2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[MIRRABB]

Originally Posted by TheWrightStuff

He needs one of the three AZ, WI or MI. If he wins one of those three states then he will pull it off. PA, NC and GA I think are in the bag.

WI and MI are for Biden by this point. No chance. AZ is a bit up in the air. PA also realistically. NC and GA Trump but close, especially GA

[Boo]

Originally Posted by Astros19

I think a very real positive to come out of this is even if Trump loses, the fact that it is as close as it is. If Republicans can find a decent candidate for 2024, I think the tables could turn towards the right. Granted a lot could happen in the next 4 years, but Trump had a lot of obstacles, including himself, to make the 2020 race as close as it was.
Perhaps it's wishful thinking on my part, we shall see.

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No doubt. You have to think almost any candidate against Biden would have won in a landslide.

[Jay9Suited]

Overall: -300/+200

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by Jay9Suited

Overall: -300/+200

Yea, that's just crazy. Really not far off from where we started the night.

[mr10pin]

Originally Posted by Astros19

I think a very real positive to come out of this is even if Trump loses, the fact that it is as close as it is. If Republicans can find a decent candidate for 2024, I think the tables could turn towards the right. Granted a lot could happen in the next 4 years, but Trump had a lot of obstacles, including himself, to make the 2020 race as close as it was.
Perhaps it's wishful thinking on my part, we shall see.

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I commented to someone this morning (and I'm sure someone in this thread has said it)...THIS election being this close should really be a signal to the Democratic Party that you need to quit pandering to the FAR left. If they can't get enough Centrist Republicans to move away from Donald J. Trump of all people, then they are missing an opportunity to dominate the political landscape.

The polling being so far off tells us that there are lots of folks that aren't diehard Trumpers that still voted for him. I believe those voters would be in play if the Democrats could find a cogent strategy to appease the centrists.

[ActionJackson]

Originally Posted by BGT Masters

Couldn't he technically still win if he gets AZ and Nevada and loses NC?

No, that would put him at 266 EC

[Pete Schweddy]

Originally Posted by Astros19

I think a very real positive to come out of this is even if Trump loses, the fact that it is as close as it is. If Republicans can find a decent candidate for 2024, I think the tables could turn towards the right. Granted a lot could happen in the next 4 years, but Trump had a lot of obstacles, including himself, to make the 2020 race as close as it was.
Perhaps it's wishful thinking on my part, we shall see.

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I've been thinking this for a couple weeks now. Assuming Biden wins now, 2024 could be a good chance of flipping back to republican. Assuming it's a decent candidate, there likely won't be so many votes against that person as there were against Trump. A Biden win is probably more about kicking Trump out, then it is for people being excited about Biden/Harris.

[NeedChapmans]

For all the hype about Texas.

Democrats did not pick up a single house seat in TX, lost the Senate, and lost the Presidential by 700k when all the votes are in.

It didn't shift much at all from 2016 to 2020.

[NeedChapmans]

Originally Posted by ActionJackson

No, that would put him at 266 EC

How DARE YOU FORGET ALASKA!

Yes, that works too.

[BoxBreaker72]

Arizona is the story. AZ/NC/GA/PA is the path

If Trump can pull AZ out, he wins. It would be a miracle, but it's what he needs.

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by Pete Schweddy

I've been thinking this for a couple weeks now. Assuming Biden wins now, 2024 could be a good chance of flipping back to republican. Assuming it's a decent candidate, there likely won't be so many votes against that person as there were against Trump. A Biden win is probably more about kicking Trump out, then it is for people being excited about Biden/Harris.

This is similar to what Dems were thinking in 2016, lol. A Trump win, while not ideal, at least set them up for a strong 2020.

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[cnewby]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

For all the hype about Texas.

Democrats did not pick up a single house seat in TX, lost the Senate, and lost the Presidential by 700k when all the votes are in.

It didn't shift much at all from 2016 to 2020.

but in 2024 its flipping!

[NeedChapmans]

And if you really wanna lose your mind.

Trump can lose GA, pick up NC, NV, AZ and PA w/ ME 2nd district, and we have a 269-269 tie.

[NeedChapmans]

BTW, that Nevada has decided not to release any vote today is just madness.

[Onepocketj]

[rcmb3220]

Yeah I don’t know why democrats think Texas is in play. Call me in about 8 years.

[Boo]

Originally Posted by Onepocketj

At least the yellow party got some votes, even some from Canada!

[Madoka]

Democrats trying to steal the election.

[calculusdork]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

And if you really wanna lose your mind.

Trump can lose GA, pick up NC, NV, AZ and PA w/ ME 2nd district, and we have a 269-269 tie.

And then one elector will decline to cast for Trump and the country will go into full-on civil war.

[wood minis]

Originally Posted by Pete Schweddy

I've been thinking this for a couple weeks now. Assuming Biden wins now, 2024 could be a good chance of flipping back to republican. Assuming it's a decent candidate, there likely won't be so many votes against that person as there were against Trump. A Biden win is probably more about kicking Trump out, then it is for people being excited about Biden/Harris.

The only chance Biden had was because of who he was running against. If he wins, it's simply because enough Americans want to move on from this administration at any cost.

[JustinVerlander07]

Originally Posted by gopherfan

Where in Michigan are you? I am in Sterling Heights, and on the rare occasions I go out, it's an anomaly to see someone without a mask indoors. Most people put them on in their cars, and wear them to and from the store.

Clarkston it's definitely more of a conservative area. I mean when I drive past a grocery store people are wearing them, but that's about it. Probably 60% won't wear a mask into the bar I work at. Is the practice of wearing it to your seat silly? Is it at all difficult to do? Nope.

[Pete Schweddy]

Originally Posted by wood minis

The only chance Biden had was because of who he was running against. If he wins, it's simply because enough Americans want to move on from this administration at any cost.

And pretty much the reason Trump won was because of people voting against Clinton, or not showing up to support her. Sad when the president is decided more because of who they're running against, then on their own merits.

[ORLMagicFan]

What is the line on the over/under for flagged tweets today from Trump.
I might want to lay some money on it

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by Pete Schweddy

And pretty much the reason Trump won was because of people voting against Clinton, or not showing up to support her. Sad when the president is decided more because of who they're running against, then on their own merits.

So we just ignore the entirety of the MAGA platform?

[metsandweezer]

Biden only -240 now