2023 Allen & Ginter Thread!

[Rememberthepast]

Originally Posted by Enryon

My first case was actually pretty good. Photos of the notables below. Minis produces 2 no number of journeymen and nothing else. 8 autos in my case seems way above average for what others have posted. I did not get any monster names, but I think I did pretty good. I have not decided to rip the rip cards or just keep them.

I can use the Baez RIP in unripped condition

[salthill]

Originally Posted by Allen Ginter 99

People selling De Niro and hart mini framed autos
They aren’t on checklists
Does that mean these are guaranteed unredeemable redemptions ?
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Saw a black mini auto of De Niro hit today. It’s a redemption.

[salthill]

Originally Posted by akabruno

Got my usual 1 case per year. First time I didn’t get a Brooklyn back.

Might be obvious, but did you double check them? They’re not red backs this year. And the number is handwritten on the front, instead of the back.

[salthill]

Originally Posted by TheGZA

It’s probably already been said but Topps misspelled Thomas Ian Nicholas’ (Henry rowengardner, American pie guy) name on his card. Dopes


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And only on his relic. His base is correct.

[STLtoMN]

first time ripping a case, most all for sale....also lots on inserts and foils... better results below:

Autos:
Gary Sheffield /25 Black Border
Casey Webb
Kyle Schultz
John DiMaggio
Luis Robert
Lenyn Sosa RC

Rip Cards:
Joey Votto /99 --> Wander EXT Mini
Tyler Freeman /199 --> George Brett EXT Mini

Relics:
David Ortiz Mini Framed
Fred McGriff Mini Framed
Carlton Fist Mini Framed
John Smoltz Mini Framed
Nelson Cruz Mini Framed
Julio Urias Mini Framed
DJ Skee Full Sized
Adam Ray Full Sized
Eric Stonestreet Full Sized
Old Time Hawkey Full Sized
Cristopher Morel Full Sized
Riley Greene Full Sized
Nelson Cortes Full Sized
Austin Riley Full Sized
Corbin Burnes Full Sized
Ian Anderson Full Sized
Ryan Mountcastle Full Sized
Christian Yelich Full Sized
Ryan McMahon Full Sized
Rhys Hoskins Full Sized
Tommy Pham Full Sized
Luis Arraez Full Sized
Jeff McNeil Full Sized
Yoan Moncada Full Sized
Jonathan India Full Sized
Blake Snell Full Sized
Tommy Edman Full Sized
Victor Robles Full Sized

Better Foil Filigree:
Kevin Hart
Bun B x2
Shintaro Fujinami

In Action:
Bo Bichette
Vladimir Guerrero Jr.

Silver Portrait Hot Box:
Victor Wembanyama
Kevin Hart
Bun B
Meek Mill
Corbin Carroll
Jordan Walker
Masataka Yoshida
Triston Casas
Francisco Alvarez
Oscar Colas
Mike Trout SP
Mike Trout
Ronald Acuna Jr.
Julio Rodriguez

Minis:
Jake McCarthy Stained Glass
Ethan Small Brooklyn /25
Ezequiel Duran No Name
Greg Maddux No Name
Kevin Hart Black
Bun B Black
Garrett Mitchell Black
Mike Trout Black
Babe Ruth Black
Fernando Tatis Jr. Black
Adley Rutschman A&G Back

[Gthompson1978]

Originally Posted by STLtoMN

first time ripping a case, most all for sale....also lots on inserts and foils... better results below:

Autos:
Gary Sheffield /25 Black Border
Casey Webb
Kyle Schultz
John DiMaggio
Luis Robert
Lenyn Sosa RC

Rip Cards:
Joey Votto /99 --> Wander EXT Mini
Tyler Freeman /199 --> George Brett EXT Mini

Relics:
David Ortiz Mini Framed
Fred McGriff Mini Framed
Carlton Fist Mini Framed
John Smoltz Mini Framed
Nelson Cruz Mini Framed
Julio Urias Mini Framed
DJ Skee Full Sized
Adam Ray Full Sized
Eric Stonestreet Full Sized
Old Time Hawkey Full Sized
Cristopher Morel Full Sized
Riley Greene Full Sized
Nelson Cortes Full Sized
Austin Riley Full Sized
Corbin Burnes Full Sized
Ian Anderson Full Sized
Ryan Mountcastle Full Sized
Christian Yelich Full Sized
Ryan McMahon Full Sized
Rhys Hoskins Full Sized
Tommy Pham Full Sized
Luis Arraez Full Sized
Jeff McNeil Full Sized
Yoan Moncada Full Sized
Jonathan India Full Sized
Blake Snell Full Sized
Tommy Edman Full Sized
Victor Robles Full Sized

Better Foil Filigree:
Kevin Hart
Bun B x2
Shintaro Fujinami

In Action:
Bo Bichette
Vladimir Guerrero Jr.

Silver Portrait Hot Box:
Victor Wembanyama
Kevin Hart
Bun B
Meek Mill
Corbin Carroll
Jordan Walker
Masataka Yoshida
Triston Casas
Francisco Alvarez
Oscar Colas
Mike Trout SP
Mike Trout
Ronald Acuna Jr.
Julio Rodriguez

Minis:
Jake McCarthy Stained Glass
Ethan Small Brooklyn /25
Ezequiel Duran No Name
Greg Maddux No Name
Kevin Hart Black
Bun B Black
Garrett Mitchell Black
Mike Trout Black
Babe Ruth Black
Fernando Tatis Jr. Black
Adley Rutschman A&G Back

Would have loved to had the Votto, unripped

[Allen Ginter 99]

Originally Posted by Enryon

My first case was actually pretty good. Photos of the notables below. Minis produces 2 no number of journeymen and nothing else. 8 autos in my case seems way above average for what others have posted. I did not get any monster names, but I think I did pretty good. I have not decided to rip the rip cards or just keep them.

That is a loaded case but even breaking down actually eBay selling value you prob lost 50 percent.


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[illadelf]

Originally Posted by Promethius88

I'm 53... I grew up with in the dawning days of rap. That being said, my rap knowledge probably ends in the late 1990's. I can't keep up anymore.

It's also not as cool when the 53 year old white dude driving down the road blasting Biggie or Tupac pulls up to you at the stop light. But sometimes I forget that I'm that guy and let it roll.

Picture me rollin’


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[MotorboatJones]

Originally Posted by Allen Ginter 99

That is a loaded case but even breaking down actually eBay selling value you prob lost 50 percent.

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Some people actually open cards to collect them and enjoy them. This constant focus on losing money is honestly irrelevant. It’s almost all a “losing” proposition. People buy for different reasons. Sell some, collect the set, enjoy opening. People who are just looking at ROI need to to realize that this is almost never an investment to open cards. I think ROE (Return on Enjoyment) is more important and should be more of a focus. It’s a hobby, not an investment club.

[speedyjg13]

How many stained minis per player?

[ClevelandIC]

I opened 16 Boxes yesterday and here are some notes!

I pulled 10 Autographs
7 Non-Baseball (Palmer x2, Pichardo x2, Mayer, Charania and Kyle Schultz)
3 Baseball (Robert, Stott and Buxton)

The Framed Relics are much more predominant names than I recall. Normally you'd get one to two decent names but MOST of my framed Relics were HOFers.

1x Brooklyn Back - David Ortiz. Numbering on the front is lame
1x NNO Mini - Derek Jeter

2x Triple Rip Cards - One from the sealed case and one from loose boxes.
Cobb /99 & Verlander /99

Zero Single or Double Rip - This is a theme with me - I've opened a lot of Ginter - I've NEVER pulled a single or double rip. These Triple Rips are my first rip cards I've ever pulled over multiple cases. I always seems to miss these.

I did hit two Silver Portrait Hot Boxes. The first one was great condition and all different cards. The second box was weird, tons of duplicates and some minor surface marks on the very condition sensitive foil.

The filigree parallels are new and a nice touch in my opinion. The 'In Action' look like an insert and I don't think are going to do much for people. I pulled three - Riley Greene, Seager and Oneil Cruz.

1x Framed Cloth Card - I do love these - Luis Arraez

The cards overall were in great condition. I had one box missing a hit (I had already pulled an auto in the box so probably not missing much). I had a box that was missing 3-4 minis and also had a mini turned sideways and severely damaged.

Box Toppers - I have seen the same comment from a lot of people, on the oversize box toppers I have one player I have 3-4 of but the rest are all different. If anyone needs a Mike Trout let me know!

[sandyfrank]

Originally Posted by MotorboatJones

Some people actually open cards to collect them and enjoy them. This constant focus on losing money is honestly irrelevant. It’s almost all a “losing” proposition. People buy for different reasons. Sell some, collect the set, enjoy opening. People who are just looking at ROI need to to realize that this is almost never an investment to open cards. I think ROE (Return on Enjoyment) is more important and should be more of a focus. It’s a hobby, not an investment club.

Very well said, a lot of people completely ignore the fun factor on ripping packs of cards. That's probably why I love Ginter, just super fun opening the packs and seeing all the interesting cards and mini sets and then once in a while a really cool hit. Plus it's never gotten that crazy price spike like so many other products have now.

[MotorboatJones]

Originally Posted by sandyfrank

Very well said, a lot of people completely ignore the fun factor on ripping packs of cards. That's probably why I love Ginter, just super fun opening the packs and seeing all the interesting cards and mini sets and then once in a while a really cool hit. Plus it's never gotten that crazy price spike like so many other products have now.

Exactly !

[UCCF]

Originally Posted by ClevelandIC

The filigree parallels are new and a nice touch in my opinion. The 'In Action' look like an insert and I don't think are going to do much for people.

Agreed on both of these points. The filigrees are really nice. I don't know what the print run is on them, but they would make a killer set.

And the In Actions are a miss. A Ginter variation using the base design but a different picture would have been fine. But this is just an insert set with a shorter print run, but not a short enough print run to make anyone care about it (it's not Downtown or Kaboom). It's more like those wooden lumber cards that they put into flagship this year. Nice to hit it, but it's not going to wow you.

[MotorboatJones]

Originally Posted by UCCF

Agreed on both of these points. The filigrees are really nice. I don't know what the print run is on them, but they would make a killer set.

And the In Actions are a miss. A Ginter variation using the base design but a different picture would have been fine. But this is just an insert set with a shorter print run, but not a short enough print run to make anyone care about it (it's not Downtown or Kaboom). It's more like those wooden lumber cards that they put into flagship this year. Nice to hit it, but it's not going to wow you.

Yes, on the Actions, they at least could have used to same back as the base card to make it more like an Action variation. Cool, but not as desirable.

[TheGZA]

Originally Posted by MotorboatJones

Some people actually open cards to collect them and enjoy them. This constant focus on losing money is honestly irrelevant. It’s almost all a “losing” proposition. People buy for different reasons. Sell some, collect the set, enjoy opening. People who are just looking at ROI need to to realize that this is almost never an investment to open cards. I think ROE (Return on Enjoyment) is more important and should be more of a focus. It’s a hobby, not an investment club.

Spot on! Buy cards for fun


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[baseballguy350]

I only bought 5 boxes instead of my usual case because I wanted to grab some singles this year.

3 from BO, 2 from elsewhere.

Couldn’t do much better. 1 of the 5 was a silver foil hot box.
The rest of the boxes were fantastic.

Julio Rip /199
Acuña Boxloader Triple Rip /99
Corbin Carroll RC Auto
Gabriel Moreno RC Auto
Fred Kerley Auto
Sarah Natochenny Auto which I was originally bummed about. Whoops.

Not going to do any better than that.

If you pull a Robert Kraft auto, Thomas Ian Nicholas auto, or any Red Sox autos I’m your trade partner.

All will be available FT or FS. Rips are staying sealed.

[WallyatJCCards]

Originally Posted by salthill

Saw a black mini auto of De Niro hit today. It’s a redemption.

That's a non-sport auto I would be thrilled to hit!

[CicadaMound]

What I can't understand is why they don't have the non-baseball subjects wear interesting patterns. It looks like some of Bomani Jones' relics are from a tie, they're sweet.

[Allen Ginter 99]

Originally Posted by CicadaMound

What I can't understand is why they don't have the non-baseball subjects wear interesting patterns. It looks like some of Bomani Jones' relics are from a tie, they're sweet.

Some celebrities have posted about that. They usually get asked by Topps to mail them a piece of used clothing


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[Allen Ginter 99]

Finally Topps doing the right thing but not claiming these are actual dinosaur fossils


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[DrSicPkl]

What does the front look like?

Originally Posted by Allen Ginter 99

Finally Topps doing the right thing but not claiming these are actual dinosaur fossils


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[banosd]

Ripped open a dual of Mays and Posey because I'm not a big fan of the Giants and got minis of Ichiro and Acuna Jr

[majestik101]

The market has spoken. Sarah Natochenny Ginter autos are only worth $200 bucks. Not the thousands of dollars somebody here on the forums was saying earlier.

[kyleuk21]

Originally Posted by majestik101

The market has spoken. Sarah Natochenny Ginter autos are only worth $200 bucks. Not the thousands of dollars somebody here on the forums was saying earlier.

A&G autos are usually like $20. A person included on the checklist that brings 9-10x that is excellent and is considered a top tier auto for this set in any year.