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[TimBuckTwo]

Can we build it? Yes we can !

Bob the Builder

[brock]

Originally Posted by maj78

I don't think you're crazy at all. That's a really good price. This card was a $5K card not that long ago and while it may not get back there anytime real soon I could easily see it getting back up to $4K in short order.

Most people on the BO boards tend to say to stay away from Prizm and go with #'d Chronicles instead for a middle of the pack Zion card. While I love #'d Chronicles myself for PC purposes, if you go to shows or get on IG and mention Chronicles most people run, not walk, the other way. IMHO, Prizm Silver's are still the most popular Zion mid-range card on the market.

Congrats on a great pick up!

I avoided the silver prizm due to price and pop report for almost a year and a half.

I hear you on Chronicles #'d stuff. I have a blue and red crusade as well as a blue and bronze phoenix. All 4 are PSA 10. I like all of those better, but figured if I'm going to go deep on Z, I need at least one silver prizm.

I blinked on a PSA 10 Zion O&O a couple weeks ago on ebay. Makes me sad... should've done it. For now I'll have to console myself with my raw copy.

[Chrominator]

Originally Posted by brock

I finally caved and bought a Zion Silver prizm PSA 10... under $2,800 with taxes...

am I crazy?

No.

#believe

[oldgoldy97]

I didn’t even think Grandma Bledsoe would be defending him. Now I’ve seen everything.

[mossoholic]

Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

I mean... if you're out here defending Eric Bledsoe's $20M and him being "only 31 years old" is an ok thing to have on your roster, we're just not going to see eye to eye on this. But you are right on the 2022-23 thing, they could save some money by cutting him, but it's still going to leave some dead cap, and again, he's a horrible player at this point and wouldn't be surprised if the Pels backcourt improves simply by removing him and giving more PT to NAW and Kira. I don't care about how bad John Wall's contract is, or any other bad contract for that matter. If I'm the Pelicans and trying to be the best I can be, I shouldn't be looking for the worst possible situations and patting myself on the back for not being in their shoes.

The pick swap is only 7 picks down in the middle of the draft, which is generally a crapshoot anyway. Jonas being better than both players they jettisoned is a bonus, because the whole point from a teambuilding standpoint was to get rid of those bad contracts to make way for bringing in actual talent to put around Zion. If they don't re-sign Jonas, who cares? The whole point was to dump the Adams and Bledsoe deals for flexibility, bringing back a highly productive player in the short term is just a bonus.

I wouldn't bring in Lowry, because I feel like that's a "last piece" move and they're not at that point yet. If you feel like Lowry is over the hill at 36, but Bledsoe still has room to improve at 31... what exactly does your idea of a career arc look like? I also wouldn't bring back Lonzo, and would trade Ingram for a more complete perimeter player, but kinda think they will keep both. Either way, this move should make them better in both the short term, and long term

It's sure an ok thing to have that less than $20 million for 1 year on Memphis' roster. They know they aren't going to resign Jonas after this season. They got 2 good pick swaps and another 1st rounder. I don't think Memphis wants Bledsoe or Adams. They want the draft picks. If Bledsoe reverts to pre 2020-21 form they can get something back for him at the trade deadline or after this season. If Bledsoe stinks you cut him after this year and owe him next to nothing.

That pick swap only being 7 picks is going to possibly be the difference between Josh Giddey and an average player. If Memphis gets Josh Giddey and he is what some people believe that swap alone is worth the trade for Memphis. If I'm the Pelicans and I like Jonas I'd rather him not be productive this year so I can resign him. Pelicans are going nowhere this year. If Jonas is great he gets $25-$30 million and the Pels don't resign him.

There is a huge difference for most guys between 31 and 36. Most guys that were very good players at 31 are out of the league or bench players at 36. On a team that doesn't have a chance to win I'd rather have 1 year of a sub $20 million contract of Bledsoe at 31 than a 3 year contract to Lowry for $75-$90 million that starts at his current age.

I would trade Ingram as well. I don't think a team with Ingram as the second best player is going to go anywhere. If Zion is going to stay you want to free up the money, get another real star, and young players that could be great to play with Zion.

[Spacemanspif]

FYI in case anyone has this on their watch list… the opulence RPA booklet is fraudulent. They’re using all my pics except for the ones showing the serial number. It’s pretty obvious and from a zero feedback seller but there’s bids from high feedback bidders so please report.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2019-20-Opu...-/184968429382

[hairyangryfella]

Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

FYI in case anyone has this on their watch list… the opulence RPA booklet is fraudulent. They’re using all my pics except for the ones showing the serial number. It’s pretty obvious and from a zero feedback seller but there’s bids from high feedback bidders so please report.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/2019-20-Opu...-/184968429382

Link didn't work for me but I think I've found it https://www.ebay.com/itm/2019-20-Opu...-127632-2357-0

Have your reported it? Since you own it, surely you're the one who can get it taken down.

[Spacemanspif]

Originally Posted by hairyangryfella

Link didn't work for me but I think I've found it https://www.ebay.com/itm/2019-20-Opu...-127632-2357-0

Have your reported it? Since you own it, surely you're the one who can get it taken down.

yeah that one. I reported it but don't think it does anything unless a bunch of people report it. There's no spot to say "this guy copied my listing" so it was just a single "this is fraudulent" that probably gets ignored. honestly if you type in "Zion Williamson Opulence" you get 11 results, with my listing right next to this one and they're obviously identical... guess that will never get in the way of people looking for a steal though

[Spartyon]

Recently got this in the mail, not a big fan of sticker autos, but these are notorious for having peeling on the backs so I couldn't pass it up at the price. Currently pop 1





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[Szadeh7]

Picked this up from someone at the National…thoughts


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[Szadeh7]

Picked this up from someone at the National…thoughts? It was riskiest I felt since there are no comps and its the National line, but man 1/1 is hard to say no to

[TheKillers11]

Originally Posted by Szadeh7

Picked this up from someone at the National…thoughts? It was riskiest I felt since there are no comps and its the National line, but man 1/1 is hard to say no to

Awesome card!


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[TheKillers11]

Sad day for the Pels. Sad day for Zion’s future development tbh.


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[22emmittfan]

Originally Posted by TheKillers11

Sad day for the Pels. Sad day for Zion’s future development tbh.


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Not as bad as you think for Zion. He can now play point, shooting guard, small forward , power forward and center. Championship

[Akphillips86]

Originally Posted by 22emmittfan

Not as bad as you think for Zion. He can now play point, shooting guard, small forward , power forward and center. Championship

Zion is going to have to write his own book with the same title.


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[BdotHobbs]

Zion doesn’t have to watch Lonzo clank 3s all night anymore

[drobfan8]

Originally Posted by TheKillers11

Sad day for the Pels. Sad day for Zion’s future development tbh.


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They got D. Graham and saved a lot of $$$.

I like where they're at

[hairyangryfella]

Originally Posted by BdotHobbs

Zion doesn’t have to watch Lonzo clank 3s all night anymore

Who will shoot 3s for them though?
Not really sure how this team wants to play, is Zion gonna be the chief playmaker? And will Ingram accept that?

[JustinVerlander07]

Originally Posted by BdotHobbs

Zion doesn’t have to watch Lonzo clank 3s all night anymore

Yea, I mean 38% is a good 3 point shooter.

He can instead watch Graham shoot 38% on his 2 point shots. Much better!

[TheKillers11]

Considering this roster has been blown up already, I really think Ingram needs to be traded. He has zero visible chemistry with Zion, and I don’t think he wants to be the #2 man to Zion.

Trade him; find some sort of perimeter shooter.

The Pelicans will continue to be a joke if they don’t have a soul that can somewhat consistently hit 3s. That’s what Zion needs around him with the attention he draws in the paint.


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[Spartyon]

So should we start discussing the best teams for Zion to be traded to?


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[brock]

Originally Posted by Spartyon

So should we start discussing the best teams for Zion to be traded to?


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Probably more fun to speculate about which insta-model's DMs he'll show up in next.


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[regularp]

Originally Posted by BdotHobbs

Zion doesn’t have to watch Lonzo clank 3s all night anymore

Now he gets to watch Graham clank them.

[bigjbasketball]

Just got this Big Z back from PSA through PC SportsCards - very stoked this one got a 10, even if it’s not quite the $1K+ card it was at the peak. I pulled this out of a single cello pack back in November of last year, and I just got it back this week.




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[DiamondDonovan]

Originally Posted by bigjbasketball

Just got this Big Z back from PSA through PC SportsCards - very stoked this one got a 10, even if it’s not quite the $1K+ card it was at the peak. I pulled this out of a single cello pack back in November of last year, and I just got it back this week.




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That's a beauty...extra awesome since it got the 10!

I loved the Mosaic cellos...I pulled my Zion Silver and Pink camo from them but they ended up getting 9s.