Topps out---Fanatics in - Page 22

BBases31 · 08-19-2021, 05:23 PM

On the bright side, there's a hard deadline in 5 years of when I can stop wasting time on this hobby

babybull · 08-19-2021, 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lseecon

If nobody wants or buys "Fanatics" brand baseball cards, I am guessing that Fanatics tries to buy or license the "Topps" brand or name from Topps like Topps did with Bowman and Panini did with Donruss, and other "brands"

Maybe they even hire a lot of Topps employees.

I just cant see the Topps and Bowman brands dying as it relates to baseball cards.
If there truly are no Topps or Bowman baseball cards in the future, then I predict alot of baseball collectors will be forever lost.

Too many collectors will want to buy Topps cards.

Why wouldn't Fanatics just buy Topps?

notoriousrmb · 08-19-2021, 05:24 PM

So isn't this what everyone wanted?

No distributors. No breakers. Online sales to the masses. Get rid of Topps, their service sucks. Get rid of Panini, they suck too.

New models. New products. New company.

Be careful what you wish for.

crysman2000 · 08-19-2021, 05:24 PM

https://sports.yahoo.com/mlb-mlbpa-r...204959016.html

MLB has partnered with Topps for 70 years.

CRAZINESS!!!

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Skunkbush · 08-19-2021, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoriousrmb

So isn't this what everyone wanted?

No distributors. No breakers. Online sales to the masses. Get rid of Topps, their service sucks. Get rid of Panini, they suck too.

New models. New products. New company.

Be careful what you wish for.

That's exactly what everyone on these forums wanted.

WalterAZ31 · 08-19-2021, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoriousrmb

So isn't this what everyone wanted?

No distributors. No breakers. Online sales to the masses. Get rid of Topps, their service sucks. Get rid of Panini, they suck too.

New models. New products. New company.

Be careful what you wish for.

and the bots will get everything

Bob Ross · 08-19-2021, 05:25 PM

Topps and Bowman will be to Fanatics what Donruss is to Panini.

PSA2Pac · 08-19-2021, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jjrpilot

Get ready boyzzzzzz

Silly RPA rookies are gonna be in baseball. I don't get why all the football and basketball guys love RPAs...none are game worn.

Nobody likes that shxt lol

IntergalacticSp · 08-19-2021, 05:26 PM

For those who can't read beyond the WSJ paywall:

"Topps paid the MLBPA $20.4 million last year, the most of any MLBPA licensee, according to the union’s annual report to the U.S. Department of Labor. The NFLPA earned $24.2 million from Panini, according to its latest filing.

Clark wrote in his memo that the undisclosed total value of the MLBPA deal is more than 10 times bigger than any deal the union has ever struck. He added that it is part of a series of recent deals that will generate nearly $2 billion through 2045.

All three unions—the MLBPA, NBPA and NFLPA—will have stakes in the entity that will now have control of the most lucrative sports trading card assets in the country. MLB and the NBA have also struck deals with the new business and will also have a stake."

bloodwings19 · 08-19-2021, 05:27 PM

Pretty soon New Era baseball hat is next.

Cavaliercards · 08-19-2021, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoriousrmb

So isn't this what everyone wanted?

No distributors. No breakers. Online sales to the masses. Get rid of Topps, their service sucks. Get rid of Panini, they suck too.

New models. New products. New company.

Be careful what you wish for.

Gonna still be breakers, this actually benefits more smaller breakers.

whitmm · 08-19-2021, 05:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Ross

Topps and Bowman will be to Fanatics what Donruss is to Panini.

Fun fact, Panini did a Donruss Fanatics mega box last year,

boston12 · 08-19-2021, 05:28 PM

This really is brutal

auctionjmm · 08-19-2021, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bob Ross

Topps and Bowman will be to Fanatics what Donruss is to Panini.

It's gotta be that way now or the hobby is dead. Fanatics needs to own the rights to "Prizm" and "Chrome" and "Bowman" and "National Treasures" and everything else instead of inventing all new names.

notoriousrmb · 08-19-2021, 05:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cavaliercards

Gonna still be breakers, this actually benefits more smaller breakers.

With no distributors, how will they get product?

LCS's will be the next to go.

Fanatics has everything in place to be the one stop shop. They have retail stores, they have online distribution models.

Its going to be the Walmart of trading cards.

Cam Brady · 08-19-2021, 05:30 PM

Here is another angle.

If Topps, foolishly IMO, continues with their plan to go public Fanatics could always go the merger route or even hostile take over.

I still think that they most likely scenario is Topps leasing their brand name and getting yearly revenue for doing nothing.

CicadaMound · 08-19-2021, 05:30 PM

This kills

League- and Union-licensed card companies
Distributors
Wax-reliant LCSes
Distributor-reliant breakers

This may harm

Autograph authenticators
Autograph-reliant show operators
Athlete-licensed card companies (SAGE, Leaf, etc.)

This does not kill

Singles dealers
Auction houses
Third party graders
Major retailers
Card-reliant show operators
Bot operators

k13 · 08-19-2021, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

Chrome refractors and Topps flagship rare will increase substantially in value over the next 5 years.

Happened with Topps basketball, it will happen again. If there is a superstar rookie class in 2022 or 2023, those cards will become iconic if it's a deep RC logo class or Bowman Chrome class.

Basketball is different.

No one cares about topps football/hockey now.

Doodlegrass · 08-19-2021, 05:30 PM

As a fanatics employee- I can’t disclose what dept or my position - but this is exciting and great designs/ideas are already in the works for the boomers that will refuse to buy because they blindly follow a company that ran out of ideas a decade+ ago

notoriousrmb · 08-19-2021, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CicadaMound

This does not kill

Card-reliant show operators

That National is gonna look pretty good with no wax sellers, no Topps booth, no Panini booth....just a big ol Fanatics shop in the center of the room with a bunch of vintage sellers around the outside.

smanzari · 08-19-2021, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doodlegrass

As a fanatics employee- I can’t disclose what dept or my position - but this is exciting and great designs/ideas are already in the works for the boomers that will refuse to buy because they blindly follow a company that ran out of ideas a decade+ ago

Shots Fired! Its like switching to Pepsi after drinking Coke for 25+ years - it can look nice AF but its initially going to look like a polished turd to me TBH

kyle1707 · 08-19-2021, 05:32 PM

Seeing stuff about nfl and nba also

GMRide27 · 08-19-2021, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doodlegrass

As a fanatics employee- I can’t disclose what dept or my position - but this is exciting and great designs/ideas are already in the works for the boomers that will refuse to buy because they blindly follow a company that ran out of ideas a decade+ ago

No.

No.

Cavaliercards · 08-19-2021, 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoriousrmb

With no distributors, how will they get product?

LCS's will be the next to go.

Fanatics has everything in place to be the one stop shop. They have retail stores, they have online distribution models.

Its going to be the Walmart of trading cards.

They just order cases from Fanatics.

LCS will be fine as well.

whitmm · 08-19-2021, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notoriousrmb

With no distributors, how will they get product?

LCS's will be the next to go.

Fanatics has everything in place to be the one stop shop. They have retail stores, they have online distribution models.

Its going to be the Walmart of trading cards.

Pretty sure most breakers aren't getting products from distributors unless they are attached to a store already

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crysman2000 Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Northern VA Posts: 463 crysman2000	https://sports.yahoo.com/mlb-mlbpa-r...204959016.html MLB has partnered with Topps for 70 years. CRAZINESS!!! Sent from my SM-G781V using Tapatalk __________________ Flickr: https://www.flickr.com/photos/154305152@N05/albums

08-19-2021, 05:30 PM	#542
CicadaMound Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: Ohio Posts: 561 CicadaMound	This kills League- and Union-licensed card companies Distributors Wax-reliant LCSes Distributor-reliant breakers This may harm Autograph authenticators Autograph-reliant show operators Athlete-licensed card companies (SAGE, Leaf, etc.) This does not kill Singles dealers Auction houses Third party graders Major retailers Card-reliant show operators Bot operators

08-19-2021, 05:23 PM	#526
BBases31 Banned Join Date: Aug 2019 Posts: 7,603	On the bright side, there's a hard deadline in 5 years of when I can stop wasting time on this hobby

08-19-2021, 05:24 PM	#528
notoriousrmb Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 6,825	So isn't this what everyone wanted? No distributors. No breakers. Online sales to the masses. Get rid of Topps, their service sucks. Get rid of Panini, they suck too. New models. New products. New company. Be careful what you wish for.

08-19-2021, 05:25 PM	#532
Bob Ross Member Join Date: Oct 2019 Posts: 5,265	Topps and Bowman will be to Fanatics what Donruss is to Panini.

08-19-2021, 05:26 PM	#534
IntergalacticSp Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 184 intergalacticspace	For those who can't read beyond the WSJ paywall: "Topps paid the MLBPA $20.4 million last year, the most of any MLBPA licensee, according to the union’s annual report to the U.S. Department of Labor. The NFLPA earned $24.2 million from Panini, according to its latest filing. Clark wrote in his memo that the undisclosed total value of the MLBPA deal is more than 10 times bigger than any deal the union has ever struck. He added that it is part of a series of recent deals that will generate nearly $2 billion through 2045. All three unions—the MLBPA, NBPA and NFLPA—will have stakes in the entity that will now have control of the most lucrative sports trading card assets in the country. MLB and the NBA have also struck deals with the new business and will also have a stake."

08-19-2021, 05:27 PM	#535
bloodwings19 Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Posts: 2,989	Pretty soon New Era baseball hat is next.

08-19-2021, 05:28 PM	#538
boston12 Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Posts: 3,282	This really is brutal

08-19-2021, 05:30 PM	#541
Cam Brady Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 497	Here is another angle. If Topps, foolishly IMO, continues with their plan to go public Fanatics could always go the merger route or even hostile take over. I still think that they most likely scenario is Topps leasing their brand name and getting yearly revenue for doing nothing.

08-19-2021, 05:30 PM	#544
Doodlegrass Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 562 Dakinabox	As a fanatics employee- I can’t disclose what dept or my position - but this is exciting and great designs/ideas are already in the works for the boomers that will refuse to buy because they blindly follow a company that ran out of ideas a decade+ ago

08-19-2021, 05:32 PM	#547
kyle1707 Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Posts: 20,458	Seeing stuff about nfl and nba also