Is FANATICS in over their head?

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by cholodolo

And I'm not sure Fanatics cared one way or the other. They offer a turn-key service for their clients -- running of a retail team shop and retail merchandise kiosks around the arena.

Given the scale of Fanatics' business and portfolio, they were probably ok with the news that the Sharks want to keep the margin on merchandise sold in-house.

Yes, but if Fanatics' business model is to provide cookie-cut services and products on a large scale, they still want to make sure their providing a satisfactory and valuable service to their clients. If their products and services are alienating a large amount of client costumers, one would assume they are in fact providing negative value to their clients and damaging their brands.

When I think of scale, I think of Amazon and Walmart. Both companies dominate their industries by providing lower prices, convenience, and satisfactory products. Fanatics' model is to cut costs, raise prices, and lower quality.

[ewokpelts]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

Lol That's what they're banking on. Just like Disney banked on people continuing to pay to see their films and TV shows.

There are similarities between Fanatics and Disney. Both try to monopolize their respective industries. Both pump out blanned, uninspired, homogeneous products.

Now Disney is a dumpster fire. Let's see where Fanatics ends up.

Amazing. Every word you said makes no sense.

[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by ewokpelts

Amazing. Every word you said makes no sense.

Every word I posted makes no sense? Like, it's just gibberish to you?

Because I thought my points were clear and concise. Disney, like Fanatics, tries to dominate their industry. They banked on their monopoly for success. they made gobs of money 4 years ago. But now they are failing miserably. They have been losing a lot of costumers and money. They have been firing executives and postponing and cancelling releases. The star villain of their MCU franchise just got arrested for alleged physical assault. I currently equate them to a dumpster fire.

Both Disney and Fanatics are known for poor quality. Disney films and TV shows have poor CGI and stupid, corny stories. Fanatics produces cheap quality apparel with bland designs.

[Anarchy99]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

Every word I posted makes no sense? Like, it's just gibberish to you?

Because I thought my points were clear and concise. Disney, like Fanatics, tries to dominate their industry. They banked on their monopoly for success. they made gobs of money 4 years ago. But now they are failing miserably. They have been losing a lot of costumers and money. They have been firing executives and postponing and cancelling releases. The star villain of their MCU franchise just got arrested for alleged physical assault. I currently equate them to a dumpster fire.

Both Disney and Fanatics are known for poor quality. Disney films and TV shows have poor CGI and stupid, corny stories. Fanatics produces cheap quality apparel with bland designs.

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[fabiani12333]

Originally Posted by Anarchy99

found a geeks & gamers fan

This has nothing to do with politics or culture. Disney is a failing business -- plain and simple. It's about the bottom line. Any nerd can comment about anything on the internet, but the numbers speak for themselves.

I could comment on Disney's politics and social activism, but that just detracts from my arguments about how costumer satisfaction ultimately matters for the viability of a business trying to sell products or services.

[thenightman]

Heard a rumor that Fanatics is negotiating with LeBron. I wonder if that's the big surprise.

[Jolten Joe]

Thoughts on this ?

So the 2022 MVP Buyback program ends on March 31st the same day Stadium Club Chrome was supposed to be released. Well apparently now SCC has been delayed until April 5th and some are claiming it's so people couldn't use their buy back cash credit towards SCC.


To me it's just more proof they know exactly what they are doing and not in over their heads at all. They are the Cerebral Assassins of Trading Cards. It's all about the game and how you play it.

[no10pin]

Originally Posted by Jolten Joe

Thoughts on this ?

So the 2022 MVP Buyback program ends on March 31st the same day Stadium Club Chrome was supposed to be released. Well apparently now SCC has been delayed until April 5th and some are claiming it's so people couldn't use their buy back cash credit towards SCC.


To me it's just more proof they know exactly what they are doing and not in over their heads at all. They are the Cerebral Assassins of Trading Cards. It's all about the game and how you play it.

I'm not following this at all. You don't have to use up the credit by the 31st, you just have to have turned the eligible cards in by then.

People can just use their credit on April 5th instead of Friday if that's what they want to spend it on.

[Jolten Joe]

Originally Posted by no10pin

I'm not following this at all. You don't have to use up the credit by the 31st, you just have to have turned the eligible cards in by then.

People can just use their credit on April 5th instead of Friday if that's what they want to spend it on.

Maybe but I think from the way I've read it is it's up to the individual LCS how they want to run the promotion. Alot of them ended it early for the very reason that SCC was supposed to release on 3-31 the same day the program officially expires. For instance if you go to SCC website they already have a note saying the program has ended and it's only 3-29.

[no10pin]

Originally Posted by Jolten Joe

Maybe but I think from the way I've read it is it's up to the individual LCS how they want to run the promotion. Alot of them ended it early for the very reason that SCC was supposed to release on 3-31 the same day the program officially expires. For instance if you go to SCC website they already have a note saying the program has ended and it's only 3-29.

It's definitely up to each LCS how long they want to accept, or if they want to accept at all. The one closest to my house does not, so I just sent mine to Blowout.

I'm still not following why they would delay a product by a week to keep people from using a credit that doesn't expire.

[Jolten Joe]

Originally Posted by no10pin

It's definitely up to each LCS how long they want to accept, or if they want to accept at all. The one closest to my house does not, so I just sent mine to Blowout.

I'm still not following why they would delay a product by a week to keep people from using a credit that doesn't expire.

Credit can expire again at the discretion of the particular store. I don't know the complete details but I do know they can legally choose to say any credit given towards the promotion must be used by such and such day and time. It's basically like a coupon where you can use this coupon for $2 off this item until this date and after this date it's void.

Now that said it wouldn't be in their best interest to do that and piss off their customers but legally they have every right.

And the benefit is so that LCS don't lose money on a new product by customers using store credit.

[no10pin]

Originally Posted by Jolten Joe

Credit can expire again at the discretion of the particular store. I don't know the complete details but I do know they can legally choose to say any credit given towards the promotion must be used by such and such day and time. It's basically like a coupon where you can use this coupon for $2 off this item until this date and after this date it's void.

Now that said it wouldn't be in their best interest to do that and piss off their customers but legally they have every right.

And the benefit is so that LCS don't lose money on a new product by customers using store credit.

My understanding of how it works for an LCS is that they give their customers credit to buy whatever, and then they get their money back from Topps when they buy product. I'm pretty sure the shop by me doesn't have a direct wholesale account with Topps, so that's why they didn't do it.

For participating shops, as long as they keep everything straight, it shouldn't matter to them what the credit gets spent on. They get fully reimbursed for every card they turn in, so it should net out evenly and hopefully drive some business for them.

[HYPTZEMDSTRPLES]

Hope and pray for the best. But expect the worst.

[ewokpelts]

Originally Posted by thenightman

Heard a rumor that Fanatics is negotiating with LeBron. I wonder if that's the big surprise.

Unless that’s to buy his stake in upper deck, what can they negotiate with him?
His current player rights are with panini, and his autograph and memorabilia business is with ud.

[ewokpelts]

Originally Posted by Jolten Joe

Thoughts on this ?

So the 2022 MVP Buyback program ends on March 31st the same day Stadium Club Chrome was supposed to be released. Well apparently now SCC has been delayed until April 5th and some are claiming it's so people couldn't use their buy back cash credit towards SCC.


To me it's just more proof they know exactly what they are doing and not in over their heads at all. They are the Cerebral Assassins of Trading Cards. It's all about the game and how you play it.

That’s a load of dung.

The program was credit at the store until 3/31. The stores get paid by topps after they send them to COMC. The customer gets the credit up front.

Nowhere did it state how the Customer had to use the money. I know some store gave it out as a gift card, and my LCS gave me instant credit off new wax.

[ewokpelts]

Originally Posted by fabiani12333

Every word I posted makes no sense? Like, it's just gibberish to you?

Because I thought my points were clear and concise. Disney, like Fanatics, tries to dominate their industry. They banked on their monopoly for success. they made gobs of money 4 years ago. But now they are failing miserably. They have been losing a lot of costumers and money. They have been firing executives and postponing and cancelling releases. The star villain of their MCU franchise just got arrested for alleged physical assault. I currently equate them to a dumpster fire.

Both Disney and Fanatics are known for poor quality. Disney films and TV shows have poor CGI and stupid, corny stories. Fanatics produces cheap quality apparel with bland designs.

I was trying not to call you an idiot, but here we are. Dealing with an idiot.

Disney isn’t a monopoly. Far from it. But you keep on being “woke”, snowflake.

[BayAreaChris]

Michael Rubin just posted on Instagram that he’s at the new 15 acre fanatics collectibles facility in Dallas. It’s empty, so don’t think it’s an existing facility used for cards. Anywhere hear anything about this?

Are they planning to print there?

[AstrosFan17]

Originally Posted by ewokpelts

I was trying not to call you an idiot, but here we are. Dealing with an idiot.

Disney isn’t a monopoly. Far from it. But you keep on being “woke”, snowflake.

Now THIS post makes absolutely no sense what-so-ever.

What does being "woke" or not have to do with anything he/she posted? Do you have an issue reading the words they posted? The analogy between fanatics and Disney is actually quite a good one.

There's only one idiot in this exchange and it is not me or fabiani12333...

[notoriousrmb]

Originally Posted by BayAreaChris

Michael Rubin just posted on Instagram that he’s at the new 15 acre fanatics collectibles facility in Dallas. It’s empty, so don’t think it’s an existing facility used for cards. Anywhere hear anything about this?

Are they planning to print there?

Probably a warehouse so they can store all the cases they are holding back for price increases since they no longer allocate to shops.

Fanatics wants to sell it all and distribute on their own...going to need a place to store all the overpriced wax as it sits on their website until they start dumping it a year later to the Big 3.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by BayAreaChris

Michael Rubin just posted on Instagram that he’s at the new 15 acre fanatics collectibles facility in Dallas. It’s empty, so don’t think it’s an existing facility used for cards. Anywhere hear anything about this?

Are they planning to print there?

Rubin making big moves. Demand doesn’t exist to match current supply, but at least we won’t have releases delayed by 12+ months.

[TawkCards]

It's ironic but what they need is E-Topps.

But not just with the weekly exclusive cards like they did in the early 2000s, they need to actually allow people to bust and store wax like E-Pack.

Fanatics basically bought Topps at the peak, I'm sure they're stressed. Probably will delay the IPO a bit.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by TawkCards

Fanatics basically bought Topps at the peak, I'm sure they're stressed. Probably will delay the IPO a bit.

They did.

But what they really need to do is get back to basics and get focused on producing good products with good quality control at good prices.

Right now they are shooting themselves in the foot by releasing waaaaaaay too many ancillary products. Maybe if they weren't releasing curated on-demand products every week, they would have been able to get a key mainstream product like Heritage out on time.

[SupermanBrandon]

Originally Posted by mfw13

They did.

But what they really need to do is get back to basics and get focused on producing good products with good quality control at good prices.

Right now they are shooting themselves in the foot by releasing waaaaaaay too many ancillary products. Maybe if they weren't releasing curated on-demand products every week, they would have been able to get a key mainstream product like Heritage out on time.

This is the key. Quality! Stuff people actually want to collect. Without the end users (the actual collectors) you have nothing but a game of gambling on the hot potato. That game ends eventually. Collectors, on the other hand, are in for life.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by mfw13

They did.

But what they really need to do is get back to basics and get focused on producing good products with good quality control at good prices.

Right now they are shooting themselves in the foot by releasing waaaaaaay too many ancillary products. Maybe if they weren't releasing curated on-demand products every week, they would have been able to get a key mainstream product like Heritage out on time.

That doesn’t work for Fanatics to achieve what they want in the time they need to. Fanatics needs to propel cards back to the 2021 highs.

[ThoseBackPages]

FanaticsLive is a new Twitter account which should transition into Fanatics TV eventually.

There is no need to "slow down and make better products"

they have big bills to pay.

Things are fine, Breakers are burning through Bowman and all that other new crap