Vladimir Guerrero, Jr.

[seabass97166]

The beauty of Trout is his cards were cheap for his first 2-3 years. Then even circa 2015-2106 you could have picked up cards that have went up 5x-10x this year. Already the best in the game and everyone passed up monster cards that were offered on blowout as little as 2 years ago.

The way these young phenoms of today are priced they have to come out of the gate and put up MVP numbers just so they dont go down. Let alone doubling or tripling that ain’t happening at these prices.

And god forbid they go through a rookie slump or pitchers adjust, then it’s onto the next one.

[Triple B]

I blame Mike Trout for these prices. Everyone has a “Mike Trout regret” story and they don’t want to miss out. It’s not sustainable but there is only one comparison and you have to think that the more expensive that guys like Guerrero, Soto and Acuna get, the higher Trout goes.

[oplum29]

Originally Posted by Triple B

I blame Mike Trout for these prices. Everyone has a “Mike Trout regret” story and they don’t want to miss out. It’s not sustainable but there is only one comparison and you have to think that the more expensive that guys like Guerrero, Soto and Acuna get, the higher Trout goes.

it's true.

just like Brady blew up the backup and late round QB pick cards for football, Trout and a little bit of Judge too have done this too guys like Vlad Jr.

I bought my Acuna last year in the summer for I believe $100, and last I checked, it was around $650 for the base BC auto, and on that same day I checked, he got hurt.

[ThoseBackPages]

hope hes ok

[mwash1983]

Saw Vlad Tonight but left before the injury, sounds like a hammy, but the guy's glove at 3rd sucks. He cost his team a win tonight due to his glove. He needs to be a 1st baseman or a DH.

[SaveMeTheGum]

Originally Posted by rngrdanny22

Let me guess.

You invest money in blue-chip companies with 2-3% dividends and thought the likes of Amazon, Apple, and Netflix were dumb investments.

Am I right?

LOL, you don't know much about business, do you. Companies like Amazon, Apple and Netflix are already playing in the big leagues, with actual, real world performance when they IPO.

I'm not saying prospecting doesn't have merit -- I'm just saying that buying at incredibly inflated prices in not smart. When a small start up has a ridiculous market cap based on no history and no performance compared to a top performing, established stock, I would advise against buying that as well.

I'm simply saying that buying a 2016 Bowman Chrome non-Auto Vladimir Guerrero PSA 10 Base card for $123 is absolutely insane. But everyone is entitled to do what they want with their money. And I'm glad that that is true, trust me.

[Hail2TheVictors]

Originally Posted by mwash1983

Saw Vlad Tonight but left before the injury, sounds like a hammy, but the guy's glove at 3rd sucks. He cost his team a win tonight due to his glove. He needs to be a 1st baseman or a DH.

To be fair, that's what everyone expects.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by mwash1983

Saw Vlad Tonight but left before the injury, sounds like a hammy, but the guy's glove at 3rd sucks. He cost his team a win tonight due to his glove. He needs to be a 1st baseman or a DH.

The just-turned 19 year old has some rough games at 3B in AA. Oh no!

I hope people panic after what is likely a minor injury. Sell to me for cheap!

[rngrdanny22]

Originally Posted by SaveMeTheGum

LOL, you don't know much about business, do you. Companies like Amazon, Apple and Netflix are already playing in the big leagues, with actual, real world performance when they IPO.

A little research goes a long way...

Amazon
IPO = May 1997
First Profit = Q4 2001 (A whopping $5M)


Netflix
IPO = May 2002
First Profit = Q2 2003 (A whopping $5M)


Apple
IPO = Dec 1980
First Profit = Unclear, but we all know their rocky history





The point I was trying to make was that if you want 2-3% consistent low-risk growth, go with vintage (which your signature suggests you do).

If you want to go for the homerun, go for the unsure thing. People probably thought that early investors in the above companies were crazy. Those that bought at "high" prices just after IPO have been rewarded handsomely if they've stuck it out.

Just like those that bought Trout in 2011, put them in a box, and forgot about them.

For arguments sake, I agree that $123 for Vlad Jr. base chrome is high. Especially when there are several BIN's on ebay for like $80-85.

[SaveMeTheGum]

Originally Posted by rngrdanny22

A little research goes a long way...

Amazon
IPO = May 1997
First Profit = Q4 2001 (A whopping $5M)


Netflix
IPO = May 2002
First Profit = Q2 2003 (A whopping $5M)


Apple
IPO = Dec 1980
First Profit = Unclear, but we all know their rocky history





The point I was trying to make was that if you want 2-3% consistent low-risk growth, go with vintage (which your signature suggests you do).

If you want to go for the homerun, go for the unsure thing. People probably thought that early investors in the above companies were crazy. Those that bought at "high" prices just after IPO have been rewarded handsomely if they've stuck it out.

Just like those that bought Trout in 2011, put them in a box, and forgot about them.

For arguments sake, I agree that $123 for Vlad Jr. base chrome is high. Especially when there are several BIN's on ebay for like $80-85.

We're arguing 2 different things. I'm talking about value. Sure, buying Amazon and Netflix were great buys at IPO. But if you bought Amazon in 1997 and paid today's Amazon value (or more for it), then it was a stupid buy. Guerrero may someday put up the performance that justifies his prices today, but comparing him to Trout is crazy. He's a 2.5 to 3 tool player at best right now -- and that's exactly where most of the projections have him. Sure, it's possible he becomes the greatest hitter in the history of baseball, but hope isn't a very good long term strategy.

If it were possible to short the baseball card market, all you'd have to do is bet against every top 5 prospect and you'd be rich.

[ThoseBackPages]

yea, $123 seems crazy

but thats like 3 or 4 blasters now

[KhalDrogo]

Your AMZN IPO comparison would suggest someone spent 91x what AMZN was currently selling for ($18 vs $1641). I agree that anybody buying a Vlad Bowman Chrome PSA 10 for $9100 is stupid.

[coltsfan23]

Originally Posted by SaveMeTheGum

If it were possible to short the baseball card market, all you'd have to do is bet against every top 5 prospect and you'd be rich.

Actually no, you'd have gotten absolutely crushed. With the skyrocketing valuations of prospect cards, particularly top 5, I couldn't imagine a much worse historical result in this market. Combine that with the massive illiquidity leading to even further short squeezes, and that'd have been an epic way to lose tons of money. And no, you can't just hold onto shorts that you're getting crushed on for years. Clearly you don't understand how stocks work, so don't go there.

I think I understand where you're trying to go and I (and others) probably would even agree more than you know. You're just doing an exceedingly terrible job at explaining anything. Just stop posting. Please.

[SaveMeTheGum]

Top 7 Prospects of 2016:

Corey Seager, SS
Byron Buxton
Lucas Giolito
J.P. Crawford
Nomar Mazara
Julio Urias
Yoan Moncada

Yup... no money to be made shorting there. Imagine the fortune that could be made if you could have shorted Andrew Luck...

[Triple B]

Vlad Jr was just named Eastern League Player of the Month...

https://www.milb.com/new-hampshire/n...th/c-279726010

[WalterAZ31]

Originally Posted by SaveMeTheGum

Top 7 Prospects of 2016:

Corey Seager, SS
Byron Buxton
Lucas Giolito
J.P. Crawford
Nomar Mazara
Julio Urias
Yoan Moncada

Yup... no money to be made shorting there. Imagine the fortune that could be made if you could have shorted Andrew Luck...

yeah, your sig literally makes zero sense

[jrg1128]

Just cause you buy into someone it doesn't mean that you are holding for 5 years lol. You could pay $900 for a gem Vlad and if he got called up 2 weeks later I can guarantee that you would make a few hundred if not more. It doesn't matter how high his price is before his call up, it's still gonna rise.

Prospecting is short term for me, not long term.

[seabass97166]

What is he hits .200 and struggles? People can return them, no?

[jrg1128]

Originally Posted by seabass97166

What is he hits .200 and struggles? People can return them, no?

You can always sell on here for 15% less, still make your profit, and not have to worry about it.

[shortstopguy12]

Originally Posted by jrg1128

You can always sell on here for 15% less, still make your profit, and not have to worry about it.

That will be my plan in the end... or COMC and take my 20% cash out fee. You can return on COMC, but it is reviewed and you only have 7 days. They review each case seperatley and it would have to be for some sort of damage. I have sold thousands of cards on COMC and havent had a return yet

[ThoseBackPages]

or you can buy from COMC on ebay and return in 6 months

[mkal411]

Vlad, Jr. Injured in Minor League Game

[Jaypers]

Only out for a day or two.

Chris Bumbaca @BOOMbaca
Double-A New Hampshire manager John Schneider to @MiLB. "He feels fine, we're just being cautious with it. Just to make sure whenever he's back to be full strength. He checks out fine, but with him and all of our players, we're just being careful and making sure he's good to go.". The team would not comment on what part of body/leg is affected

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by mkal411

Vlad, Jr. Injured in Minor League Game

It’s over!

[moosetequila]

Originally Posted by mkal411

Vlad, Jr. Injured in Minor League Game

WOW, sounds like a hammy, could be knee related.