2020 Politics Thread - Enter At Your Own Risk - RULES IN OP

[byronscott4ever]

Was Trump’s plan all along to trash mail in votes, knowing they’d lean Democratic, and then claim fraud once the inevitable happened?

It also makes me wonder what kind of reversal there would have been if Trump handled COVID differently or didn’t have the pandemic

[pskell02]

Originally Posted by GOWIFB

Almost forgot there was a football game on tonight. Probably a good thing my Packers are playing as I have had the TV and internet tuned into the election non stop since Tuesday, especially with being off work this week.

Glad you mentioned this! I forgot to make my picks for the week

[jarrodsalas]

Originally Posted by byronscott4ever

Was Trump’s plan all along to trash mail in votes, knowing they’d lean Democratic, and then claim fraud once the inevitable happened?

It also makes me wonder what kind of reversal there would have been if Trump handled COVID differently or didn’t have the pandemic

Let’s be honest. Mail in ballots has not been a smooth thing this election. Too many stories of discrepancies for the process.

[zonacats8]

Originally Posted by NeedChapmans

We talked a bit about this yesterday but as a whole, I think the party will walk away from this election with a huge smile on their face. They're going to pick up ~15 house seats which means Pelosi has a razor thin margin to make progressive things happen; they flipped a state house, they held the senate, and they unloaded Trump in the process.

I'd hold off on saying they kept the Senate

Kelly will win AZ to get them to 48, if GA has a runoff for both seats, while I know the GOP will run their campaign as it's needed to keep Biden in check, but I don't think it would drive out MORE voters for the GOP than this election just did.

If anything, not having Trump on the ticket will really hurt their turnout, while the Dems will run the polar opposite, this is to get it to 50/50 to give the Dems control of the WH and full Congress.

[tier1dc]

Originally Posted by jarrodsalas

Let’s be honest. Mail in ballots has not been a smooth thing this election. Too many stories of discrepancies for the process.

stories told by whom?

Lt. Gov Fetterman just said Penn is Bidens.

[GOWIFB]

Originally Posted by byronscott4ever

Was Trump’s plan all along to trash mail in votes, knowing they’d lean Democratic, and then claim fraud once the inevitable happened?

It also makes me wonder what kind of reversal there would have been if Trump handled COVID differently or didn’t have the pandemic

Yes, it was going to be his plan to challenge mail in votes if he ended up losing the election. I think that has been pretty clear for months.

[lionsfan20]

Originally Posted by JustRachel

"We are a nation of laws. We have laws that govern elections. The President says he is a law and order president. Well, we'll see about that."

Anderson Cooper

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You would be a lot less annoying if you would just admit you are a liberal already. Every post you make is either supporting Dem or liberal views or bashing Republicans. Just give up the charade already. Nobody is buying it. Many people here would respect you more if you were honest.

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[duwal]

Originally Posted by jarrodsalas

Let’s be honest. Mail in ballots has not been a smooth thing this election. Too many stories of discrepancies for the process.

But that is what they are...stories. There has been no proof whatsoever of any kind of wrongdoing. There is a Republican and Democratic representative in every building that check out every vote to make sure everything is on the up and up and valid

[TASS]

Anybody think Kemp is taking phone calls from Trump?

[Callmethevreez]

Originally Posted by lionsfan20

Lol why do you think Santorum is on CNN? Guy is a joke. Of course he is not supporting Trump. He would not be on that communist news network. It's just like Kasich. They are both pandering to CNN and their viewers. No different than when current or former Dems come on Fox. It's all a ploy.

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Exactly! Remember when McCain and then Romney became the belles of the ball when they spoke/voted/whatever against Trump?

[Swipe79]

I don't know if anyone posted this - Bernie nailed it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LIb7xNL9Sc

[GOWIFB]

Originally Posted by zonacats8

I'd hold off on saying they kept the Senate

Kelly will win AZ to get them to 48, if GA has a runoff for both seats, while I know the GOP will run their campaign as it's needed to keep Biden in check, but I don't think it would drive out MORE voters for the GOP than this election just did.

If anything, not having Trump on the ticket will really hurt their turnout, while the Dems will run the polar opposite, this is to get it to 50/50 to give the Dems control of the WH and full Congress.

I think this is wishful thinking. I don't see GA voting for the Dems, feel both GOP candidates would win this runoff.

[zonacats8]

Originally Posted by byronscott4ever

Was Trump’s plan all along to trash mail in votes, knowing they’d lean Democratic, and then claim fraud once the inevitable happened?

It also makes me wonder what kind of reversal there would have been if Trump handled COVID differently or didn’t have the pandemic

It's be obvious that was the plan all along, because there was no other legitimate reason to not allow states like MI, WI, and PA to count their early votes before Tuesday like in places such as Florida.

And I'm 100% convinced if Trump handled Covid properly, he'd have won this election in a massive landslide, one of the biggest electoral wins of all time.

He gambled with American's health for his own purposes and lost both

[tier1dc]

Originally Posted by GOWIFB

I think this is wishful thinking. I don't see GA voting for the Dems, feel both GOP candidates would win this runoff.

wait to see how much money gets spent in those run offs.

probably record setting.

[Scottish Punk]

Originally Posted by byronscott4ever

Was Trump’s plan all along to trash mail in votes, knowing they’d lean Democratic, and then claim fraud once the inevitable happened?

Yes, this was the backup plan if results didn't go his way. He has spent his entire career in the court system, so he is very comfortable doing it. Probably assumes loyalty will force the Supreme Court to side with him.

It also makes me wonder what kind of reversal there would have been if Trump handled COVID differently or didn’t have the pandemic

This is the ironic thing. He is claiming being a "wartime" president. They almost always get re-elected. If he did a great job or at least as good as Europe on covid, than I think he would win in a landslide.

[DegaBama]

Originally Posted by zonacats8

I'd hold off on saying they kept the Senate

Kelly will win AZ to get them to 48, if GA has a runoff for both seats, while I know the GOP will run their campaign as it's needed to keep Biden in check, but I don't think it would drive out MORE voters for the GOP than this election just did.

If anything, not having Trump on the ticket will really hurt their turnout, while the Dems will run the polar opposite, this is to get it to 50/50 to give the Dems control of the WH and full Congress.

It's pretty much over but there is a chance. That would be terrible if one party had full control.

[Jgil316]

Originally Posted by GOWIFB

I think this is wishful thinking. I don't see GA voting for the Dems, feel both GOP candidates would win this runoff.

If Georgia goes blue - Loeffler is in trouble as she ran her whole campaign on being 100% with Trump.

Purdue race was close and it could be a toss up if money comes in.

[zonacats8]

Originally Posted by GOWIFB

I think this is wishful thinking. I don't see GA voting for the Dems, feel both GOP candidates would win this runoff.

If Biden ends up winning the state, even if he doesn't given how close it is, I think it's much more of a real possibility than you'd imagine.

The real GOPers in the state will show up to vote, but all those Trump die-hard's won't, they won't care about keeping the Senate as they don't care about politics, they just love Trump.

Just look at how bad 2018 went without him on the ticket

[pskell02]

Originally Posted by lionsfan20

You would be a lot less annoying if you would just admit you are a liberal already. Every post you make is either supporting Dem or liberal views or bashing Republicans. Just give up the charade already. Nobody is buying it. Many people here would respect you more if you were honest.

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Not to defend, but there are a lot of us R or former R's (Libertarian over here) who hate what the current Republican party has become under Trump/McConnell. They have destroyed the party that I used to love. Now I haven't voted R in presidential race since Romney, despite leaning conservative.

[Swipe79]

I believe that the state legislature can make changes to allow them to start counting early - all three of those states have republican majorities in the house. They even had the chance to do it this year and said no.

Originally Posted by zonacats8

It's be obvious that was the plan all along, because there was no other legitimate reason to not allow states like MI, WI, and PA to count their early votes before Tuesday like in places such as Florida.

And I'm 100% convinced if Trump handled Covid properly, he'd have won this election in a massive landslide, one of the biggest electoral wins of all time.

He gambled with American's health for his own purposes and lost both

[Jgil316]

Originally Posted by DegaBama

It's pretty much over but there is a chance. That would be terrible if one party had full control.

The first 2 years of Trump, Republicans had full control.

Was that not good either?

[yanksfan1]

Originally Posted by Jgil316

If Georgia goes blue - Loeffler is in trouble as she ran her whole campaign on being 100% with Trump.

Purdue race was close and it could be a toss up if money comes in.

I think most people would vote for either both Loeffler/Perdue or both Warnock/Ossoff. If you're splitting that ticket, it's probably Warnock and Perdue. Loeffler is such an awful candidate

[cnewby]

How am I going to get up and go to work tomorrow?!?!?!?!?!

[DegaBama]

Originally Posted by Jgil316

The first 2 years of Trump, Republicans had full control.

Was that not good either?

Nope. It went well with policies for me but overall, it's always dangerous.

[zonacats8]

Originally Posted by Swipe79

I believe that the state legislature can make changes to allow them to start counting early - all three of those states have republican majorities in the house. They even had the chance to do it this year and said no.

Not only did they have a chance to do it, the Dems in those states fought HARD to get the chance and the GOP fought them all the way and shot it down.

Again, this really isn't debatable, it was clear even before Tuesday that it was their plan, it's been talked about for weeks now how the election night results would favor Trump and then start to be competitive as the mail in votes in those 3 states started to be counted.

There is no surprise here with that at all