Giannis "The Greak Freak" Antetokounmpo Thread

[smalltown]

Originally Posted by wxguy44

Bucks should go all in to get Dame

They don't have the assets to do that even if he became available.

[wxguy44]

Originally Posted by smalltown

They don't have the assets to do that even if he became available.

Regardless, a Dame-Giannis team up would be interesting IMO. Doesn't have to be in Milwaukee!

[packfan15412]

My heart is broken... this feels like the Clippers squad with CP3 and Blake Griffin... soo much talent and expectations and always falling short... eventually they just disband the team and watch players go their own way... as a lifelong Bucks fan, Giannis isn't winning one here

[minnesotachill]

I never understood the appeal of Jrue Holiday

After the Bucks signed him, Giannis was content on staying and it seemed like most thought this could be the final piece to get them to the Finals.

He is a solid PG, don't get me wrong, but what did he ever do in Philly or New Orleans that made Milwaukee think he was gonna save the franchise.

[sportsyard]

Originally Posted by packfan15412

My heart is broken... this feels like the Clippers squad with CP3 and Blake Griffin... soo much talent and expectations and always falling short... eventually they just disband the team and watch players go their own way... as a lifelong Bucks fan, Giannis isn't winning one here

hard to have known that Brooklyn would assemble a big three to the level of KD, Kyrie, and Harden. But yes, with an aging core Middleton, Jrue, Brook... its going to be pretty tough. Giannis will eventually get one in a big market like Miami, NY, LA, or Toronto.

[GeechQuest]

Originally Posted by sportsyard

hard to have known that Brooklyn would assemble a big three to the level of KD, Kyrie, and Harden. But yes, with an aging core Middleton, Jrue, Brook... its going to be pretty tough. Giannis will eventually get one in a big market like Miami, NY, LA, or Toronto.

The Bucks knew the Nets wanted Harden before they ever made the Jrue trade.

I’ve outlined it before, but the Bucks could have assembled a better package for Harden instead of the package that ended up getting the done.

Harden and Giannis should be playing together right now, along with Middleton.

Originally Posted by GeechQuest

The biggest loser in this whole Harden saga for me was/is Milwaukee. The Bucks could have had Harden instead of Jrue/Tucker. Huge mismanagement on the part of Horst. Here is what the Bucks have given up this season:

-3 First Rounders (4 if we include the RJ Hampton move)
-3 Pick Swaps
-Eric Bledsoe, George Hill, DJ Augustin, DJ Wilson


Ipso Facto: The Bucks should have had Harden and made that play more than anybody. They could have got it done IMO. I hate this situation for Giannis. He deserves better.

[Adamlp41]

I don't comment much, but couldn't avoid it this time.

During halftime last night, Charles and Kenny spent time calling out how even though the Bucks were successful in the first half, it wasn't because they were always playing smart basketball. Then, in the second half, as Brooklyn got hot, the Bucks puckered back even more into their most troubling tendency which seems to be 1 on 1 ball when the going gets tough. These things seem like things that strict coaching should identify and adjust.

Then...the fact that they weren't attacking Harden every chance they got was tough to watch too. Until he proves he could stop attacking offense, making him have to move quickly, they should have had the big 3 going at him consistently. Simmons spent time on this on his podcast, and it makes a lot of sense.

So...once again corrections that are possible to make, along with Durant maybe not going supernova again, could help the rest of the way. Also...Jeff Green possibly not going 7/8 from 3 would help.

[daeve]

Originally Posted by tjforce

This is dumb.

The guy had 6 of his team's 10 points in the last 5 minutes.

Maybe if Middleton doesn't go 0-3 in that same time there's a different result, no?

Originally Posted by tjforce

Ohh look.. more theoreticals.

Ill give you a hint… they do not matter. You either get it done or you dont. Giannis may or may not get it done. Jokic didn’t. Not knock on Jokic, hell of a player. But he got on the early flight to cancun tonight and thats what matters.

changed your tune in less than 48 hours, impressive

[sebreg]

Originally Posted by Adamlp41

I don't comment much, but couldn't avoid it this time.

During halftime last night, Charles and Kenny spent time calling out how even though the Bucks were successful in the first half, it wasn't because they were always playing smart basketball. Then, in the second half, as Brooklyn got hot, the Bucks puckered back even more into their most troubling tendency which seems to be 1 on 1 ball when the going gets tough. These things seem like things that strict coaching should identify and adjust.

Then...the fact that they weren't attacking Harden every chance they got was tough to watch too. Until he proves he could stop attacking offense, making him have to move quickly, they should have had the big 3 going at him consistently. Simmons spent time on this on his podcast, and it makes a lot of sense.

So...once again corrections that are possible to make, along with Durant maybe not going supernova again, could help the rest of the way. Also...Jeff Green possibly not going 7/8 from 3 would help.

Yes, to me, while the players were making the same errors in tactics and plays, it's up to the coach to right the ship. I saw a comment by someone that basically said KD will do the Bucks a favor if he helps Nets beat Bucks, paving the way for Bud's firing.

[meanjean9]

Originally Posted by sebreg

Yes, to me, while the players were making the same errors in tactics and plays, it's up to the coach to right the ship. I saw a comment by someone that basically said KD will do the Bucks a favor if he helps Nets beat Bucks, paving the way for Bud's firing.

Pretty crazy that Bud will almost certainly be fired (barring a VERRRRY longshot run to the finals) after going 162-65 in 3 years. Just makes no adjustments on either end of the floor, complete ISO ball down the stretch. Giannis not throwing PJ out of the way to check Durant in the 4th himself was really disappointing to see. Hats off to Durant though, not a more skilled offensive player on the planet, probably the greatest all around playoff performance in history.

[dasiegel]

Bud doesn't seem to be the get over the hump coach. Giannis needs to take a real deep look at why he doesn't have a 15-18 foot jump shot at this point.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by daeve

changed your tune in less than 48 hours, impressive

Wow... you are actually going thru all my posts to try to find holes, impressive.

But you're misinterpreting

I'm not giving a pass for Giannis losing. Durant outplayed him and deserved to win.

I'm giving reasoning for why Giannis should not be benched for the last 5 minutes of the game. It's subtle, but it's different.

Now that you understand what I'm saying, do you disagree and think the Bucks should bench Giannis for the last 5 mins?

[sebreg]

Originally Posted by meanjean9

Pretty crazy that Bud will almost certainly be fired (barring a VERRRRY longshot run to the finals) after going 162-65 in 3 years. Just makes no adjustments on either end of the floor, complete ISO ball down the stretch. Giannis not throwing PJ out of the way to check Durant in the 4th himself was really disappointing to see. Hats off to Durant though, not a more skilled offensive player on the planet, probably the greatest all around playoff performance in history.

Absolutely, Durant deserves credit for a legendary performance. Plenty of blame to go around, and like many while I think Giannis needs to develop something like a little hook shot and some mid-range weapons, the majority of blame comes down to coaching issues imo. It's frustrating to see. I'm not a Bucks fan, but as a basketball fan I would love to see this team maximize its potential. Disappointed in Jrue's performance as well.

[jstasyk1121]

Giannis was very clunky and clumsy last night...cant really rely on him down stretch in any aspect of offense...cant shoot...cant hit FTs and when he tried to go 1on1 its like he would back up how Lebron or others do...but he is not nearly as smooth or evasive and just tries to rumble towards the rim and was not successful at all often times last night...

idk...everyone saying he will win once he gets out of there...im not too confident unless he has legit other guys to carry offense down stretch...will be interesting

[imbluestreak23]

No point in panicking.

Giannis is in a better position to win chips than Luka, and I don't see people saying Luka market is crashing. KD went all time great. Had that not happened Bucks would be looking at a close out game on their home court in game 6.

This series goes to 7 games IMO

[sebreg]

Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

No point in panicking.

Giannis is in a better position to win chips than Luka, and I don't see people saying Luka market is crashing. KD went all time great. Had that not happened Bucks would be looking at a close out game on their home court in game 6.

This series goes to 7 games IMO

I think the comp is iffy because Luka is first off younger than Giannis, and secondly he doesn't have as mindblowing fatal flaw holes in his game like Giannis does. Absolutely crushes you if your number one guy can't be relied upon down the stretch in clutch situation moments. You better have a monster number 2 player to counter fatal flaws in an offensively one-dimensional number one.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

No point in panicking.

Giannis is in a better position to win chips than Luka, and I don't see people saying Luka market is crashing. KD went all time great. Had that not happened Bucks would be looking at a close out game on their home court in game 6.

This series goes to 7 games IMO

Giannis isn’t closer than Luka. Bucks may be better than the Mavs, but we know the ceiling for the Bucks. It’s not a title. The franchise has made critical mistakes the past few years that has resulted in a salary capped squad with no hope of getting better. They have a big three that didn’t make any sense on paper, and looks even worse in the playoffs. You cannot give the ball to Giannis in the final minutes. He’s a head case at the line and can’t do anything reliably other than dunk. Middleton is a role player, not a last shot guy. And I haven’t watched a ton of Holiday, but what I’ve seen from him this series is not impressive. He does a poor job creating for himself, settles for bad shots too often, and doesn’t facilitate for the rest of the team.

What exactly are the Bucks supposed to do this offseason? Not like they’re going to be getting the title chasing veteran discount that teams like the Nets and Lakers get.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

No point in panicking.

Giannis is in a better position to win chips than Luka, and I don't see people saying Luka market is crashing. KD went all time great. Had that not happened Bucks would be looking at a close out game on their home court in game 6.

This series goes to 7 games IMO

Really interested to see how the Bucks play in Game 6.

Some teams might fold up after something like this. Others respond. Assuming that Kyrie isn't back and that Harden isn't going to be his old self, the Bucks still have the overall healthy talent edge (if KD doesn't go absolutely nuclear). Home court advantage has been everything this series.

[nxkard]

I think the series very likely goes 7

My bigger concern is the bucks play/coach the entirety of game 7 with the deer in the headlights look we saw in the 4th quarter last night

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[jerrygarcia]

Originally Posted by imbluestreak23

No point in panicking.

Giannis is in a better position to win chips than Luka, and I don't see people saying Luka market is crashing. KD went all time great. Had that not happened Bucks would be looking at a close out game on their home court in game 6.

This series goes to 7 games IMO

Poor comparison.
Luke much younger, almost winning series on his own. Luka can create on his own and distribute when doubled.

We've seen what Giannis is capable of and how he isn't clutch, vs Luka is very clutch.

G should absolutely want the ball in his hands-on critical possessions and he doesn't.

[Spacemanspif]

Originally Posted by nxkard

I think the series very likely goes 7

My bigger concern is the bucks play/coach the entirety of game 7 with the deer in the headlights look we saw in the 4th quarter last night

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I'm not on social but honestly have been surprised at the lack of "deer in the headlights" puns so far

[Randallk34]

Did this clown guard Durant at all last game?

[Randallk34]

Originally Posted by jerrygarcia

Poor comparison.
Luke much younger, almost winning series on his own. Luka can create on his own and distribute when doubled.

We've seen what Giannis is capable of and how he isn't clutch, vs Luka is very clutch.

G should absolutely want the ball in his hands-on critical possessions and he doesn't.

and should want to guard Durant, no questions asked. Coach says no, well tell coach to take a hike.

[nxkard]

Originally Posted by Spacemanspif

I'm not on social but honestly have been surprised at the lack of "deer in the headlights" puns so far

I think there is an unwritten rule about no puns at funerals.

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[Randallk34]

This game 5 picture of Giannis watching his teammates guard Durant