BGS non-guarantee average turnaround time is currently 83 business days - Page 23

Redsoxsoul · 08-23-2018, 09:00 AM

My order from 9/15/17 shipped yesterday. 25 cards, min 9.5 order. 8 9.5s, 1 10, 16 did not meet min.

vetting82 · 08-23-2018, 11:13 AM

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Whoops, you're correct. I'm just amazed that they're keeping the Non-Guaranteed Service open. I understand that it's their cheapest option for collectors, but it's the reason why they're in this predicament right now.

Pausing the 10-day service to catch up on non-guaranteed orders has not seemed to make a noticeable difference so far.

As much as it would suck for collectors, I wonder if BGS might be better off by just dropping the non-guaranteed service.

Yeah thats a tough spot. If they drop/suspend it, then everyone is going to use PSA bulk. Once you see a trend going towards sending Bowman Autos to PSA and the eBay prices follow suit, then BGS is going have some major issues.

Has anyone noticed BGS being tougher on grading lately?

Jrthurmer · 08-25-2018, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Redsoxsoul

My order from 9/15/17 shipped yesterday. 25 cards, min 9.5 order. 8 9.5s, 1 10, 16 did not meet min.

on the min order how much did they charge you for the ones that didn't meet the requirement compared to the ones that graded?

Redsoxsoul · 08-27-2018, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Jrthurmer

on the min order how much did they charge you for the ones that didn't meet the requirement compared to the ones that graded?

Same price for all. I did 9.5 minimum grade b/c my rep told me it would grade faster. HA! I think I paid $9 a card but it was so long ago I don't remember.

IndySportsCards · 08-27-2018, 08:23 AM

I've already started sending stuff to PSA. Beckett has lost me forever.

bosoulja82 · 08-31-2018, 06:54 AM

anyone else got their cards back recently?

bensie · 09-02-2018, 03:10 AM

So bulk bgs is so far underwater to be impractical, but does anyone know the wait time for bccg graded cards?

ehp6737 · 09-02-2018, 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by bensie

So bulk bgs is so far underwater to be impractical, but does anyone know the wait time for bccg graded cards?

Who cares. Bccg is pointless. Better off keeping it raw than having a bccg slab

Jrthurmer · 09-02-2018, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by ehp6737

Who cares. Bccg is pointless. Better off keeping it raw than having a bccg slab

Its true I had a card that was graded Mint or better had bgs crack it out of the case to grade it and they graded it an 8.5. I will personally never buy a BCCG again unless it is a card I plan to keep in my PC with no intentions of grading.

MFaulkCollector · 09-02-2018, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ehp6737

Who cares. Bccg is pointless. Better off keeping it raw than having a bccg slab

false...... there are some specific ebay sellers that use bccg grading.... instead of selling a raw 7 or 8 it likely equates to a bccg 9 or 10.... the appeal of a buyer to buy a bccg card in 9 or 10 is much higher than a raw 7 or 8 with those same noticeable flaws

bensie · 09-04-2018, 01:45 PM

FWIW, I checked with my Beckett rep, and he confirmed that BCCG are the same timeline as the BGS non-guaranteed service.

FT35 · 09-04-2018, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ehp6737

Who cares. Bccg is pointless. Better off keeping it raw than having a bccg slab

I kind of fell for it a little. I tried the whole BCCG regrade project and results were mixed. Even though I benefited BIG time from it, it's a risk I likely shouldn't have taken. But sometimes they sell for more under the assumption that "this card could be a 10!" Well...it could be an 8 or lower too, but we don't want to think of that!

I have purchased 3 BCCG 10 cards in hopes of cracking/subbing to PSA. It's tempting to believe a BCCG 10 is "at least a PSA 9 with the possibility of a 10." Answer is a hard No. Here are the results:

1. 1987 Fleer Sticker Michael Jordan BCCG 10. Purchased for $180. High grade values: PSA 10=$8-10K. PSA 9=$300+

Crossed to a PSA 7 due to a speck of paper loss on the front (had it been a normal BGS grade, the paper loss would have triggered an 8 on the surface sub--with all other subs being GEM--overall 9...however with PSA, any paper loss seems to max the card out at a 7--regardless of the rest of the card.

Current value: $25-30 ($150+ loss).

2. 1989 Fleer Michael Jordan BCCG 10. Purchased for $30. High grade values: PSA 10=$100+. PSA 9=$20.

Crossed to a PSA 9. OK...low end card--no big deal.

Current value: $20 ($10 loss)

3. 1984 OPC Steve Yzerman BCCG 10. Purchased for $110. High grade values: PSA 10=$800+. PSA 9=$165+

Crossed to a PSA 10!

Current value: $800+ ($690 gain)

Obviously hit the jackpot with the Stevie Y, but took a huge hit on the Jordan sticker--a hit that could ALWAYS be the case with any BCCG 10 out there. The misconception BCCG 10 caused me to overpay for 2 of the 3 cards simply due to the possibility of a higher grade. I am probably done with that gamble--as I doubt I'll stay ahead if I continue to roll the dice.

crpalmi · 09-07-2018, 03:54 PM

My BGS non-guaranteed sub is closing in on 11 months. I just got an email from the BGS rep saying that if I would be willing to switch to the service that does not offer sub grades they could have the order complete in the next 2 weeks. I passed.

Jrthurmer · 09-07-2018, 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by crpalmi

My BGS non-guaranteed sub is closing in on 11 months. I just got an email from the BGS rep saying that if I would be willing to switch to the service that does not offer sub grades they could have the order complete in the next 2 weeks. I passed.

I have not had any reps reach out to me 10 months will be September 10th i did see they have a new promo and changed their submission form and levels again. I wonder if this will set it back even more. I even sent them an easy order 60 cards of which I think 45 were raw reviewed. The order posted a couple days before nationals but grades have yet to come pop. Curious how big was your order?

Cujobyte · 09-08-2018, 01:13 AM

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Originally Posted by IndySportsCards

I've already started sending stuff to PSA. Beckett has lost me forever.

Due to the wait?

I am a magic card collector and becket is king in magic over PSA but curious as to why so many hate BGS.

Big35Hurt · 09-08-2018, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Cujobyte

Due to the wait?

I am a magic card collector and becket is king in magic over PSA but curious as to why so many hate BGS.

Is this is a real question in a multi-page thread about how long BGS is taking? Lol....did you read any of the rest of the thread?

kdailey4315 · 09-08-2018, 10:00 PM

Is this a function of a booming economy and people buying combined with Beckett's inability or desire to expand to meet demand?

bensie · 09-08-2018, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by kdailey4315

Is this a function of a booming economy and people buying combined with Beckett's inability or desire to expand to meet demand?

Yeah, I don't get it. Should be relatively straight forward to simply hire more graders. Almost seems like they're actually trying to kill this side of their business.

imbluestreak23 · 09-09-2018, 07:50 AM

CLECTORS:

BGS:

JFraley28 · 09-09-2018, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

CLECTORS:

BGS:

hahaha EXACTLY

Kefka891 · 09-09-2018, 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Jrthurmer

I have not had any reps reach out to me 10 months will be September 10th i did see they have a new promo and changed their submission form and levels again. I wonder if this will set it back even more. I even sent them an easy order 60 cards of which I think 45 were raw reviewed. The order posted a couple days before nationals but grades have yet to come pop. Curious how big was your order?

I’ve just passed 11 months, so you probably have 1-2 months+ wait still. I hope it doesn’t break the 1-year mark for me, but at this point it doesn’t matter. I’ll never use their service again, and beg everyone I know to never use it either.

snajuice · 09-10-2018, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by bosoulja82

anyone else got their cards back recently?

I have gotten 2 orders back from them in the last week. Cards were sent on 9/28 and 10/5

Jrthurmer · 09-10-2018, 01:11 PM

10 months today. Talked to the Beckett rep I work with. The new promo takes priority over Non-Guaranteed. Also he stated Non-Guaranteed is at 11 months. My guess is it will probably get pushed back to a year or more after this promo. Maybe by Christmas I'll have my cards back.

HKBred · 09-14-2018, 06:41 PM

Just wanted to give some of y'all some hope.
Received email from BGS that my cards are being shipped out to me today. Submission date was 12/01/17

seanbros55 · 09-15-2018, 01:36 PM

My subs popped today at 12:34am - order submitted 11.21.

09-07-2018, 03:54 PM	#563
crpalmi Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Minnesota Posts: 2,316 tcbrownsbacker	My BGS non-guaranteed sub is closing in on 11 months. I just got an email from the BGS rep saying that if I would be willing to switch to the service that does not offer sub grades they could have the order complete in the next 2 weeks. I passed. __________________ Collecting 2005 Charlie Frye RC's; Current total of 3252 cards including 329 different. This includes 1019 Auto's and 835 Jersey cards. If you have any 2005 Frye's... I'm interested!

09-08-2018, 10:00 PM	#567
kdailey4315 Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 423 KD4315	Is this a function of a booming economy and people buying combined with Beckett's inability or desire to expand to meet demand? __________________ Collecting all on card autos of Notre Dame players in ND uniform.

09-09-2018, 07:50 AM	#569
imbluestreak23 Member Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Meandering the matrix code that the hobby/forum overlords spit out Posts: 17,779 shortslabs	CLECTORS: BGS: __________________ @shortslabs I'VE WITNESSED HOW THE SAUSAGE IS MADE HERE...IT'S ROTTEN https://www.youtube.com/c/TylerShort

08-23-2018, 09:00 AM	#551
Redsoxsoul Member Join Date: May 2014 Location: Sharon MA Posts: 244 crescentmooncards	My order from 9/15/17 shipped yesterday. 25 cards, min 9.5 order. 8 9.5s, 1 10, 16 did not meet min.

08-27-2018, 08:23 AM	#555
IndySportsCards Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: EO 13848 Posts: 41,991 braco0 IndySportsCards	I've already started sending stuff to PSA. Beckett has lost me forever.

08-31-2018, 06:54 AM	#556
bosoulja82 Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Posts: 98	anyone else got their cards back recently?

09-02-2018, 03:10 AM	#557
bensie Banned Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Desert Posts: 312	So bulk bgs is so far underwater to be impractical, but does anyone know the wait time for bccg graded cards?

09-04-2018, 01:45 PM	#561
bensie Banned Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Desert Posts: 312	FWIW, I checked with my Beckett rep, and he confirmed that BCCG are the same timeline as the BGS non-guaranteed service.

09-10-2018, 01:11 PM	#573
Jrthurmer Member Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 2,661	10 months today. Talked to the Beckett rep I work with. The new promo takes priority over Non-Guaranteed. Also he stated Non-Guaranteed is at 11 months. My guess is it will probably get pushed back to a year or more after this promo. Maybe by Christmas I'll have my cards back.

09-14-2018, 06:41 PM	#574
HKBred Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Posts: 54	Just wanted to give some of y'all some hope. Received email from BGS that my cards are being shipped out to me today. Submission date was 12/01/17

09-15-2018, 01:36 PM	#575
seanbros55 Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: From the 508 to the 707 Posts: 5,380	My subs popped today at 12:34am - order submitted 11.21.