2023-24 NBA Season Thread - Page 23

Kingofdfw · 06-30-2023, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Braswell10

Vanvleet is overrated. His shooting percentages are not good. He just shot 39% from the field this season

Massive overpay from the Rockets. They need a reset - they are collecting a bunch of non winning players and people with bad attitudes. Not a good recipe for success.

Yup Rockets spending money just to spend money.

yiguiri2002 · 06-30-2023, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

The deals being handed out are WILD. Grant and Vanvleet stand out as by far the worst so far to me.

It's scary because everyone is banking in more significant cap increases in the future.

Cap is at 133 now. That's why solid rotation players are getting 20% of that and guys who won't come close to All-Stars are getting 30% (or more).

Something goes bad, cap stops increasing this much and some deals are gonna look horrible. I'm shocked owners are not pushing for more.

ninjacookies · 06-30-2023, 08:59 PM

I don't mind the FVV fit for Houston.

Vet presence, low turnovers, and - despite his fg% - still decent behind the arc. When he's on, he cooks. Most importantly, he's become a much better facilitator these past few years and is very scrappy on defense.

Definitely an upgrade over KPJ and still has a lot more left in the tank than Harden.

daeve · 06-30-2023, 09:02 PM

Seth Curry to Mavs on 2 year deal, didn't see a number attached yet. Not a bad pickup

JustinVerlander07 · 06-30-2023, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by yiguiri2002

It's scary because everyone is banking in more significant cap increases in the future.

Cap is at 133 now. That's why solid rotation players are getting 20% of that and guys who won't come close to All-Stars are getting 30% (or more).

Something goes bad, cap stops increasing this much and some deals are gonna look horrible. I'm shocked owners are not pushing for more.

Very interesting that teams seem more inclined for higher AAV but less years given the 2nd apron issue most of the league is destined to run into.

That Grant deal though....Woof.

19royaldecker87 · 06-30-2023, 09:14 PM

D Rose to the grizzles

packman80 · 06-30-2023, 09:15 PM

Rockets offering Lopez 2 years $40+ million?

packman80 · 06-30-2023, 09:50 PM

Former No. 2 overall pick Jabari Parker is back with the team that drafted him, at least for a few games in July. The Bucks announced today that Parker is on their Las Vegas Summer League roster.

jrnelson · 06-30-2023, 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by daeve

Seth Curry to Mavs on 2 year deal, didn't see a number attached yet. Not a bad pickup

just the $4.5MM biannual exception, nice deal!

Ferg1945 · 06-30-2023, 11:02 PM

Heat are trading Victor Oladipo to the OKC Thunder. Victor was so excited he immediately put the jersey on and got to work......

ninjacookies · 06-30-2023, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

The deals being handed out are WILD. Grant and Vanvleet stand out as by far the worst so far to me.

That's just a natural byproduct of modern day free agency and the mainstream popularity of the superteam concept and player collusion.

Basement dwelling, rebuilding squads won't even get a second glance from all-star talent unless they toss out stupid FU money.

daeve · 06-30-2023, 11:14 PM

D Rose as Ja's stand-in isn't bad. Especially for 2/6.5

I like what Minny did with NAW at 2/9 and Shake at 2/10.

daeve · 06-30-2023, 11:21 PM

Hali gettin paaaaid.

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[Wojnarowski] BREAKING: All-Star G Tyrese Haliburton and the Indiana Pacers are agreed on a five-year, designated maximum contract extension that could be worth up to $260 million, his agents Dave Spahn and Aaron Mintz of @CAASports tell ESPN. Haliburton is fully the franchise cornerstone now.

Master Shake · 06-30-2023, 11:26 PM

The Rockets got Van Fleeced!

Chris P · 06-30-2023, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by daeve

Hali gettin paaaaid.

Grizz paid Bane too!

bkcardcollector · 07-01-2023, 06:50 AM

This solidifies my thought that FVV was being a baby when he took two weeks off for "family reasons" when raps went on a little losing streak.

He was in a few interviews telling the world the raptors stink.

Glad he is outta there. He thinks he is something special after the chip. good luck in Houston. At least you got paid i guess.

daeve · 07-01-2023, 08:49 AM

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[Smith] Spurs drop to about $25.4M in remaining cap space. Yes...that's enough for an Austin Reaves offer sheet.

now the fun begins

packman80 · 07-01-2023, 08:54 AM

Crazy to think some of these guys who are signing max contracts could be close to $600 million made by time they have 15 years in league. You sign a couple max contracts like Halilburton could if he plays well off the one he just signed now and signs another one after that which could be $300+ million

JustinVerlander07 · 07-01-2023, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ninjacookies

That's just a natural byproduct of modern day free agency and the mainstream popularity of the superteam concept and player collusion.

Basement dwelling, rebuilding squads won't even get a second glance from all-star talent unless they toss out stupid FU money.

I know, but the Vanvleet and Grant stands out as just straight bad off rip. Especially Grant when Dame is gone next year (or in a week). No veteran help for Dame yet.

asujbl · 07-01-2023, 09:40 AM

The Cavs getting Niang and Strus with basically no cap space or real assets is pretty impressive

Probably overpaid on the contracts but not my money

They addressed a huge need without giving up basically anything to do it

JustinVerlander07 · 07-01-2023, 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

The Cavs getting Niang and Strus with basically no cap space or real assets is pretty impressive

Probably overpaid on the contracts but not my money

They addressed a huge need without giving up basically anything to do it

Happy with those deals and call Green's trash. Never change.

asujbl · 07-01-2023, 09:49 AM

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Originally Posted by JustinVerlander07

Happy with those deals and call Green's trash. Never change.

Apples and Oranges

But sure

JustinVerlander07 · 07-01-2023, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by asujbl

Apples and Oranges

But sure

Yea one guy contributes to winning championships and the others don't. Agreed.

daeve · 07-01-2023, 09:54 AM

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[Wojnarowski] Sasha Vezenkov – a 6-foot-9 reigning EuroLeague MVP – has agreed on a three-year, $20 million deal with the Sacramento Kings, his agents Mark Bartelstein and George Roussakis of @PrioritySports and Nick Lotsos of Team Lotsos tell ESPN.

without knowing much about him I think this is a great move for the Kangz

daeve · 07-01-2023, 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Chris P

Grizz paid Bane too!

happy for the guy but does seem like a tad much for a 3rd guy, but maybe he should be 2nd and Ja relegated to 3rd banana? The team dynamic will be interesting this year. D Rose and Smart should help set the locker room tone while Ja is out and maybe [big maybe] he falls in line when he gets back from detention.

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bkcardcollector Member Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Raptors Nation Posts: 7,858 bk_card_collector bk_card_collector	This solidifies my thought that FVV was being a baby when he took two weeks off for "family reasons" when raps went on a little losing streak. He was in a few interviews telling the world the raptors stink. Glad he is outta there. He thinks he is something special after the chip. good luck in Houston. At least you got paid i guess. __________________ Got Tyler Ennis?

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asujbl Temporarily Suspended Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 63,010 ohiosundevils	The Cavs getting Niang and Strus with basically no cap space or real assets is pretty impressive Probably overpaid on the contracts but not my money They addressed a huge need without giving up basically anything to do it __________________ https://ohiosundevils.smugmug.com/ Browns/Cavs/Tribe/Buckeyes/Jackets/Devils TheFrenzy - “Blowout ain't a place for normies”

06-30-2023, 09:02 PM	#554
daeve Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: savannah GA Posts: 13,145 accrules	Seth Curry to Mavs on 2 year deal, didn't see a number attached yet. Not a bad pickup

06-30-2023, 09:15 PM	#557
packman80 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 17,111	Rockets offering Lopez 2 years $40+ million?

06-30-2023, 09:50 PM	#558
packman80 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 17,111	Former No. 2 overall pick Jabari Parker is back with the team that drafted him, at least for a few games in July. The Bucks announced today that Parker is on their Las Vegas Summer League roster.

06-30-2023, 11:02 PM	#560
Ferg1945 Member Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: Midwest Posts: 14,720	Heat are trading Victor Oladipo to the OKC Thunder. Victor was so excited he immediately put the jersey on and got to work......

06-30-2023, 11:14 PM	#562
daeve Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: savannah GA Posts: 13,145 accrules	D Rose as Ja's stand-in isn't bad. Especially for 2/6.5 I like what Minny did with NAW at 2/9 and Shake at 2/10.

06-30-2023, 11:26 PM	#564
Master Shake Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 1,115 mastershaketoyou	The Rockets got Van Fleeced!

07-01-2023, 08:54 AM	#568
packman80 Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Posts: 17,111	Crazy to think some of these guys who are signing max contracts could be close to $600 million made by time they have 15 years in league. You sign a couple max contracts like Halilburton could if he plays well off the one he just signed now and signs another one after that which could be $300+ million