Panini America CEO Addresses Jersey-Card Labeling Errors in 2014 Flawless Football - Page 21

packman80 · 11-20-2014, 07:04 PM

My respone:

For this to be the high of high end product line and to be this messed up? This is very poor quality control. Who ever is in charge there of quality control needs to lose their jobs. I think though this was more of knowing about these errors but not caring and just hoping that the consumer was too stupid to notice and have you get caught for doing this. I am glad I did not spend several thousands of dollars to buy a product this messed up. If Panini had any class not only would they fix the cards they would also give the buyer a refund or extra cards to show how sorry they are. Perhaps the only way to teach Panini a lesson would be for people not to buy their products until they actually showed they cared about the product they were producing.

panther252 · 11-20-2014, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by RollBamaRoll

Wonder if Panini changed his post....

Loooool! Well he certainly had quite the change of heart. This poo is hilarious.

lennox.p · 11-20-2014, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jj2

But let me guess, you still have all of your auto cards because they're all squeaky clean, right? This is a massive stuff up on Panini's part, but if you're going to adopt this philosophy every time a card company stuffs up then just give up collecting cards. In fact, you can probably just give up on everything in general.

The sky is not falling.

it is for all the guys who "collect" cards for profit and not for fun.

BoxBreaker72 · 11-20-2014, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by RollBamaRoll

Wonder if Panini changed his post....

Wow, they are censoring the collectors true thoughts on this and only letting the leeches kiss up?

I......hate this company.

myerscards · 11-20-2014, 07:07 PM

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DalliLlama11 · 11-20-2014, 07:09 PM

all i got from reading the thread was, if u have some of these players in some of the sets, u may or may not have a game used card. of the emerald lucks (5) u may have 1 of the game worn or event worn. pretty much crap

chitownbears22 · 11-20-2014, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by lennox.p

it is for all the guys who "collect" cards for profit and not for fun.

Are you fine with me trading cards where I changed out the patch for a NFL Logo? These are fake patches brought to you by a NFL approved manufacturer.

ekalbnz · 11-20-2014, 07:09 PM

If most of the current players have "event worn" as opposed to "game worn" it does not leave me very confident that the retired vets featured are all game worn.

RollBamaRoll · 11-20-2014, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by BoxBreaker72

Wow, they are censoring the collectors true thoughts on this and only letting the leeches kiss up?

I......hate this company.

Luke Davidiuk @LukeDavidiuk · Nov 18
@FireHand17 I tried to comment on the blog, but @PaniniAmerica is "moderating" my post. I'll attach it here as well http://tinyurl.com/nnf8ex7

jsnake89 · 11-20-2014, 07:10 PM

Wow, just Wow its like listening to Obama's BS.

cniel2924 · 11-20-2014, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrandonw

I've seen that name on certain box breakers sites, but not on here. What an idiot. Surely these people can't be that naive.

He is not an idiot.

People can have differing opinions.

1syndicate and I probably wouldn't agree on this whole topic, but I guarantee there would be no need for us to call each other names or lose sleep over it.

1syndicate is a good dude he is standing by Panini and that is understandable too.

For what it's worth, despite all this scandal and potential fraud with Flawless.. it is still my favorite product of this year and still would be the first 2014 product I would go back for more of if I wasn't trying to do my best to avoid it due to personal reasons.

cking · 11-20-2014, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by jj2

But let me guess, you still have all of your auto cards because they're all squeaky clean, right? This is a massive stuff up on Panini's part, but if you're going to adopt this philosophy every time a card company stuffs up then just give up collecting cards. In fact, you can probably just give up on everything in general.

The sky is not falling.

Panini is selling you fake stuff..................its time to wake up.

BoxBreaker72 · 11-20-2014, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RollBamaRoll

Luke Davidiuk @LukeDavidiuk · Nov 18
@FireHand17 I tried to comment on the blog, but @PaniniAmerica is "moderating" my post. I'll attach it here as well http://tinyurl.com/nnf8ex7

So then they completely forged his response and used his name?

This is going to get ugly.

patchgenie · 11-20-2014, 07:13 PM

calvin event used

panini doesn't deserve any exclusive licenses. what a joke

jj2 · 11-20-2014, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by cking

Panini is selling you fake stuff..................its time to wake up.

I haven't bought any of it, have you?

Do you think there's any card manufactures that haven't sold us "fake" stuff, purposefully or otherwise?

How are are all of those autograph cards going? No-one's ever found any authenticity problems with those.

MeetJSquared · 11-20-2014, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by BoxBreaker72

So then they completely forged his response and used his name?

This is going to get ugly.

At least he knows, and it seems clear that he didn't post what actually shows up as the 'moderated' comment.

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Originally Posted by patchgenie

calvin event used

panini doesn't deserve any exclusive licenses. what a joke

Exactly.

BTW, do you grant wishes? I'm sure Panini could use a few right now.

BoxBreaker72 · 11-20-2014, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MeetJSquared

At least he knows, and it seems clear that he's didn't post what actually shows up as the 'moderated' comment.

Exactly.

BTW, do you grant wishes? I'm sure Panini could use a few right now.

That is straight up dirty and shows exactly what type of scum is working there.

Something needs to be done.

Tvanho · 11-20-2014, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by BoxBreaker72

So then they completely forged his response and used his name?

This is going to get ugly.

I cant even believe this. Theres is no way panini would go from that to this. I cant believe a company would do that. He had to have changed his mind or some thing. No way.

cking · 11-20-2014, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jj2

I haven't bought any of it, have you?

Do you think there's any card manufactures that haven't sold us "fake" stuff, purposefully or otherwise?

How are are all of those autograph cards going? No-one's ever found any authenticity problems with those.

What autos are you talking about?

BoxBreaker72 · 11-20-2014, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by cniel2924

He is not an idiot.

People can have differing opinions.

1syndicate and I probably wouldn't agree on this whole topic, but I guarantee there would be no need for us to call each other names or lose sleep over it.

1syndicate is a good dude he is standing by Panini and that is understandable too.

For what it's worth, despite all this scandal and potential fraud with Flawless.. it is still my favorite product of this year and still would be the first 2014 product I would go back for more of if I wasn't trying to do my best to avoid it due to personal reasons.

So, he's a shill basically? Got it.

No one in their right mind is siding with this joke of a company.

BoxBreaker72 · 11-20-2014, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tvanho

I cant even believe this. Theres is no way panini would go from that to this. I cant believe a company would do that. He had to have changed his mind or some thing. No way.

Unreal.. They took his negative post, removed all the content and then used HIS NAME to add their own message disguised as him. Omg I have no words.

panther252 · 11-20-2014, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BoxBreaker72

So then they completely forged his response and used his name?

This is going to get ugly.

This poo is better than sex, "truly set the standard" loooool! How can they be so conceited? Now excuse me while I go find some lotion...

Edit: where the fug is the lotion in this damn house!? I Can't Believe it's Not Butter will just have to do I guess...

xXdirtyjoeXx · 11-20-2014, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by panther252

This poo is better than sex, "truly set the standard" loooool! How can they be so conceited? Now excuse me while I go find some lotion...

Edit: where the fug is the lotion in this damn house!? I Can't Believe it's Not Butter will just have to do I guess...

Just don't get the buttery crumbs in the jam!

twisty571 · 11-20-2014, 07:25 PM

I haven't read all 20 pages but a question I wonder is.... Does NFLPA know about this stuff going on? I highly doubt it. Wonder how they would feel about this stuff?

packman80 · 11-20-2014, 07:27 PM

Here is another one praising Panini. Sure seems that Panini is faking these responses. I still see my response calling Panini out is still showing waiting moderation.

Charlie DiPietro PERMALINK
November 20, 2014 6:08 pm
Panini’s honesty and detailed research into this matter is commendable. I respect and trust those who tell me they made a mistake and will make sure it doesn’t happen again. While this will result in a lot of negative talk from a vocal few, there is much good that will result in the future. Having truly “Game Used” material cards is far better than just labeling everything as “Player Worn.” And, having a process which guarantees the Jersey Cards are accurately identified is important to the hobby.
I am sure that Panini has/can fix them problem. If I may suggest, when the new process is finalized, it may be best to be totally transparent with collectors on how the improved process works. Even before this situation, there has been a significant number of skeptics with regards to the authenticity of “Game Used” memorabilia throughout the hobby. A tab on your website with a video of the process would help to convince the most paranoid skeptics.
While this situation may be embarrassing, my trust and respect for Panini America has grown. I look forward to doing business with Panini America for a long time.
Charlie DiPietro, Owner
Sports Cards Plus of San Antonio

11-20-2014, 07:07 PM	#505
myerscards Banned Join Date: Oct 2014 Posts: 9,729	Sickest Game-used Panini Mailday--- For trade! ....................... Last edited by myerscards; 11-20-2014 at 07:32 PM.

11-20-2014, 07:09 PM	#506
DalliLlama11 Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Montgomery, Illinois Posts: 4,464 DalliLlama11 DalliLlama	all i got from reading the thread was, if u have some of these players in some of the sets, u may or may not have a game used card. of the emerald lucks (5) u may have 1 of the game worn or event worn. pretty much crap __________________ I collect the Atlanta Falcons, Miami Heat, Texas Longhorns (Only in UT Uni), Marquise Goodwin.

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jsnake89 Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Texas Posts: 6,340 Brock088	Wow, just Wow its like listening to Obama's BS. __________________ *Building 2014 Topps Chrome Sepia Set.* *SUPER COLLECTING* *Kendall Wright 272*

11-20-2014, 07:04 PM	#501
packman80 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 17,067	My respone: For this to be the high of high end product line and to be this messed up? This is very poor quality control. Who ever is in charge there of quality control needs to lose their jobs. I think though this was more of knowing about these errors but not caring and just hoping that the consumer was too stupid to notice and have you get caught for doing this. I am glad I did not spend several thousands of dollars to buy a product this messed up. If Panini had any class not only would they fix the cards they would also give the buyer a refund or extra cards to show how sorry they are. Perhaps the only way to teach Panini a lesson would be for people not to buy their products until they actually showed they cared about the product they were producing.

11-20-2014, 07:09 PM	#508
ekalbnz Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: New Zealand (but have a USA shipping address) Posts: 3,177	If most of the current players have "event worn" as opposed to "game worn" it does not leave me very confident that the retired vets featured are all game worn.

11-20-2014, 07:13 PM	#514
patchgenie Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Posts: 6,840 americansportscards	calvin event used panini doesn't deserve any exclusive licenses. what a joke

11-20-2014, 07:25 PM	#524
twisty571 Member Join Date: May 2013 Posts: 8,808	I haven't read all 20 pages but a question I wonder is.... Does NFLPA know about this stuff going on? I highly doubt it. Wonder how they would feel about this stuff?

11-20-2014, 07:27 PM	#525
packman80 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 17,067	Here is another one praising Panini. Sure seems that Panini is faking these responses. I still see my response calling Panini out is still showing waiting moderation. Charlie DiPietro PERMALINK November 20, 2014 6:08 pm Panini’s honesty and detailed research into this matter is commendable. I respect and trust those who tell me they made a mistake and will make sure it doesn’t happen again. While this will result in a lot of negative talk from a vocal few, there is much good that will result in the future. Having truly “Game Used” material cards is far better than just labeling everything as “Player Worn.” And, having a process which guarantees the Jersey Cards are accurately identified is important to the hobby. I am sure that Panini has/can fix them problem. If I may suggest, when the new process is finalized, it may be best to be totally transparent with collectors on how the improved process works. Even before this situation, there has been a significant number of skeptics with regards to the authenticity of “Game Used” memorabilia throughout the hobby. A tab on your website with a video of the process would help to convince the most paranoid skeptics. While this situation may be embarrassing, my trust and respect for Panini America has grown. I look forward to doing business with Panini America for a long time. Charlie DiPietro, Owner Sports Cards Plus of San Antonio