PITCHERS: Official Thread of the Hobby’s Outcast Position - Page 204

rwperu34 · 09-19-2025, 02:49 AM

Solid ESPN article on what aces look like then vs now;

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...-skenes-skubal

johnlocke36 · 09-19-2025, 04:43 AM

Haven't had a Mason Miller update in a while for all of you who doubted that he has the best stuff of any pitcher ever.

Last 16 appearances. 0 runs on 0 XBH and 34k in 16 innings. I'm sure there are numerous records/first mixed in this streak as well. Gonna go down as amazing trade for Padres when he's a starter next year

OhioLawyerF5 · 09-19-2025, 11:36 AM

Hunter Greene was throwing 102 in the 9th last night. I'd say his stuff is better than Millers, because he can do it more than one inning. Will be interesting to see if Miller can do it as a starter (if given the chance). I suspect several guys could have that stuff for 1 inning. Starting is the true test of a pitcher's stuff.

Archangel1775 · 09-19-2025, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Hunter Greene was throwing 102 in the 9th last night.

That's nuts

johnlocke36 · 09-19-2025, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by OhioLawyerF5

Hunter Greene was throwing 102 in the 9th last night. I'd say his stuff is better than Millers, because he can do it more than one inning. Will be interesting to see if Miller can do it as a starter (if given the chance). I suspect several guys could have that stuff for 1 inning. Starting is the true test of a pitcher's stuff.

I'm a big hunter greene fan, always have been and have been saying on here he has a chance to be best in baseball for a while now (he does throw 102 after all and thats all that matters).

As far as Miller starting, it will be interesting but also important to know how freakishly good his stuff is for how little pitching he has done.

He was a terrible d3 pitcher for a while, 1 good year at low level d1 and logged like 30 career innings in the minors. Then A's said F it your stuff is awesome go start. Tosses a 7 inning no hitter in like 3rd career start having thrown like 100 innings in his career vs non d3 hitters

Then A's said #@#@#@#@, your stuff is to good are forearm hurt for a few days, better make you a closer so we can trade you just in case you had Tommy John.

Meanwhile Reds took correct approach of we don't care if you have TJ we care that you come back throwing 102 in the 9th and here we are

hammertime · 09-21-2025, 05:22 PM

Greene vs Skenes Wed night.

oddstuff · 09-21-2025, 07:31 PM

Doesn't throw 100mph...but gets enough people out to be #5 in MLB for pitchers WAR at 6.0 (trails Skubal and Brown in the American League) in 17 starts (other leading SPs have 30-31 starts). 1.35 ERA (Skenes 2.03), 0.87 WHIP (Skubal 0.88). 3 hrs given up in 106 IP. Not too shabby for starting the season in the minors with no guarantees of making back to MLB this year..."outcast" and on nobody's radar start of the season. One more start (in NYY on Friday) to see if he can get to 10 wins. Arguably the best pitcher since the all-star break. Looking forward to a full season next year for Trevor Rogers.

hammertime · 09-26-2025, 08:49 PM

Another quality start for Sandy.

discodanman45 · 09-26-2025, 09:40 PM

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Another quality start for Sandy.

Rough start today, but calmed down and got into a grove. Next year I hope we see him take another step forward.

Archangel1775 · 09-27-2025, 08:17 PM

Eury with a decent line but got zero run support.

5.1 IP,3 Hits, 3 Runs, 11k's.

MiamiMarlinsFan · 09-27-2025, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Archangel1775

Eury with a decent line but got zero run support.

5.1 IP,3 Hits, 3 Runs, 11k's.

I was pleased with his last outing of the season. Especially on the same day this arrived. I love his Bowman Chrome RC because it features a photo from his MLB debut. I’m a Homer, for sure, but I really do think his future is bright.

Rbradleigh · 09-27-2025, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

I was pleased with his last outing of the season. Especially on the same day this arrived. I love his Bowman Chrome RC because it features a photo from his MLB debut. I’m a Homer, for sure, but I really do think his future is bright.

Eury for Cy 2026 And Marlins in the Playoffs too!

MiamiMarlinsFan · 09-27-2025, 10:53 PM

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Eury for Cy 2026 And Marlins in the Playoffs too!

Amen!

Sandy, Eury, Edward Cabrera… maybe Thomas White? 2026 could be fun. Maybe Bendix isn’t the devil!

OhioLawyerF5 · 09-28-2025, 12:05 PM

I'm rooting pretty hard for Cabrera today.

MiamiMarlinsFan · 09-28-2025, 01:24 PM

Well, by all means then, let’s get some good Cabrera juju out in the world…

LVDan · 09-28-2025, 02:12 PM

Chiming in fwiw

MiamiMarlinsFan · 09-28-2025, 04:04 PM

Dan, I think our powers combined did it!

#SuckItMets

LVDan · 09-29-2025, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

Dan, I think our powers combined did it!

#SuckItMets

What a nice season for him. FINALLY established as a reliable guy who can keep his team in games when he isn’t super sharp with the occasional dominant outings sprinkled in too.
The shoulder and elbow woes are obviously concerning- I was actually pretty surprised they rehabbed him back for those last couple starts instead of shutting him down in September for the year. Yay Ed!

Nsxice · 09-30-2025, 01:45 PM

Just some recent additions

PuddleMonkey · 09-30-2025, 07:39 PM

I appreciate your dedication.

johnlocke36 · 10-01-2025, 04:29 PM

Would just lite to point out that anyone who doesn't think Mason Miller has the best stuff ever is just wrong.

Fastballs below 102 today: 0
Hitters that have made contact in 2 appearances: also 0
runs allowed last 22 outings: 0. (4 hits lol)
XBH allowed: also 0

Since coming to SD (he's allowed 1 HR which is freak outlier). Asside from that 0 ERA and 51 Ks in 25 innings.

and before everyone says you cant say that doesn't count, of course it does. But when you otherwise have 0 XBH allowed and give up a fluke HR on the fastet pitch in baseball history to leaave yard its outlier

goyder43 · 10-01-2025, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by johnlocke36

Would just lite to point out that anyone who doesn't think Mason Miller has the best stuff ever is just wrong.

Fastballs below 102 today: 0
Hitters that have made contact in 2 appearances: also 0
runs allowed last 22 outings: 0. (4 hits lol)
XBH allowed: also 0

Since coming to SD (he's allowed 1 HR which is freak outlier). Asside from that 0 ERA and 51 Ks in 25 innings.

and before everyone says you cant say that doesn't count, of course it does. But when you otherwise have 0 XBH allowed and give up a fluke HR on the fastet pitch in baseball history to leaave yard its outlier

He just hit someone. He sucks

johnlocke36 · 10-01-2025, 04:49 PM

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He just hit someone. He sucks

dumb, tied MLB record for consecutive K's in post season. would have liked to see him get it

Archangel1775 · 10-02-2025, 11:16 AM

Roki handled that pressure well closing out the Reds. Got to be a confidence booster for him and the Dodgers. I thought he was hyperventilating for a sec but then fired a 102mph fastball

LVDan · 10-25-2025, 05:46 PM

I haven’t posted any bummy pickups in awhile so thought I’d share some recent stuff

09-19-2025, 02:49 AM	#5076
rwperu34 Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: Tempe, AZ Posts: 8,333	Solid ESPN article on what aces look like then vs now; https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/...-skenes-skubal __________________ Me: Did I win? Gixen: Yes. You won. Now you're broke.

09-21-2025, 05:22 PM	#5081
hammertime Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: OH->MI->MD->VA Posts: 6,862	Greene vs Skenes Wed night. __________________ Collecting foci: E98 master set, HOF rookie autos, Reds HOF autos, All-time top southpaws (Plank, Waddell, Grove, Hubbell, Spahn, Ford, Koufax, Carlton, Johnson, Kershaw), Ohtani

09-26-2025, 08:49 PM	#5083
hammertime Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: OH->MI->MD->VA Posts: 6,862	Another quality start for Sandy. __________________ Collecting foci: E98 master set, HOF rookie autos, Reds HOF autos, All-time top southpaws (Plank, Waddell, Grove, Hubbell, Spahn, Ford, Koufax, Carlton, Johnson, Kershaw), Ohtani

09-27-2025, 08:17 PM	#5085
Archangel1775 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Cali baby! Posts: 21,861	Eury with a decent line but got zero run support. 5.1 IP,3 Hits, 3 Runs, 11k's. __________________ *There are the intangibles that set someone apart from the pack.So the blur isn't your inability to see his greatness, it's merely the inability to measure it.*

09-28-2025, 02:12 PM	#5091
LVDan Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 17,566	Chiming in fwiw __________________ So we cheated and we lied and we tested. And we never failed to fail; it was the easiest thing to do.

09-19-2025, 04:43 AM	#5077
johnlocke36 Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,762	Haven't had a Mason Miller update in a while for all of you who doubted that he has the best stuff of any pitcher ever. Last 16 appearances. 0 runs on 0 XBH and 34k in 16 innings. I'm sure there are numerous records/first mixed in this streak as well. Gonna go down as amazing trade for Padres when he's a starter next year

09-19-2025, 11:36 AM	#5078
OhioLawyerF5 Member Join Date: Feb 2022 Posts: 7,087	Hunter Greene was throwing 102 in the 9th last night. I'd say his stuff is better than Millers, because he can do it more than one inning. Will be interesting to see if Miller can do it as a starter (if given the chance). I suspect several guys could have that stuff for 1 inning. Starting is the true test of a pitcher's stuff.

09-21-2025, 07:31 PM	#5082
oddstuff Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: CA Posts: 5,154	Doesn't throw 100mph...but gets enough people out to be #5 in MLB for pitchers WAR at 6.0 (trails Skubal and Brown in the American League) in 17 starts (other leading SPs have 30-31 starts). 1.35 ERA (Skenes 2.03), 0.87 WHIP (Skubal 0.88). 3 hrs given up in 106 IP. Not too shabby for starting the season in the minors with no guarantees of making back to MLB this year..."outcast" and on nobody's radar start of the season. One more start (in NYY on Friday) to see if he can get to 10 wins. Arguably the best pitcher since the all-star break. Looking forward to a full season next year for Trevor Rogers.

09-28-2025, 12:05 PM	#5089
OhioLawyerF5 Member Join Date: Feb 2022 Posts: 7,087	I'm rooting pretty hard for Cabrera today.

09-28-2025, 01:24 PM	#5090
MiamiMarlinsFan Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Florida Posts: 13,615	Well, by all means then, let’s get some good Cabrera juju out in the world…

09-28-2025, 04:04 PM	#5092
MiamiMarlinsFan Member Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: Florida Posts: 13,615	Dan, I think our powers combined did it! #SuckItMets

09-30-2025, 01:45 PM	#5094
Nsxice Member Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Tampa,FL Posts: 83 nsxice	Just some recent additions Attached Thumbnails __________________ Looking for 2011/2012 Matt Moore Superfractors

09-30-2025, 07:39 PM	#5095
PuddleMonkey Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Pacific Northwest Posts: 4,214	I appreciate your dedication.

10-01-2025, 04:29 PM	#5096
johnlocke36 Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: Southern California Posts: 2,762	Would just lite to point out that anyone who doesn't think Mason Miller has the best stuff ever is just wrong. Fastballs below 102 today: 0 Hitters that have made contact in 2 appearances: also 0 runs allowed last 22 outings: 0. (4 hits lol) XBH allowed: also 0 Since coming to SD (he's allowed 1 HR which is freak outlier). Asside from that 0 ERA and 51 Ks in 25 innings. and before everyone says you cant say that doesn't count, of course it does. But when you otherwise have 0 XBH allowed and give up a fluke HR on the fastet pitch in baseball history to leaave yard its outlier Last edited by johnlocke36; 10-01-2025 at 04:38 PM.

10-02-2025, 11:16 AM	#5099
Archangel1775 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Cali baby! Posts: 21,861	Roki handled that pressure well closing out the Reds. Got to be a confidence booster for him and the Dodgers. I thought he was hyperventilating for a sec but then fired a 102mph fastball __________________ *There are the intangibles that set someone apart from the pack.So the blur isn't your inability to see his greatness, it's merely the inability to measure it.*

10-25-2025, 05:46 PM	#5100
LVDan Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Posts: 17,566	I haven’t posted any bummy pickups in awhile so thought I’d share some recent stuff __________________ So we cheated and we lied and we tested. And we never failed to fail; it was the easiest thing to do.