PITCHERS: Official Thread of the Hobby’s Outcast Position

[LVDan]

Originally Posted by Above the Rim

Updated Jan., 6th - Yahoo Sports:

Odds to win 2026 NL Cy Young award.

Top half dozen guys are about as expected. But Nolan McLean chimes in at #19. Really, #19, at +3,000. Not saying he is going to win it, but #19 is a travesty!

Did anyone see this guy last year? He has the highest spin rate of any pitcher in MLB. Makes it look like he is pitching with wiffle balls. Hitters are in absolute amazement. McLean make them look stupid.

I've followed baseball for 50 years and the closest pitcher that comes to mind with anywhere close to McLean's movement is Greg Maddux, and frankly, its not even that close. In adition, Maddux' fastball was like 93 mph, and Mclean can throw the fastball 97-98 mph.

So what gives with the absurd #19 ranking with +3,000 odd for McLean ?

Mostly that high because the NL is stacked with aces and innings limits a lot of teams place on precious young arms but yeah he's filthy. Worth a fun $20 flyer for sure. I think he's the 3-1 favorite for ROY?

[dfenno]

Originally Posted by eye4talent

I generally prefer green parallels of Greene. But I couldn’t pass on this red.


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Nice looking Greene! I figure both red and green are color matches for HG.

[BGeezy]

Originally Posted by eye4talent

I generally prefer green parallels of Greene. But I couldn’t pass on this red.


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You're still buying him???

[eye4talent]

Originally Posted by BGeezy

You're still buying him???

Not as intensely as you’re surely still chasing Manoah, but yeah, I’ll pick up the occasional Greene.

I actually thought about you the other day. Have you seen the show, Bad Monkey? It’s set in Big Pine Key.


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[BGeezy]

Originally Posted by eye4talent

Not as intensely as you’re surely still chasing Manoah, but yeah, I’ll pick up the occasional Greene.

I actually thought about you the other day. Have you seen the show, Bad Monkey? It’s set in Big Pine Key.


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Ouch! I was just teasing and you went for the jugular...

To be fair, I haven't bought a Manoah card in years.

I was still there when they were filming. Various people told me they saw Vince around town. The scenes at his house are down Long Beach Trail, but not much else was actually shot there. Decent show.

[eye4talent]

Originally Posted by BGeezy

Ouch! I was just teasing and you went for the jugular...

To be fair, I haven't bought a Manoah card in years.

I was still there when they were filming. Various people told me they saw Vince around town. The scenes at his house are down Long Beach Trail, but not much else was actually shot there. Decent show.

Ha! That was perhaps a little sharp… I’m still hopeful that Manoah will rebound. I’m obviously not an insider, but it sure seemed like the Blue Jays gave up on him a little too quickly. Now, he and Grayson Rodriguez can lead the Angels to the promise land.

Yeah, Bad Monkey was an entertaining show.


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[rwperu34]

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Gold /50.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by rwperu34

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Gold /50.

It’ll be interesting to see if Gore can put it all together in ‘26. It seemed like it was about to happen last year, then the wheels came off.

[rwperu34]

Originally Posted by MiamiMarlinsFan

It’ll be interesting to see if Gore can put it all together in ‘26. It seemed like it was about to happen last year, then the wheels came off.

If he does, that only increases the chances of him getting traded. I'd like to see what he can do with an actual MLB caliber defense behind him.

[BGeezy]

Originally Posted by eye4talent

Ha! That was perhaps a little sharp… I’m still hopeful that Manoah will rebound. I’m obviously not an insider, but it sure seemed like the Blue Jays gave up on him a little too quickly. Now, he and Grayson Rodriguez can lead the Angels to the promise land.

Yeah, Bad Monkey was an entertaining show.


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His issues seem mental more than anything else, but I'm hopeful as well.

BTW... "eye4talent has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space."

[eye4talent]

Originally Posted by BGeezy

His issues seem mental more than anything else, but I'm hopeful as well.

BTW... "eye4talent has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space."

Space created.


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[johnlocke36]

Originally Posted by eye4talent

Ha! That was perhaps a little sharp… I’m still hopeful that Manoah will rebound. I’m obviously not an insider, but it sure seemed like the Blue Jays gave up on him a little too quickly. Now, he and Grayson Rodriguez can lead the Angels to the promise land.

Yeah, Bad Monkey was an entertaining show.


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imagine being an angels fan and going back to 2020 and being told you could Trade Taylor Ward for Manoah, Grayson, Nick Madrigal and Vaugn Grissom.

[LVDan]

A few new things
Treated myself to the expensive Pepiot pajamas for the holidays


And a Cabrera gold jammies/10 too.

[MiamiMarlinsFan]

Originally Posted by LVDan

A few new things
Treated myself to the expensive Pepiot pajamas for the holidays


And a Cabrera gold jammies/10 too.

You filthy, Dan.

[rwperu34]

I had four total cards of Ryan Weathers. Two of them were purchased, which caused me to check the news. I had a base BCA in my drafts which I listed immidiately. Then this one, which I immidiately doubled the price;

[eye4talent]

Originally Posted by rwperu34

I had four total cards of Ryan Weathers. Two of them were purchased, which caused me to check the news. I had a base BCA in my drafts which I listed immidiately. Then this one, which I immidiately doubled the price;

I saw the news and almost bought a blue BCA for $30. But, ultimately, it probably won’t be worth it. I like Weathers, but he’ll be back of the rotation. It’s a good pickup by the Yankees, though—assuming Weathers can finally stay healthy.


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[LVDan]

Much like when Cabrera went to the Cubbies last week, I'll sell some of my Weathers cards in the next month or two, get my buy in down past zero then hold a few nice ones and see what happens.
Just need NYM to trade for Pepiot and I'll have a built-in out for 3 of my biggest bum stashes

[eye4talent]

The best $5 I spent last week.


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[oddstuff]

Hoping Rogers will continue to build on his 2nd half season this year.

[LVDan]

Originally Posted by eye4talent

The best $5 I spent last week.


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Dumpster diving can be lonely- it’s cool to have a few partners in the filth.

Os rotation is interesting…elfin and kremer to eat innngs, Bradish and Rogers up front and who knows with Baz?? Looks like they have a couple intriguing SP prospects possibly too.
Could be meh, could surprise

[eye4talent]

Originally Posted by LVDan

Dumpster diving can be lonely- it’s cool to have a few partners in the filth.

Os rotation is interesting…elfin and kremer to eat innngs, Bradish and Rogers up front and who knows with Baz?? Looks like they have a couple intriguing SP prospects possibly too.
Could be meh, could surprise

Feels good to return to my roots.

I’m predicting every relevant Dodger tears a hamstring or elbow ligament, and the World Series ends up being Reds-Orioles, with a Greene-Rogers duel in Game 7. Seems like a reasonable bet, yeah?


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[LVDan]

Originally Posted by eye4talent

Feels good to return to my roots.

I’m predicting every relevant Dodger tears a hamstring or elbow ligament, and the World Series ends up being Reds-Orioles, with a Greene-Rogers duel in Game 7. Seems like a reasonable bet, yeah?


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Sounds legit- Lodolo spins the gem in game 6 playing the part of a skinny Sid Fernandez to force game 7 for Greene's Doc Gooden.

[eye4talent]

Originally Posted by LVDan

Sounds legit- Lodolo spins the gem in game 6 playing the part of a skinny Sid Fernandez to Greene's Doc Gooden.

Boom. The ‘26 season is over before it started.


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[eye4talent]

They can’t all be dumpster dives…


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[LVDan]

If you’re gonna spend up for anyone, Perez and Greene are outstanding arms with considerable room to grow IMO