2022 Topps Chrome Sapphire Baseball

[KhalDrogo]

$765 for the first Julio.

[The_Reverend]

Very nice color match wander. Congrats. It seemed like the wander gold mine had cooled considerably by the end of the season. Will his train come out the station fast or have people moved off him? Nice one box break.

[pewe]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

$765 for the first Julio.

Where do you anticipate they settle?


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[TooManyCards76]

Originally Posted by pewe

Where do you anticipate they settle?


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Due to centering issues, I’d expect $300-$500 within the next few months ($500 for well centered copies), and probably lower by the end of the season if Julio just had a 5 WAR year. It’ll take a .300/.400/.900 30/30 season to keep these prices, plus he’ll be competing with all the new RC’s for customers’ $$$$, Adley, maybe Jordan Walker, Michael Harris II, etc.

[SupermanBrandon]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

$765 for the first Julio.

somebody’s stupid


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[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by pewe

Where do you anticipate they settle?

If the rip rate is very low (less than 20%), I think you probably see an upward trend on raw and graded copies.

If the rip rate is reasonable, $400-500 raw and $1000-1250 PSA 10.

With so many choices these days, interest is definitely getting splintered. Last three raw Logofractor sales are $730, $685, and $640. PSA 9 $730. If you want one, now is the time to buy with Sapphire and Chrome Update hitting the market.

I think the best bet is scooping up the classics at release and waiting on the rest.

[theshowandme]

With no worry about redemptions the hoarders should have no fear holding sealed

[VandyCards]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

If the rip rate is very low (less than 20%), I think you probably see an upward trend on raw and graded copies.

If the rip rate is reasonable, $400-500 raw and $1000-1250 PSA 10.

With so many choices these days, interest is definitely getting splintered. Last three raw Logofractor sales are $730, $685, and $640. PSA 9 $730. If you want one, now is the time to buy with Sapphire and Chrome Update hitting the market.

I think the best bet is scooping up the classics at release and waiting on the rest.

Low rip rates for products like this are a real pain in the neck for player collectors of esoteric players. Leads to a lot of overpaying, unfortunately


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[pewe]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

If the rip rate is very low (less than 20%), I think you probably see an upward trend on raw and graded copies.

If the rip rate is reasonable, $400-500 raw and $1000-1250 PSA 10.

With so many choices these days, interest is definitely getting splintered. Last three raw Logofractor sales are $730, $685, and $640. PSA 9 $730. If you want one, now is the time to buy with Sapphire and Chrome Update hitting the market.

I think the best bet is scooping up the classics at release and waiting on the rest.

Cool - makes sense

Agree re: dilution in product these days


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[gresh87]

Another Julio has already cleared $700 with an hour to go.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by theshowandme

With no worry about redemptions the hoarders should have no fear holding sealed

The hoarders skipped this one, hence the lack of pump. Most are trying to deflate it so they can hoard cheaper.

Unfortunately many will miss the boat on this product.

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

The hoarders skipped this one, hence the lack of pump. Most are trying to deflate it so they can hoard cheaper.

Unfortunately many will miss the boat on this product.

So not pump it up either on the boards or on bidding? Wouldn't that just be demand?

[Bcr]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

The hoarders skipped this one, hence the lack of pump. Most are trying to deflate it so they can hoard cheaper.

Unfortunately many will miss the boat on this product.

There was no boat to miss. The boat sank upon release.

[Bcr]

Originally Posted by VandyCards

Low rip rates for products like this are a real pain in the neck for player collectors of esoteric players. Leads to a lot of overpaying, unfortunately


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I know it's hard, but collectors just have to be patient. Don't give into FOMO on a brand new product.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by Bcr

There was no boat to miss. The boat sank upon release.

But I can’t seem to win any auctions, I’m always the second highest bidder!

[oddstuff]

Originally Posted by VandyCards

Low rip rates for products like this are a real pain in the neck for player collectors of esoteric players. Leads to a lot of overpaying, unfortunately


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Low rip rates/low availability can lead to price manipulation? Only takes a few heavy investors of unopened product to bid up certain key raw singles to give the impression that the wax should be hoarded.

[ThoseBackPages]

guys, give it some time

now, if you are looking for red or that handbag color, or the super, then yea buy immediately

but if you are looking for base or comoom colors, just wait it out

its just a matter of waiting. the product will be there, just give it time

[ThoseBackPages]

remember Star Wars Sapphire?

this past week i won a Leia PSA 10 for $33 at auction. i normally dont even bother with 10 tax, but $33? easy buy

[SupermanBrandon]

No reason to not wait on base Sapphire. They will come out in dozens at a time. They will be cheaper.

[pewe]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

guys, give it some time

now, if you are looking for red or that handbag color, or the super, then yea buy immediately

but if you are looking for base or comoom colors, just wait it out

its just a matter of waiting. the product will be there, just give it time

Originally Posted by SupermanBrandon

No reason to not wait on base Sapphire. They will come out in dozens at a time. They will be cheaper.

You’ll probably be able to tell me “I told you so” in a month… I couldn’t wait and grabbed a couple “doh”


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[hermanotarjeta]

Singles will come down for sure, not sure about the wax, though.

[Pacmeyer]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

remember Star Wars Sapphire?

this past week i won a Leia PSA 10 for $33 at auction. i normally dont even bother with 10 tax, but $33? easy buy

Who could forget (well maybe the pumpers who were holding out for 2k a box).

But there's no direct comparison with TCS even though some tried to sell the idea of the first SWS cards as rookies. FOMO over THE rc to have will get some paying through the nose for both TCS singles and wax.

[hermanotarjeta]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

$765 for the first Julio.

The first auction closed at $950.

[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by Pacmeyer

Who could forget (well maybe the pumpers who were holding out for 2k a box).

But there's no direct comparison with TCS even though some tried to sell the idea of the first SWS cards as rookies. FOMO over THE rc to have will get some paying through the nose for both TCS singles and wax.

FOMO gets pretty much every release lol

point was, just wait on non-low numbered stuff. it will drop.

A&G is like 3 weeks old, and already forgotten lol

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by hermanotarjeta

The first auction closed at $950.

The second got $625.

There’s also a BIN for $600.