2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[kyle121592]

Originally Posted by Hootiefish

Do you mean the witch hunt that led to actual indictments and arrests? And led to the lead investigator stating that "if the President didn't commit a crime, I'd have said it." That witch hunt?

Im pretty sure in the country I live (The United States of America) you're innocent until proven guilty...maybe you're living in some fantasy land though. Would sound on par with everything else you've posted.

[CJsHockeyCards]

For the people that are saying no possible voter fraud....

Can they please watch this video and tell me wtf happened in Michigan?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivT2z5UgHxo

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by Hootiefish

There is zero evidence of voter fraud. None. The Trump Jr. video everyone was promoting was proved false. Same-day registrations have proven concerns surrounding high registration numbers false. No dead people are voting, unless they died after they voted.

Trump has always been a whiny baby, hence the balloon. He's still playing his role perfectly, and his supporters are eating it up.

So just because you say that there is zero evidence when the accusations and investigation isn't even over yet, makes it false and I'm eating something up that isn't there. I'm not saying there is fraud or not, I don't know unlike the know it alls that are already saying its false, but I don't understand why it's not ok to make sure there everything is on the up and up are you telling me the Liberals wouldn't do the same? come on...

[Hootiefish]

Originally Posted by mike1498

How’s the Russia investigation going? I didn’t even vote for trump but the biggest babies are the Democrats

I don't know, 37 indictments make for a pretty successful investigation. Did they get the big fish, no, but they didn't need to.

His legacy will always be Russia, impeachment, and leaving the White House kicking and screaming.

[Locoduck]

LOL don't know who will win, but reading all the republicans comments is making my day. Best day ever!!!!

[jcardstore]

You know it's getting out of control when people are sharing youtube conspiracies

[mike1498]

Originally Posted by Hootiefish

I don't know, 37 indictments make for a pretty successful investigation. Did they get the big fish, no, but they didn't need to.

His legacy will always be Russia, impeachment, and leaving the White House kicking and screaming.

Thank you for answering my question. I think you’ll see the same scenario play out for Biden. It’s a shame that it will come to that but the Dems wanted to play that game.

[CJsHockeyCards]

Originally Posted by jcardstore

You know it's getting out of control when people are sharing youtube conspiracies

Please explain then.... Don't just label it a conspiracy. They stopped counting votes. They bring in suitcases, coolers, wagons, etc into the building. At the exact same time Biden gets a 138K vote surge without any other candidate receiving 1 vote.

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by Eckstein197

It will probably be Harris, makes sense to run the VP. AOC not sure how they’d do that, she would be under the age limit until almost Election Day (currently 31, would turn 35 like 20 days before the election)

AOC? No. Just no. I mean, Dems aren't the best at picking candidates lately, so I guess it's possible...but she would get absolutely destroyed in the national election.

Harris? We'll see. She has plenty of time to position herself, or shoot herself in the foot.

Best case would be somebody not in the headlines today, imo.

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[Hootiefish]

Originally Posted by Chris Lyle

So just because you say that there is zero evidence when the accusations and investigation isn't even over yet, makes it false and I'm eating something up that isn't there.

Then wait until the counting is done before you scream fraud. Trump was screaming fraud about Michigan, and it turned out that he's going to lose that state by at least 3 percent.

The point is, everyone knew Trump was going to cry fraud, and when he did, his supporters ate it up, just like they did in 2016. Where were the 3 million fraudulent votes that Trump complained about in 2016? That's right, there were none, because he is a giant man-baby that can't accept losing.

Worse part is, his behavior is overshadowing what should be seen as a victory for Republicans. They had a tremendous ground game that held the Senate and gained seats in the House despite all signs pointing to a "Blue Wave."

Instead, man-baby is crying and all we are hearing is "fraud!" despite evidence to the contrary.

[discostu]

Originally Posted by mike1498

Thank you for answering my question. I think you’ll see the same scenario play out for Biden. It’s a shame that it will come to that but the Dems wanted to play that game.

I thought the GOP was above that? You know, it being a "cupcake," poor loser kind of thing to do.

If there's voter fraud. Find it. Indict. Prosecute.

In 2016, we were told of wide swathes of fraud, a biased commission was started. It disbanded after finding nothing. And Trump won in 2016.

He's claimed wide voter fraud throughout.

Why?

To protect his ego, not for the integrity of the process.

Oh yeah, that's right. Words don't matter.

So there's no fraud? Which is it?

If there is...put it up. It's a serious federal crime.

[Hootiefish]

Originally Posted by kyle121592

Im pretty sure in the country I live (The United States of America) you're innocent until proven guilty...maybe you're living in some fantasy land though. Would sound on par with everything else you've posted.

So many salty Trump supporters.

[cnewby]

Originally Posted by Hootiefish

So many salty Trump supporters.

Are you even supposed to be here right now?

[yanksfan1]

Originally Posted by CJsHockeyCards

For the people that are saying no possible voter fraud....

Can they please watch this video and tell me wtf happened in Michigan?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivT2z5UgHxo

That would be a TV reporter loading his cameras into his truck. Do you even do any research or just blindly believe everything on the internet?

https://www.wxyz.com/news/video-clai...ng-camera-gear

[Hootiefish]

Originally Posted by mike1498

Thank you for answering my question. I think you’ll see the same scenario play out for Biden. It’s a shame that it will come to that but the Dems wanted to play that game.

The Republicans, for their part, began that game when they went after Clinton for a BJ in the Oval Office during an investigation into a land deal. They perfected it with the birther nonsense during the Obama administration.

No one's hands are clean.

[asujbl]

Originally Posted by thenwhatjk

Specifically the Big Bossman

Well done

[CJsHockeyCards]

Originally Posted by yanksfan1

That would be a TV reporter loading his cameras into his truck. Do you even do any research or just blindly believe everything on the internet?

https://www.wxyz.com/news/video-clai...ng-camera-gear

Ummm did you watch the same video I did? Nothing was loaded into the truck. Suitcases, coolers, wagons, etc were unloaded from the truck.

[Hootiefish]

Originally Posted by cnewby

Are you even supposed to be here right now?

I'm at home, working from my desk.

Am I supposed to be elsewhere?

[Jopeal]

I know we’re in the midst of awaiting the remaining swing votes, but I thought this was an interesting article to a still relevant topic:

The Fight Over Derek Chauvin's $1 Million Bail Shows the System Is Irrational and Broken
https://reason.com/2020/10/13/the-fi...al-and-broken/

A discussion on how there is hypocrisy on both sides of the aisle with regard to criminal justice in America seen through the impending trials in the incident that sparked initial police reform protests this spring.

[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by mike1498

Thank you for answering my question. I think you’ll see the same scenario play out for Biden. It’s a shame that it will come to that but the Dems wanted to play that game.

It's a shame? How so?

I figure justice is good. I figure keeping tabs on government is good.

Obviously, sometimes it's a complete waste of time used to gain political points by casting doubt. The Ukraine thing that led to impeachment was just that, silly partisan gamesmanship. But the initial russia investigation netted convictions for some pretty important people.

At first glance, the Biden Ukraine/China thing seems without merit. If something is there, have at it righties. If not, don't embarrass yourselves like Nasty Nancy did with the Ukraine impeachment.

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[JustRachel]

Originally Posted by Hootiefish

I'm at home, working from my desk.



Am I supposed to be elsewhere?

Aren't you supposed to be out finding more boxes of votes somewhere? I mean, somebody's gotta do it.

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[Hootiefish]

Here's a question - to everyone crying voter fraud, if Trump wins the vote, which is still possible, will you continue to bang that drum? Or will it suddenly disappear, like COVID was supposed to?

[mike1498]

Originally Posted by discostu

I thought the GOP was above that? You know, it being a "cupcake," poor loser kind of thing to do.

If there's voter fraud. Find it. Indict. Prosecute.

In 2016, we were told of wide swathes of fraud, a biased commission was started. It disbanded after finding nothing. And Trump won in 2016.

He's claimed wide voter fraud throughout.

Why?

To protect his ego, not for the integrity of the process.

Oh yeah, that's right. Words don't matter.

So there's no fraud? Which is it?

If there is...put it up. It's a serious federal crime.

I think there are probably individuals on both sides that could have done fraud on a small scale. I think this is a fair assessment to think not EVERY vote is correct. I think russia had an influence but again not to the affect it changed the election. Trump and Biden weren't behind either of these causes and shouldn't be brought down over things they can't control. But I can't help that the dems did this to themselves. They're on their own. Dumb decisions give you dumb outcomes. I won't be protesting it like I didn't with Russia but some people thought this was a good idea. You live with your actions

[Chris Lyle]

Originally Posted by Hootiefish

Here's a question - to everyone crying voter fraud, if Trump wins the vote, which is still possible, will you continue to bang that drum? Or will it suddenly disappear, like COVID was supposed to?

i personally am not crying voter fraud, but if there is fraud going on it should be found regardless of Trump winning the state or not. Wrong is wrong. IMO

[lietuvalabas]

Originally Posted by discostu

I thought the GOP was above that? You know, it being a "cupcake," poor loser kind of thing to do.

If there's voter fraud. Find it. Indict. Prosecute.

In 2016, we were told of wide swathes of fraud, a biased commission was started. It disbanded after finding nothing. And Trump won in 2016.

He's claimed wide voter fraud throughout.

Why?

To protect his ego, not for the integrity of the process.

Oh yeah, that's right. Words don't matter.

So there's no fraud? Which is it?

If there is...put it up. It's a serious federal crime.

My issue with this is the mail in voting. There's like zero vetting and it's just asking for fraud to happen. What gets me is the hypocrisy. We have a less than stellar governor here in Illinois, and to be fair our last one in Illinois was a Republican and he was also lousy, i can call it where I see it.

When march voting or whatever they call it came around he said how important it was to go out and vote (mail in voting wasn't an option) yet he had the entire state shut down. So his precious little votes mattered but businesses could just crumble no problem..

So granted this is just my state of Illinois and not nationwide. But why all of a sudden can mail in be okay? I understand some people are terrified to leave their house, but can you go to the grocery store? Oh you can? Okay then you can go vote, even if it's just the drop box. That's the issue, i think the left purposely did this because they knew it could be manipulated. There is so much hypocrisy its unreal. Like i said if they found Biden won legit, then he did and I'll accept it. But for those saying Trump is being a baby by having his team go through with a fine tooth comb, given the situation, it only seems both prudent and fair.