2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by Brobocop

Here is how I can see it playing out:

Trump wins: Odds are good he will lose the popular vote by more than he did in 2016. Democrats will call the election a sham and will start clamoring for the electoral college to be done away with. You'll have four more years of political chaos because the Democrats will still control the House and maybe the Senate.

Biden wins: Trump will graciously accept the results of the election once they are certified. His followers, the devout ones, will call the election a sham and say it was rigged, regardless of how good the evidence is. If the Democrats win the Senate and keep the House, you'll have two years of not much being done in terms of their party platform.

2022 should be interesting. You have 12 Democrats and 22 Republicans up for election. If the Democrats win the Senate in 2020, 2022 could provide a chance to win more seats and shore up the Senate. On the other hand, if Biden wins and enough people are unhappy with how he is running things, you could have a potential red wave, similar to what you had in 2018. Should be interesting, but not as interesting as 2020 is shaping up to be.

Either way, most people's lives will be the same regardless of who wins.

Bingo.

Other than seeing a little more in my paychecks and less in tax returns not much changed in my day to day life.

Thinking life begins or ends once a candidate is elected is fretting over nothing.

[ballhawkdawk]

Originally Posted by yanksfan1

Has there even been an election where both sides are so confident that they are going to win? I don't pretend to even have the slightest clue as to what will happen on 11/3. There will be A LOT of people with egg on their face after the election and it could reasonable be either side, will be fascinating to watch

I’m not entirely sure what you mean here. Democrats seem confident, but are still scarred from the emotional trauma of 2016. There seem to be fewer confident Republicans than Democrats, but perhaps more than there were in 2016.

[techtre2003]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Good thing we have training grounds to keep our democracy safe.



A lot less scary than some raving lefty.

That is total BS smear of the Three Percenters. The guy leading the kidnapping plot has multiple videos out about hating Trump and the whole government. He was an anarchist and had Antifa flags in the background of his videos.

[Pearce77]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Bingo.

Other than seeing a little more in my paychecks and less in tax returns not much changed in my day to day life.

Thinking life begins or ends once a candidate is elected is fretting over nothing.

Couldn't agree more. I told my s.o. it doesn't matter who wins we'll still be average people living average lives. Once you realize that it's easier to see the theatrics of it all.

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Bingo.



Other than seeing a little more in my paychecks and less in tax returns not much changed in my day to day life.



Thinking life begins or ends once a candidate is elected is fretting over nothing.

So true.

Most of the things these two clowns (or any presidential candidate) say they'll do aren't even within a president's authority.

Some people will be affected in some ways, but most of us will see insignificant differences at most. It just gives us something to complain about.

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[thenwhatjk]

Originally Posted by techtre2003

That is total BS smear of the Three Percenters. The guy leading the kidnapping plot has multiple videos out about hating Trump and the whole government. He was an anarchist and had Antifa flags in the background of his videos.

Wtf is an antifa flag lol

[Jopeal]

The World Order That Donald Trump Revealed

https://www.theatlantic.com/internat...policy/616773/

[techtre2003]

Originally Posted by thenwhatjk

Wtf is an antifa flag lol

Here's one example. There are several different variations. Google Antifa flag and look at the images if you want more.

[gopherfan]

Originally Posted by irv

I expected replies like this, no surprise at all, but can you please tell me what this "Q" stuff is all about?

It's too bad you guys can't see what is happening right before your eyes. If you don't think there is a global agenda going on, you are sadly mistaken.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfhGIbjqer4

"Canada's acting PM with George Soros discussing the plan for a new world order & working with China to accomplish that"
https://twitter.com/MaydayMatrix/sta...47851271483395

It's not that they can't see it, it's that they are in agreement with it.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by techtre2003

That is total BS smear of the Three Percenters. The guy leading the kidnapping plot has multiple videos out about hating Trump and the whole government. He was an anarchist and had Antifa flags in the background of his videos.

Sure.

But post those videos so we can discuss.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by gopherfan

It's not that they can't see it, it's that they are in agreement with it.

If the Chinese felt the urge to go to some riverboat casino in the UP then I guarantee said casino would be putting dim sum on the menu. Because money is money regardless who it’s coming from.

[babyfaceposey]

Originally Posted by Brobocop

Is that story really swaying people? Honestly, I think Trump needs the debate more than Biden. It's funny how Trump was saying that Biden wouldn't be able to even attend a debate. He even said he wanted more debates. Now he's ducked one and may duck another. Funny how he's all bluster but when push came to shove, he kind of fell back. I don't think anything the debate commission put in place last week was worth backing out. The muting of the mics also, not something worth backing out for.

Media is pretty much ignoring the Hunter story. Hidin Biden was taking kick backs from his sons deals. Used his influence as VP to fatten his pockets and his famlies. The Debate Commision not only changed turning off the mics, but removed foreign policy questions. Obviously this is to protect Hiden Biden from his and Hunters corruption.

[techtre2003]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

Sure.

But post those videos so we can discuss.

https://www.wilx.com/2020/10/09/susp...l-media-posts/


Here's the guy I'm talking about. He's got more videos out there.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by babyfaceposey

Media is pretty much ignoring the Hunter story. Hidin Biden was taking kick backs from his sons deals. Used his influence as VP to fatten his pockets and his famlies. The Debate Commision not only changed turning off the mics, but remoted foreign policy questions. Obviously this is to protect Hiden Biden from his and Hunters corruption.

The real media isn’t ignoring it. You know, whichever radical rag it is that you subscribe to.


Side question, since I’m not supposed to post separately even though others do, how many people fit in the average right wing radical militia camp?

[yanksfan1]

Originally Posted by oldgoldy97

2016.

I fully expect Trump to win. It won’t be a landslide, probably somewhere along the results of last time with him losing the popular vote but getting more electoral. Other than 2020, it wasn’t a bad previous four years.

I would respectfully disagree with this. Dems 100% thought they had it in the bag but even as polls were just closing Trump aides were telling reporters that they thought they would lose. How many GOP pols up for re-election were telling voters that even if they were voting for Hillary that they should split their tickets to ensure a check on a hypothetical President Clinton? A lot from what I remember

[techtre2003]

The real media isn’t ignoring it. You know, whichever radical rag it is that you subscribe to.

The "real media" that ran with a Russian sourced fake dossier and stories about Putin having a pee tape of Trump for 3 years?

[Locoduck]

Originally Posted by cnewby

damn, internet won already. and its only 8am. you are amazing.

Thanks!! Im behind your 12k posts though internet champ......

[mattglet]

Originally Posted by yanksfan1

I would respectfully disagree with this. Dems 100% thought they had it in the bag but even as polls were just closing Trump aides were telling reporters that they thought they would lose. How many GOP pols up for re-election were telling voters that even if they were voting for Hillary that they should split their tickets to ensure a check on a hypothetical President Clinton? A lot from what I remember

Even Trump didn't think he was going to win. Melania was supposedly crying (sad, not happy) about it because it wasn't "supposed" to happen.

[gopherfan]

Originally Posted by Boo

Guess you don't have to worry about going to any WS games being in MN.

If (Big if) the Twins ever make it to the World Series again, they will likely have to play elsewhere anyways. The Series is taking place later and later in the year, and it's just too cold and snowy in MN in the fall.

[oldgoldy97]

Originally Posted by techtre2003

https://www.wilx.com/2020/10/09/susp...l-media-posts/


Here's the guy I'm talking about. He's got more videos out there.

DescriptionThe Three Percenters, also styled 3 Percenters, 3%ers and III%ers, are an American and Canadian far-right militia movement and paramilitary group. The group advocates gun ownership rights and resistance to the U.S. federal government's involvement in local affairs.

How is it a “smear”?

Do you believe in what they stand for?

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by mattglet

Even Trump didn't think he was going to win. Melania was supposedly crying (sad, not happy) about it because it wasn't "supposed" to happen.

The strange thing about the crying; there are around 70,000 videos and 500k members of a group called #WalkAway where since the 2016 election, these people all have decided to give their testimonials of how they're leaving the democratic party.

I can't say I've watched all 70,000 videos but I can say the ones I have watched all have the exact same story. After the election, they cried because Hillary didn't win. Then their friends started to attack them on social media for asking questions about things they didn't understand and then they registered Republican. All the crying on Wednesday the 9th; so strange to me.

Does anyone know of a similar group (I guess Lincoln project is it; but they still profess to be conservative, which makes no sense) where Republicans leave the party and cross over to Dems?

[yanksfan1]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

The strange thing about the crying; there are around 70,000 videos and 500k members of a group called #WalkAway where since the 2016 election, these people all have decided to give their testimonials of how they're leaving the democratic party.

I can't say I've watched all 70,000 videos but I can say the ones I have watched all have the exact same story. After the election, they cried because Hillary didn't win. Then their friends started to attack them on social media for asking questions about things they didn't understand and then they registered Republican. All the crying on Wednesday the 9th; so strange to me.

Does anyone know of a similar group (I guess Lincoln project is it; but they still profess to be conservative, which makes no sense) where Republicans leave the party and cross over to Dems?

Republican Voters Against Trump puts out a lot of videos but I don't know if it's on the scale of what you're referring to

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by yanksfan1

Republican Voters Against Trump puts out a lot of videos but I don't know if it's on the scale of what you're referring to

But they're still Republicans. They're just NeverTrump.

These are people who quit left for good (so they say). Is there any kind of active campaign to draw voters (not votes) from the right?

[techtre2003]

DescriptionThe Three Percenters, also styled 3 Percenters, 3%ers and III%ers, are an American and Canadian far-right militia movement and paramilitary group. The group advocates gun ownership rights and resistance to the U.S. federal government's involvement in local affairs.

How is it a “smear”?

Do you believe in what they stand for?

The Three Percenters - Original’ is a national organization made up of patriotic citizens who love their country, their freedoms, and their liberty. We are committed to standing against and exposing corruption and injustice.
​
First and foremost, we are NOT racists, NOR are we white supremacists. This organization is made up of patriots of all races, colors, creeds, religions, background, ethnicities, orientations, you name it. There have been news articles spun up in the past that portray people claiming they are a three percenter and have committed horrific acts of violence. We have denounced each of these people and their actions on our blog. In all of these cases these people were neither a part of our organization, nor hold the same views as we do. We invite ALL people to join us. Anyone who claims we are white supremacists or racists speaks out of pure ignorance. Patriotism is color blind.

We are NOT a militia. However, we do have meetings on local levels. These meetings are to help members network together and to learn from each other. Being a Three Percenter is more of a way of life rather than a club to join. As such, there are no membership fees or dues and we will not charge people to participate in a movement that defends civil liberties. However, some events may be held at facilities that require admission. This can be paid individually, as a group, or through the legal means of fundraising. Operational costs (Website hosting, forum, domains, store, etc) are paid for privately by the National Leader with aid from proceeds from the online store that he maintains. Mostly, we are an “open source community” meaning, we help each other and try not to rely on third parties or institutions that cost money for our operations. We consist exclusively of volunteers and no member at any level is on any payroll provided by our organization.

We are NOT anti-government. In fact, we are very pro-government, so long as the government abides by the Constitution, doesn't overstep its bounds, and remains “for the people and by the people”. Our goal is to utilize the failsafes put in place by our founders to rein in an overreaching government and push back against tyranny. We are working to preserve the intent of our government as designed. We do not intend to implement our own government. There is often a misconception that we are wanting to overthrow the government. This is simply not true and a false rumor to try and paint our movement as anti-government.

We do not seek to incite a revolution. However, we will defend ourselves when necessary. We are not here to create violence. Violence should always be a last resort and even then should only be defensive in nature.


This is from the actual organization. It's a smear because the video you posted frames it like it was the 3 Percenters behind the whole kidnapping plot. Do I believe in what they stand for? Absolutely. I've got a college buddy who is a 3 Percenter. I only see him a couple times a year and I actually just found out last year he was a member. He's not some crazy guy with rooms full of guns and flags and he talks politics less than I do. I was visiting him one time and they had a small group get together I went to with him. It was about 10 guys out in the woods drinking a few beers, talking about guns and hunting, and popping off a LOT of ammo. They said they sometimes do "drills" with paintball guns. Despite the media trying to paint any group of right-leaning gun loving Americans as white supremacist groups, that's not what they are.

[ucLAkers]

Originally Posted by Boo

It's funny to me that Dodger fans have to travel 1,400 miles to watch their team in the WS because of their scared governor.

Great post, thanks for sharing....