The Official NBA Regular Season Thread—-21/22 Edition

[daeve]

Originally Posted by brothertona

Really hoping his value drops a little farther and the Hawks can get him for Danilo and some change.

where is he going to stand on offense? in Capela's lane? It also pushes out Collins further - not that he can't shoot, but a big part of his game is slashing in for lobs and offensive boards - Simmons will drag his defender down there and clog up everything.

Simmons is a great individual defender, but he's not a team D anchor like Capela is.

I really don't see how need him, how we'd use him, and how we'd pay whatever price Morey wants [plus match salaries].

This is a very young team that just went to the ECF - this is the type of team you run it back with. And not ruin chemistry to go grab a guy who can't even play in a crunchtime playoff game. If we want to sell on a 3-for-1 type deal ton consolidate talent, we should grab a star vet who can create offense in the big games, which is the exact opposite of what Simmons is.

[drobfan8]

Originally Posted by LC2nine10

And kill other teams interest in him. They want super star assets for a star player who is broken. At this point I don't think they sniff what PG got.

I don't think he's actually broken. He's just going through a break up. It's not like he stopped being a dominant defender and passer..he shot better from the free throw line last season.

I still don't know how this ends though. There's nobody really available for them to get better.

I don't think Simmons will ever be a Championship team level PG personally, I don't know, maybe he can. People act like that's an easy thing..

Originally Posted by Kobefan

Please no, Hawks already have a non-shooter in Capela and his passing skill is not necessary with Trae Young. What the Hawks need is a dominant scoring co-star, like Beal or Lillard. Btw, why hasn't the Wizards traded Beal yet? They gave away Russell for almost nothing, so I would think they're on rebuild mode.

Beal somehow keeps saying he wants to be in Washintgton. It's baffling to me. Dude is completely wasting his prime years.



I'm still hoping Minny throw D. Lo and a bunch of parts Philly's way.

Or maybe Philly start the season without Simmons and they do well. Embiid should be the MVP. Maxey and Shake can ball.

[asujbl]

“League sources say that Cleveland continues to keep its hat in the ring to try to pry Ben Simmons from the Sixers.”

- @TheSteinLine

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by asujbl

“League sources say that Cleveland continues to keep its hat in the ring to try to pry Ben Simmons from the Sixers.”

- @TheSteinLine

If it involves Sexton, Love and a couple protected 1sts I’m all in

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

If it involves Sexton, Love and a couple protected 1sts I’m all in

I’d have to imagine that’s the offer

[daeve]

the last one that just made sense in my head...

Dragic in Toronto and Turner in Indy still seem like situations to be settled, so seems like this could work.



Indy could start Dragic-Lamb-Holiday-simmons-sabonis with Levert as 6th man... that's a pretty good combo of shooting + defense.

Toronto finally gets a good center that fits the timeline of their core... and Morey gets about as good of fit + talent as he can hope for at this point... this is also based off recent news that Warren's foot is healing slowly and he is without a timetable for return... so presumably he's a guy Morey can buy low on, and who should at least be a contributor come playoff-time.

[brothertona]

In March, CNBC's Jabari Young reported the NBA might seek a "$75 billion rights package, up from its current $24 billion deal" when its contracts with Disney DIS +0.5% and WarnerMedia expires after the 2024-25 season. "One person familiar with sports media deals" told Young that the NBA "could get $70.2 billion over nine years, using metrics including total viewer hours, which helps networks determine the value of sports league rights."

[Kobefan]

Originally Posted by brothertona

In March, CNBC's Jabari Young reported the NBA might seek a "$75 billion rights package, up from its current $24 billion deal" when its contracts with Disney DIS +0.5% and WarnerMedia expires after the 2024-25 season. "One person familiar with sports media deals" told Young that the NBA "could get $70.2 billion over nine years, using metrics including total viewer hours, which helps networks determine the value of sports league rights."

I thought the number of viewers to the games went down significantly, with only viewerships to highlight clips went up, so how can they charge more?

[jcardstore]

Originally Posted by Kobefan

I thought the number of viewers to the games went down significantly, with only viewerships to highlight clips went up, so how can they charge more?

because they have all the leverage.

[brothertona]

Yep, NBA has all of the leverage. The salary cap is likely to go insane.

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by Kobefan

I thought the number of viewers to the games went down significantly, with only viewerships to highlight clips went up, so how can they charge more?

The eyes they get on the product across all media platforms is second to none.

The entirety of TV viewers has decreased. While the size of the total potential audience is shrinking, the NBA is gobbling up more market share of the TV audience than ever before.

Past: 100 million total viewers, 5 million watching NBA.
Now: 50 million total viewers, 4 million watching NBA.

Even though the above are just random numbers, this is what's happening. NBA's viewers declined, but not inline with overall TV viewership. Where they may have had a 5% TV market share, they now how an 8% TV market share.

NBA has all the leverage, because if you want guaranteed eyeballs and the bulk of TV eyeballs, you need the NBA.

If you want live TV watchers, sports are the only way to get them. I don't watch TV, but if I'm watching The Challenge it's been DVR'd and I'm fast forwarding through the commercials. NBA Finals, I'm watching live and so I'll see the commercials.

[Spacemanspif]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

The eyes they get on the product across all media platforms is second to none.

The entirety of TV viewers has decreased. While the size of the total potential audience is shrinking, the NBA is gobbling up more market share of the TV audience than ever before.

Past: 100 million total viewers, 5 million watching NBA.
Now: 50 million total viewers, 4 million watching NBA.

Even though the above are just random numbers, this is what's happening. NBA's viewers declined, but not inline with overall TV viewership. Where they may have had a 5% TV market share, they now how an 8% TV market share.

NBA has all the leverage, because if you want guaranteed eyeballs and the bulk of TV eyeballs, you need the NBA.

If you want live TV watchers, sports are the only way to get them. I don't watch TV, but if I'm watching The Challenge it's been DVR'd and I'm fast forwarding through the commercials. NBA Finals, I'm watching live and so I'll see the commercials.

Fantastic explanation Geech. The doom and gloom always gloat about declining viewership, while always avoiding the fact that all TV is down. Live sports are the only thing that people feel like they absolutely have to watch live. More money for the cap is good, hopefully this time they graduate it in so we don’t end up with another KD to the Warriors situation… Unless it’s Zion to the Warriors

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

If it involves Sexton, Love and a couple protected 1sts I’m all in

Originally Posted by asujbl

I’d have to imagine that’s the offer

Also heard Lauri's name being floated...

Not sure how the $'s would work, but Sexton, Love, Lauri, and Picks would give the Cavs a lineup of:

Garland
Simmons
Okoro
Mobley
Allen..


Not saying that's a perfect lineup, but it gives you a lot of hope moving forward.

[Kobefan]

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

The eyes they get on the product across all media platforms is second to none.

The entirety of TV viewers has decreased. While the size of the total potential audience is shrinking, the NBA is gobbling up more market share of the TV audience than ever before.

Past: 100 million total viewers, 5 million watching NBA.
Now: 50 million total viewers, 4 million watching NBA.

Even though the above are just random numbers, this is what's happening. NBA's viewers declined, but not inline with overall TV viewership. Where they may have had a 5% TV market share, they now how an 8% TV market share.

NBA has all the leverage, because if you want guaranteed eyeballs and the bulk of TV eyeballs, you need the NBA.

If you want live TV watchers, sports are the only way to get them. I don't watch TV, but if I'm watching The Challenge it's been DVR'd and I'm fast forwarding through the commercials. NBA Finals, I'm watching live and so I'll see the commercials.

So that means the tv networks are getting a smaller profit margin than before, right?

[Kobefan]

Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

Fantastic explanation Geech. The doom and gloom always gloat about declining viewership, while always avoiding the fact that all TV is down. Live sports are the only thing that people feel like they absolutely have to watch live. More money for the cap is good, hopefully this time they graduate it in so we don’t end up with another KD to the Warriors situation… Unless it’s Zion to the Warriors

Honestly, I'm thinking the opposite, more money is bad, especially since nowadays we have so many players who are prima donna.

[Ferg1945]

Didn't know where else to put this.... watching MNF they were showing some peope at the game.

Is this Myles Turner behind A'ja Wilson?

[dunkindutchmen]

Originally Posted by daeve

the last one that just made sense in my head...

Dragic in Toronto and Turner in Indy still seem like situations to be settled, so seems like this could work.



Indy could start Dragic-Lamb-Holiday-simmons-sabonis with Levert as 6th man... that's a pretty good combo of shooting + defense.

Toronto finally gets a good center that fits the timeline of their core... and Morey gets about as good of fit + talent as he can hope for at this point... this is also based off recent news that Warren's foot is healing slowly and he is without a timetable for return... so presumably he's a guy Morey can buy low on, and who should at least be a contributor come playoff-time.

Don't they play Boucher at center? He's better than Turner in a lot of ways.

[brothertona]

This is fun, my spunky Atlanta Hawks destroyed the process.

https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/sta...716325381?s=20

[ClipsandVols]

Originally Posted by Ferg1945

Didn't know where else to put this.... watching MNF they were showing some peope at the game.

Is this Myles Turner behind A'ja Wilson?

LOL That's Chelsea Gray (Aces teammate)

[ClipsandVols]

Originally Posted by brothertona

This is fun, my spunky Atlanta Hawks destroyed the process.

https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/sta...716325381?s=20

This Ben Simmons saga is crazy. Still can't believe Doc threw him under the bus to the media though.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by brothertona

This is fun, my spunky Atlanta Hawks destroyed the process.

https://twitter.com/SportsCenter/sta...716325381?s=20

[brothertona]

I can't believe Doc did it as well, I mean he's not a great coach so eh but man - who does that to your star athlete.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by brothertona

I can't believe Doc did it as well, I mean he's not a great coach so eh but man - who does that to your star athlete.

I mean, we've been seeing it for years...

The team could just never be constructed properly. I know the numbers when Ben and Embiid on the floor are very good, but it's like they got caught up building a team around two different strategies instead of one solid one.

Tobias is a good fit with Embiid, terrible with Ben. Curry a great fit with Ben.

Hoping they part ways soon and end this experiment.

Although, the funniest scenario (which I couldn't see happening) is if Ben came back so he wouldn't get fined and began launching 3's with reckless abandon, even if he made they a low clip.... one can wish!

[escapegoat]

wish he could end up on the magic somehow.

[Zedlaw]

I would be more excited if Simmons takes the Butler approach and demands to run the B squad while shutting down Embiid in the post. Sitting out and getting fined doesn’t make much sense. Let’s see the fire Ben.