or honorable numbers.

It will be interesting to see how prices of these other cards from The Cup start to do as non hockey buyers come into the market.

Many of those cards like foundations/honorable numbers have generally not been considered rookie cards from my experience. I definitely see more value in Exquisite vs the True RPA /99. They look better too.

Ive picked up a few McDavid cards in the last few weeks, but I feel like I’m chasing the flipper bois right now with McDavid and Matthews. People are flipping them for double by the week! I may wait until the offseason to buy a big one like Exquisite. Or does this become a Mahomes situation where the train just left the station?

Ra3 · 05-19-2022, 07:19 PM

Tonight’s pwcc auction is an interesting opportunity to observe and directly compare where the market sees some of the different mcdavid RCs we discussed awhile back…6 different high grade versions of his 2015 cup/exquisite/FW ending on the same night…

forest · 05-19-2022, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ra3

Tonight’s pwcc auction is an interesting opportunity to observe and directly compare where the market sees some of the different mcdavid RCs we discussed awhile back…6 different high grade versions of his 2015 cup/exquisite/FW ending on the same night…

https://www.pwccmarketplace.com/premier-auction/3502

Just checked out the listings and this one caught my eye. Insane card. I would've subbed Beckett though with subgrades instead of PSA authentic.

JanuaryRains · 05-19-2022, 08:32 PM

Definitely some very nice Ovechkins and McDavids ending in that auction, will be cool to see where prices are at for them.

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02-22-2021, 01:50 PM	#38
Melagoo Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: GTA (Greater Toronto Area) Ontario, Canada Posts: 8,506 Melagoo1 Melagoo	https://www.cardboardconnection.com/...kie-card-guide Cardboard Connection has a good McDavid RC overview ... __________________ Go Leafs! Go Jays! Go Raps! Go Bills!

01-01-2016, 03:04 PM	#27
MGiuseffi Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: Savannah, GA Posts: 379 MGiuseffi1969	In Hockey most player consider the top three True RC to own are The Cup ARP, SPA, and YG. If you are trying to get for the best price, hold off on the Young Guns for a bit. Unless he comes back and scores like Gretzky in his prime, they will likely come diwn a bit.

02-20-2021, 12:35 PM	#29
Ra3 Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 834	Apologize for bumping a five year old thread, but figured it might not be worth starting a new thread to ask a related question. Is the 2015 exquisite rpa (from the cup product) connor mcdavid’s second most-expensive rookie year card? There haven’t been that many verifiable sales that I can find of the other possible competitors to that title. I understand the cup rpa is #1, and I understand that some don’t consider the exquisite a true rpa, but I’m really asking about desirability as measured by market price - is the exquisite 2nd only to the cup?

02-20-2021, 01:39 PM	#30
quincy Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Canadian Tattooine Posts: 604 quincy quincy	It MIGHT be. High-grade copies of his FWA or FWAP are challenging for that position. And right now...who even knows?

02-20-2021, 01:45 PM	#31
CB Nostalgia Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: Toledo, OH Posts: 405 cardboardwholesale myhobbygains	I personally find most of The Cup RPAs to be very unattractive cards. His Young Guns is a great photo and like said above his FWA is a great looking card too.

02-20-2021, 02:07 PM	#32
Ra3 Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 834	I can totally see young guns having more collectors, and the sp future watch has a big following too, I know...but I was more curious about what the market is saying through highest prices and my impression was that those two aren’t anywhere near the exquisite in price, right? Seems like the population count of both of those are just way too high to be competitive price wise? Maybe the emblems of endorsement? Black diamond or Ultimate? I just haven’t seen prices for a lot of these...

02-20-2021, 10:51 PM	#33
26CRD Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Canada Posts: 38	I would venture to say it's Cup /99 and then Exquisite /97 (from the Cup), followed by UD Ice /99 or Ultimate /99. I realize FWA are high up there as well currently, but there are so few Ultimate and Ice /99 that's it's kind of hard to say. For what it's worth, a BGS 9.5 (17k CAD) and BGS 10 Ice /99 (13k USD) sold within the last 3 months, albeit before the rise in prices within the last month.

02-22-2021, 08:39 AM	#35
aether Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Shanghai Posts: 221 Fansmall_us aether	the CUP RPA will always become the most expensive one. it will have the BK exquisite effect once the big investors from outside joins the hockey bandwagon. Which is already happening!

02-22-2021, 08:57 AM	#36
boston12 Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 3,283	Oil are playing well. McDavid outta his mind. An actual playoff run would be fun to see

02-22-2021, 02:02 PM	#39
kellmuff Member Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 1,385	40K for his RPA is insane. Imagine spending that on McDavid when you could get a Lebron for that much.

05-19-2022, 07:19 PM	#48
Ra3 Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 834	Tonight’s pwcc auction is an interesting opportunity to observe and directly compare where the market sees some of the different mcdavid RCs we discussed awhile back…6 different high grade versions of his 2015 cup/exquisite/FW ending on the same night…

05-19-2022, 08:32 PM	#50
JanuaryRains Member Join Date: Aug 2021 Location: Canada Posts: 299	Definitely some very nice Ovechkins and McDavids ending in that auction, will be cool to see where prices are at for them.