NBA Top Shot - High Risk, High Reward? - Page 20

grade · 01-22-2021, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by dengbang

Some members:

"You're just throwing your money away buying this"
"I don't get it."

Also the same members:
"I just made $xxx.xx selling these things"
"How do I get my money?"

Some members.
"not making any money, continue doing the same thing not knowing why they are failing".

Zacy87 · 01-22-2021, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by grade

you post, i answer. simple. I have a lot invested in psa,bgs and cgc. That is why i came to this forum. The grade thread is the same topics over and over. i cannot control the turnaround times. then i seen this topic here on blowout "NBATOPSHOT" a couple weeks ago. I did not start this thread in Oct 2020. I found this here on Blowoutforums. Lucky i did. Made the hobby much more enjoyable.

Again, nobody is asking you questions about your alleged topshot portfolio. Do you not understand that?

You feel the need to talk about it though

rifleman69 · 01-22-2021, 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Zacy87

If you submit to BGS or PSA not knowing what you're getting into with fees and wait times, maybe this hobby isn't for you.

The fact you keep deflecting and bringing up other things that could be perceived as issues in the hobby says a lot as well.

I'm probably on the younger side of members here, I'm 33. I'm very open to a lot of current and future ideas, but Top Shot is not one of them. They don't actually offer anything and seem to use their BETA stage as a way to hold funds and extend wait periods.

You have a clear agenda. Nobody has flat out come onto this board and asked for you to bump, pump or document your "top shot journey", yet you still do it several times daily.

He has to not be the last one holding the bag, and quite honestly I wouldn't want to be in that position either!

grade · 01-22-2021, 11:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Zacy87

Again, nobody is asking you questions about your alleged topshot portfolio. Do you not understand that?

You feel the need to talk about it though

Are you in TOPshot? if not , why read this?

I am posting about what the original thread starter posted. Tried it and posting my real experience. The only regret i have was not trying this when i first seen this thread. This seemed stupid and crazy at first. But after trying a pack and doing more research, it is great.

Zacy87 · 01-22-2021, 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by grade

Are you in TOPshot? if not , why read this?

I am posting about what the original thread starter posted. Tried it and posting my real experience. The only regret i have was not trying this when i first seen this thread. This seemed stupid and crazy at first. But after trying a pack and doing more research, it is great.

I responded to this thread early on calling out Topshot. You kept this thread alive with the feeling that people cared about your so called success

grade · 01-22-2021, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by rifleman69

He has to not be the last one holding the bag, and quite honestly I wouldn't want to be in that position either!

talking about Prizm ? Luka or the next great rookie prizm vs a great HOF player?

You are right , there will be a lot of people holding bags in cardboard.

grade · 01-22-2021, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Zacy87

I responded to this thread early on calling out Topshot. You kept this thread alive with the feeling that people cared about your so called success

calling out all the posters trying to post about something they never tried or understand.

Just making corrections on bad information by people that never even used the platform.

GeechQuest · 01-22-2021, 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by grade

you talking about the stock market? Everything is like that. Just have accept no investment is perfect. There is so much manipulation in investments of any type.

I don't disagree that everything is manipulated to a point. There's just not as much transparency with the manipulation as there is with this. I literally watched guys on the Discord server talk about creating multiple accounts and selling themselves cards at higher and higher prices to rope in suckers. Then I watched it happen. It's all out in the open.

At least I can use data to find market inefficiencies in other avenues and essentially go risk free and not manipulate anybody.

Donruss basketball is a perfect example if I wanted a product to open risk free and had the patience to flip it.

CLCT stock is another example. Buying in around Nat's bid was a no brainer and risk free. Either he cashes you out and you break even or you wait and see if shareholders make his group pay more. The latter happened and if you were smart you made an easy 20%. Utilize knowledge to find a market inefficiency.

It's not the same with Top Shot. There is no skill. There is no market inefficiency to exploit. There is no knowledge. It's all completely pumped and out in the open on the discord server. I can buy anything on the site right now, create another account and buy the same card at higher prices. Reprice and sell to myself. Rinse and repeat. I only need to convince one moron that the sales are legitimate and others will follow suit. It's not at all an organic marketplace. The others have their flaws, but they're not 100% inorganic and manipulated. Top Shot is.

oldgoldy97 · 01-22-2021, 11:21 AM

Welcome back.

Zacy87 · 01-22-2021, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Welcome back.

I feel the same way haha

rifleman69 · 01-22-2021, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by grade

talking about Prizm ? Luka or the next great rookie prizm vs a great HOF player?

You are right , there will be a lot of people holding bags in cardboard.

Yep, down with cardboard, up with gif's! Oh, and money that you can't cash out except for an outrageous fee so TopShot can get it all!

colbycolbycolby · 01-22-2021, 11:25 AM

Why is this even still up? This is a basketball card thread and these aren't basketball cards. Am I missing something? Mods, take this MLM craap down already.

Zacy87 · 01-22-2021, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by colbycolbycolby

Why is this even still up? This is a basketball card thread and these aren't basketball cards. Am I missing something? Mods, take this MLM craap down already.

But the 2020/2021 members need something to keep pumping and "$$$$ INVESTING FIRE EMOJI" in

grade · 01-22-2021, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by GeechQuest

I don't disagree that everything is manipulated to a point. There's just not as much transparency with the manipulation as there is with this. I literally watched guys on the Discord server talk about creating multiple accounts and selling themselves cards at higher and higher prices to rope in suckers. Then I watched it happen. It's all out in the open.

At least I can use data to find market inefficiencies in other avenues and essentially go risk free and not manipulate anybody.

Donruss basketball is a perfect example if I wanted a product to open risk free and had the patience to flip it.

CLCT stock is another example. Buying in around Nat's bid was a no brainer and risk free. Either he cashes you out and you break even or you wait and see if shareholders make his group pay more. The latter happened and if you were smart you made an easy 20%. Utilize knowledge to find a market inefficiency.

It's not the same with Top Shot. There is no skill. There is no market inefficiency to exploit. There is no knowledge. It's all completely pumped and out in the open on the discord server. I can buy anything on the site right now, create another account and buy the same card at higher prices. Reprice and sell to myself. Rinse and repeat. I only need to convince one moron that the sales are legitimate and others will follow suit. It's not at all an organic marketplace. The others have their flaws, but they're not 100% inorganic and manipulated. Top Shot is.

Lets get serious. CLCT was manipulated before the recent buyout. What makes your think the rise in price before the buyout was natural? My opinion on the steady price rise of CLCT was inside information that a group was forming to purchase CLCT with inside positions and power. Nat has great influence on CLCT, what makes you think he did not "leak" information to those closest to him? I would not bring this up , because this is just natural human behavior. Anyone here in the same position as NAT would do the same with their family and friends. This type of human behavior and money happens 1000x daily. Manipulation surrounds us.

NoleinJax · 01-22-2021, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Zacy87

You have an agenda with this pump right?

Just trying to help everyone make 5x+ their investment. Salt of the earth.

rifleman69 · 01-22-2021, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by grade

Lets get serious. CLCT was manipulated before the recent buyout. What makes your think the rise in price before the buyout was natural? My opinion on the steady price rise of CLCT was inside information that a group was forming to purchase CLCT with inside positions and power. Nat has great influence on CLCT, what makes you think he did not "leak" information to those closest to him? I would not bring this up , because this is just natural human behavior. Anyone here in the same position as NAT would do the same with their family and friends. This type of human behavior and money happens 1000x daily.

lol, this is ironic. You can see the pump and dump in the stock market but....

Zacy87 · 01-22-2021, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by NoleinJax

Just trying to help everyone make 5x+ their investment. Salt of the earth.

Oh... why didn't he just say so?

GeechQuest · 01-22-2021, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by grade

Lets get serious. CLCT was manipulated before the recent buyout. What makes your think the rise in price before the buyout was natural? My opinion on the steady price rise of CLCT was inside information that a group was forming to purchase CLCT with inside positions and power. Nat has great influence on CLCT, what makes you think he did not "leak" information to those closest to him? I would not bring this up , because this is just natural human behavior. Anyone here in the same position as NAT would do the same with their family and friends. This type of human behavior and money happens 1000x daily.

I'm talking about once Nat and the takeover bid was announced it was a no brainer to buy in because 2 things would happen:

-You break even at the sale price which was the stock price at the time
-Shareholders don't sell and drive the bid higher

Those were the 2 avenues. It was a risk free proposition from the moment it was announced Nat was buying and the board approved the bid. Using information you have to make a sound financial decision.

Top Shot isn't that. If I could short the thing I'd short it to the Earth's core because it's not a legitimate market and will come crashing down because a lot of the sales are just one person exchanging money with themselves.

grade · 01-22-2021, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by rifleman69

lol, this is ironic. You can see the pump and dump in the stock market but....

This NBAtopshot is more gamble. Period. No historical data, i have no understanding of blockchain,crypto and digital cards. Just luck.

If someone cannot afford the money they put into TopShot, do not do it.

WhacksPacks · 01-22-2021, 11:32 AM

I've sold almost all my 'moments' over the last 48 hours.
The Hype is real. Should've asked for more I guess. Haven't seen any packs available for a few days so I believe I am done.

SupermanBrandon · 01-22-2021, 11:33 AM

So you can't actually cash out? You can't take your money and run whenever you like?

grade · 01-22-2021, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by GeechQuest

I'm talking about once Nat and the takeover bid was announced it was a no brainer to buy in because 2 things would happen:

-You break even at the sale price which was the stock price at the time
-Shareholders don't sell and drive the bid higher

Those were the 2 avenues. It was a risk free proposition from the moment it was announced Nat was buying and the board approved the bid. Using information you have to make a sound financial decision.

Top Shot isn't that. If I could short the thing I'd short it to the Earth's core because it's not a legitimate market and will come crashing down because a lot of the sales are just one person exchanging money with themselves.

Topshot is a gamble i was willing to take. Like in stocks , there are blue chip and penny stocks. TopShot is for the high risk penny stock risk takers.

I was willing to take a small monetary gamble. Even if i lose all my money, the education into the crypto world might payoff in the long run. I opened a coinbase account and started buying crypto because of topshot.

grade · 01-22-2021, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by WhacksPacks

I've sold almost all my 'moments' over the last 48 hours.
The Hype is real. Should've asked for more I guess. Haven't seen any packs available for a few days so I believe I am done.

20 minutes from now. Just be ready.

rifleman69 · 01-22-2021, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by grade

Topshot is a gamble i was willing to take. Like in stocks , there are blue chip and penny stocks. TopShot is for the high risk penny stock risk takers.

Well at least you now admit it.

grade · 01-22-2021, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by rifleman69

Well at least you now admit it.

i mentioned, do not invest money you cannot lose many times.

Anything buying and selling has risk. That should be understood from the beginning of ordering presale wax, slabs or stocks. Everything.

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WhacksPacks Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 5,241 WhacksPacks	I've sold almost all my 'moments' over the last 48 hours. The Hype is real. Should've asked for more I guess. Haven't seen any packs available for a few days so I believe I am done. __________________ Buy what you like. Hold on to what you love.

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colbycolbycolby Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: ATX Posts: 632	Why is this even still up? This is a basketball card thread and these aren't basketball cards. Am I missing something? Mods, take this MLM craap down already.

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SupermanBrandon Banned Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: TN Posts: 15,843	So you can't actually cash out? You can't take your money and run whenever you like?