Target Online Sales Thread

[daktmacfan]

Originally Posted by cjmccreary

They kind of do this already. More than one order per drop, per account/red card, all will be cancelled but the first one. Regardless if you got less than your limit in the first order.


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Yes but can order on the next drop. In my scenario keep those that already ordered from being able to initially order the same product in future drops.

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[wxguy44]

Originally Posted by daktmacfan

Yes but can order on the next drop. In my scenario keep those that already ordered from being able to initially order the same product in future drops.

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nope, don't like that

[boxbuster7]

I checked my normal target a month ago and they still didn't have sports cards. Had pokemon and games like that. Hoping they bring them back sometime.

[triden3012]

Originally Posted by boxbuster7

I checked my normal target a month ago and they still didn't have sports cards. Had pokemon and games like that. Hoping they bring them back sometime.

My local Target had some Diamond Kings blasters... must have been sitting somewhere in the back of the store or something... first time I have seen either baseball, football or basketball.

[Hoopscardz83]

Guess bots are still an issue. I haven't seen too many posts like this. But obviously they have more than the credit and debit red card. Never saw a number of how much dropped.

Week 1 20k Up for 10 minutes
Week 2 20k Up for 8 minutes
Week 3 17k Up for 3 minutes
Week 4 ? Up for a shade over a minute.

What's Targets next step?

https://twitter.com/Koi_AIO/status/1...903526401?s=19

[daktmacfan]

Originally Posted by wxguy44

nope, don't like that

You don't like more folks having access to product @ MSRP?? It's pretty dumb how everyone thinks they're a dealer. Folks being able to acquire tons of retail and immediately flip for crazy multiples is dumb and will eventually kill the hobby.

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[Cardboard Dawg]

Originally Posted by daktmacfan

You don't like more folks having access to product @ MSRP?? It's pretty dumb how everyone thinks they're a dealer. Folks being able to acquire tons of retail and immediately flip for crazy multiples is dumb and will eventually kill the hobby.

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I imagine my post history reflects this sentiment a bunch but totally agree. And as a younger guy I absolutely hate my generation because everyone is trying to "hustle" and find all these slimeball ways to make money while doing minimal work. I hear a job requires effort these days, but also hear the pay is quite well since no one wants to put forth any effort anymore and would like to "work from home"

[Hoopscardz83]

Originally Posted by Cardboard Dawg

I imagine my post history reflects this sentiment a bunch but totally agree. And as a younger guy I absolutely hate my generation because everyone is trying to "hustle" and find all these slimeball ways to make money while doing minimal work. I hear a job requires effort these days, but also hear the pay is quite well since no one wants to put forth any effort anymore and would like to "work from home"

Agree to both of you to an extent. The hobby has brought in a lot of slime, but they're here to stay until things change. I think most agree we want to collect and make money. But we got this new blood that is all about flipping and investing. They'll do anything for product.

So many teens getting into bots, a lot of silver spoon kids I mean getting funds to get more money. Rich get richer.

[banosd]

It's a race to get to the products wherever they are put

[Cardboard Dawg]

Originally Posted by Hoopscardz83

Agree to both of you to an extent. The hobby has brought in a lot of slime, but they're here to stay until things change. I think most agree we want to collect and make money. But we got this new blood that is all about flipping and investing. They'll do anything for product.

So many teens getting into bots, a lot of silver spoon kids I mean getting funds to get more money. Rich get richer.

Seems to be the case. I want to collect but have zero interest in making money... it's a (the) hobby after all. There's some times where I may hope to break even on a box but most of the time I'm not. I'll sell cards on eBay, sure, but it's more about getting them out of my house because they don't fit my PC and I can roll those funds into some other single or box that I'd want to purchase.

I'm interested to see how the months ahead go for sealed wax. Arbitrage is a thing. You can't just run a bot and expect to become a millionaire by flipping retail wax. There's pretty razor thin profit margins already except for Prizm, Select and a small handful of other product. When will Panini raise their prices and get their piece of the pie? They aren't oblivious to what's going on and can use eBay too. You already saw PSA raise their grading prices; say goodbye to sending in your $1 base card, getting a 10 and flipping it for a 500-1000% return.

[Hoopscardz83]

Originally Posted by Cardboard Dawg

Seems to be the case. I want to collect but have zero interest in making money... it's a (the) hobby after all. There's some times where I may hope to break even on a box but most of the time I'm not. I'll sell cards on eBay, sure, but it's more about getting them out of my house because they don't fit my PC and I can roll those funds into some other single or box that I'd want to purchase.

I'm interested to see how the months ahead go for sealed wax. Arbitrage is a thing. You can't just run a bot and expect to become a millionaire by flipping retail wax. There's pretty razor thin profit margins already except for Prizm, Select and a small handful of other product. When will Panini raise their prices and get their piece of the pie? They aren't oblivious to what's going on and can use eBay too. You already saw PSA raise their grading prices; say goodbye to sending in your $1 base card, getting a 10 and flipping it for a 500-1000% return.

Agree with the profit margins. Select Football and Prizm basketball for sure is the recent top items. Even those 2 aren't crazy profits like before. Maybe long-term, but either resell suffered because of products being printed or most high end retail being handed over to bots from walmart and Target. Prizm draft Cellos selling for $18-$20. Nice $2 profit.

Baseball has zero reselling value, chrome likely the only one. Bowman was printed heavily killing reselling profit. Also topps jacking up the price.

Oh yeah, the PSA thing is hurting flipping boxes for people too.

[BigRhino]

Originally Posted by Cardboard Dawg

Seems to be the case. I want to collect but have zero interest in making money... it's a (the) hobby after all. There's some times where I may hope to break even on a box but most of the time I'm not. I'll sell cards on eBay, sure, but it's more about getting them out of my house because they don't fit my PC and I can roll those funds into some other single or box that I'd want to purchase.

I'm interested to see how the months ahead go for sealed wax. Arbitrage is a thing. You can't just run a bot and expect to become a millionaire by flipping retail wax. There's pretty razor thin profit margins already except for Prizm, Select and a small handful of other product. When will Panini raise their prices and get their piece of the pie? They aren't oblivious to what's going on and can use eBay too. You already saw PSA raise their grading prices; say goodbye to sending in your $1 base card, getting a 10 and flipping it for a 500-1000% return.

"When will Panini raise their prices and get their piece of the pie?"

Lol its a few years now that they have been disregarding their own msrp prices on their own website listings

[bigjbasketball]

Originally Posted by Hoopscardz83

Agree with the profit margins. Select Football and Prizm basketball for sure is the recent top items. Even those 2 aren't crazy profits like before. Maybe long-term, but either resell suffered because of products being printed or most high end retail being handed over to bots from walmart and Target. Prizm draft Cellos selling for $18-$20. Nice $2 profit.

Baseball has zero reselling value, chrome likely the only one. Bowman was printed heavily killing reselling profit. Also topps jacking up the price.

Oh yeah, the PSA thing is hurting flipping boxes for people too.

Overprinting and no affordable grading are the two biggest factors to reduced resale prices on retail wax. I think Panini themselves said they increased retail wax production by like 4x this year or something crazy like that. I opened about 25 Prizm blasters in 19-20 and I hit 2 green pulsars. I didn’t open as many blasters personally for 20-21 but I’ve also seen way more get busted and I have yet to see one green pulsar pulled, and I probably watched at least 3 or 4 cases worth opened on various YouTube breaks. There must be one green pulsar in like 4 or 5 cases. So when everyone that can get their hands on it just buys as much as they are able to, with the sole purpose of flipping, they are going to undercut each other and prices fall.

And the grading thing obviously plays a huge part too. Not only is there no cheap option with PSA, but most of the graded cards that come out of retail (lots of base) are not selling nearly as well as they had been. That means people can’t bust a bunch of retail, send in a bunch of base for $10 per card, and then sell those cards for $100+ or more.

[Hoopscardz83]

Originally Posted by bigjbasketball

Overprinting and no affordable grading are the two biggest factors to reduced resale prices on retail wax. I think Panini themselves said they increased retail wax production by like 4x this year or something crazy like that. I opened about 25 Prizm blasters in 19-20 and I hit 2 green pulsars. I didn’t open as many blasters personally for 20-21 but I’ve also seen way more get busted and I have yet to see one green pulsar pulled, and I probably watched at least 3 or 4 cases worth opened on various YouTube breaks. There must be one green pulsar in like 4 or 5 cases. So when everyone that can get their hands on it just buys as much as they are able to, with the sole purpose of flipping, they are going to undercut each other and prices fall.

And the grading thing obviously plays a huge part too. Not only is there no cheap option with PSA, but most of the graded cards that come out of retail (lots of base) are not selling nearly as well as they had been. That means people can’t bust a bunch of retail, send in a bunch of base for $10 per card, and then sell those cards for $100+ or more.

Exactly, well put. I still think the retail flippers will be done by next year because of production ramping up and PSA issues continuing. Maybe all chrome will be still worth a flip for them. The margins unclear. But Hoops, Donruss might be printed even more.

[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by Cardboard Dawg

Seems to be the case. I want to collect but have zero interest in making money... it's a (the) hobby after all. There's some times where I may hope to break even on a box but most of the time I'm not. I'll sell cards on eBay, sure, but it's more about getting them out of my house because they don't fit my PC and I can roll those funds into some other single or box that I'd want to purchase.

I'm interested to see how the months ahead go for sealed wax. Arbitrage is a thing. You can't just run a bot and expect to become a millionaire by flipping retail wax. There's pretty razor thin profit margins already except for Prizm, Select and a small handful of other product. When will Panini raise their prices and get their piece of the pie? They aren't oblivious to what's going on and can use eBay too. You already saw PSA raise their grading prices; say goodbye to sending in your $1 base card, getting a 10 and flipping it for a 500-1000% return.

Have you seen some of the bot posts of product acquired? Between retail cards and PS5s anyone running a good bot the past 18 months has made well over a million profit. Problem is it doesn't matter how much they make. $1 million, $10 million, or $100 million. A bot user will never quit.

[salthill]

Originally Posted by mossoholic

Have you seen some of the bot posts of product acquired? Between retail cards and PS5s anyone running a good bot the past 18 months has made well over a million profit. Problem is it doesn't matter how much they make. $1 million, $10 million, or $100 million. A bot user will never quit.

Break that $1m profit down for me, if you don’t mind. It seems rather a lot.

[Cardboard Dawg]

Originally Posted by salthill

Break that $1m profit down for me, if you don’t mind. It seems rather a lot.

There is zero chance that a bot user has made over a million bucks in profit. None. Doesn't matter if they're selling PS5s or water from the Fountain of Youth.

I can believe high 5 figs or low 6 figs. But a million bucks, no chance. After you take away selling fees, shipping, paying for a monthly subscription to a bot... you aren't clearing much unless you are buying these things in bulk (as in, maybe upwards of a hundred or more at a time where you'd be almost like a retailer). And if you were, you'd have a better bot which is a higher monthly cost and more accounts which is also an expense as you either have to buy them or spend the time creating them.

There's a reason why most regard scalpers as lazy, unemployed bums. If you want to make an actual living off of scalping you have to put forth way more effort and at that point, why not get a full-time job?

[Hoopscardz83]

Originally Posted by Cardboard Dawg

There is zero chance that a bot user has made over a million bucks in profit. None. Doesn't matter if they're selling PS5s or water from the Fountain of Youth.

I can believe high 5 figs or low 6 figs. But a million bucks, no chance. After you take away selling fees, shipping, paying for a monthly subscription to a bot... you aren't clearing much unless you are buying these things in bulk (as in, maybe upwards of a hundred or more at a time where you'd be almost like a retailer). And if you were, you'd have a better bot which is a higher monthly cost and more accounts which is also an expense as you either have to buy them or spend the time creating them.

There's a reason why most regard scalpers as lazy, unemployed bums. If you want to make an actual living off of scalping you have to put forth way more effort and at that point, why not get a full-time job?

Agree no millions being made. Bot people to me are far worse compared to the in store scalper. Sadly most of the bot groups are run by teens and college kids with daddy's money.

[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by Cardboard Dawg

There is zero chance that a bot user has made over a million bucks in profit. None. Doesn't matter if they're selling PS5s or water from the Fountain of Youth.

I can believe high 5 figs or low 6 figs. But a million bucks, no chance. After you take away selling fees, shipping, paying for a monthly subscription to a bot... you aren't clearing much unless you are buying these things in bulk (as in, maybe upwards of a hundred or more at a time where you'd be almost like a retailer). And if you were, you'd have a better bot which is a higher monthly cost and more accounts which is also an expense as you either have to buy them or spend the time creating them.

There's a reason why most regard scalpers as lazy, unemployed bums. If you want to make an actual living off of scalping you have to put forth way more effort and at that point, why not get a full-time job?

Lol high 5 figures or low 6 figures for the entire year? I saw a bot user from 1 Walmart.com drop get over 1,000 total boxes and packs of Prizm and Select when those skus were selling for 5-6 times MSRP. That right there alone is more than $50,000 profit. From 1 day. You can find some pictures of the Target shipping boxes and the actual boxes that bots were receiving from Target before RedCard exclusives started. Single posts of deliveries from 1 drop with tens of thousands of dollars of profit. Single drop deliveries with more product than any normal buyer in this thread will receive even if Target.com continues to drop easily available product every week the rest of the year. When Chronicles basketball came out if you hit a full restock at a store it was like $5,000 profit. From 1 store. Online there were bot users the first week or two of Chronicles that in 1 or 2 weeks made over $100,000. Some of those skus were selling for 6-7 times MSRP right out of the gate. I could go on and on. Anyone following this already knows so I'm just wasting a post.

Virtually every single box and pack worth buying from walmart.com has been botted for over a year. It's not a huge resale product but a bot had over 400 blasters and 60 megas of Mosaic soccer just the other day I posted about. I know for a fact that same bot user obtained those same quantities or higher of worthwhile products in the past that sold for 2-6 times MSRP. If you really care to look the proof is out there.

You don’t think countless bot users got at least 100 PS5s? Heck they had months! I’m sure some got 50-100 in a single drop. $50,000 profit on 100 before fees or at least it was. I’m sure several bot users made 6 figures of PS5 profit.

I can name multiple people I have met going out looking for product in stores that made, or could have made not holding sealed, over $100,000 profit over the last year. You think those guys had the ability to get as much as a good bot user? Not even remotely close. If I was willing to keep getting up early every day of the week from May of 2020 until May of 2021 and sold every box and pack I did obtain or could have obtained had I wanted to be up those hours and do it as a 50+ hour a week job no doubt in my mind I would have made well over $100,000.

[theshowandme]

Guys, stop arguing about bots. They’re not going anywhere. Are you trying to awake Charm from his slumber?


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[actionbryan]

Chronicles draft all sold out, including fat pack format. More popular than expected

[actionbryan]

Does anyone know around when new funkos drop ?

[LTLurker]

Originally Posted by theshowandme

Guys, stop arguing about bots. They’re not going anywhere. Are you trying to awake Charm from his slumber?


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[brothertona]

A PS5 sells for $750 to $799, retail $524. I know of people that are clearing 150+ on drops. That's around $150 profit on each so around $22,500 on one drop. I think six figures is relatively easy on just ps5s.


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[Hoopscardz83]

I forgot moss is a pro bot fan boy. I follow bot stuff on twitter. You have over exaggerated everything, and surprised you have come back after your tacky suicide reference.

Also they pick like one or two people who got a lot to get people kissing their ass to join. Its a lot of fluff. Also to show off against other bot boys.