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Old 11-05-2020, 09:20 PM   #59251
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They just said there are still 5,000+ to come out of Clayton County in GA, the last dump from there was 1,154 to 165 for Biden

Given the current 2,400 gap, that county could be massive for the outcome of the election right now.
No they did not. CNN did. (I have it on.)

It's less. In any event; w/ such small margins in votes left now, really won't matter much. State won't be called for a while, added votes come in tomorrow and the recount will happen. So they'll be media stories here and there about changes in votes for a bit.

Margin will be amazing. I'm very thankful the election will not hinge on either GA or AZ.
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Yep, this is one of Trump's contingency plans. Whether or not the GOP is brazen enough to do this is the question. I feel that they are and so I won't feel comfortable that even if Biden wins that he actually becomes President. Only after he gets sworn in will I believe it.
I don't think they'd do it at that point, they'd realize it's their chance to try and move past Trump and not deal with him for another 4 years until 2024.

The risk is too high if they try that, could backfire badly
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No they did not. CNN did. (I have it on.)

It's less. In any event; w/ such small margins in votes left now, really won't matter much. State won't be called for a while, added votes come in tomorrow and the recount will happen. So they'll be media stories here and there about changes in votes for a bit.

Margin will be amazing. I'm very thankful the election will not hinge on either GA or AZ.
At this point, I don't think CNN is pumping up those numbers to give hope, they're being pretty straight up I feel.

Now could the information be outdated as this stuff can update at any minute? Of course, but even then, I can't imagine it's far off of the current status.
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I don't think they'd do it at that point, they'd realize it's their chance to try and move past Trump and not deal with him for another 4 years until 2024.

The risk is too high if they try that, could backfire badly
You would think so but the GOP has been stripping the governor powers after they lost those elections, they had been refusing for years to appoint Obama judicial nominees, etc. They get more and more bold and keep retaining their support no matter what. I don't think they are that concerned about a potential political backlash. I think the threat of the potential violence that could erupt would give them more pause than anything. Plus like you said, the GOP has the opportunity to drop Trump since he already gave them what they wanted. He has packed the courts and maintained or gained GOP seats in Congress. They probably don't need anything else from Trump at this point. He can be discarded.
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Yep, this is one of Trump's contingency plans. Whether or not the GOP is brazen enough to do this is the question. I feel that they are and so I won't feel comfortable that even if Biden wins that he actually becomes President. Only after he gets sworn in will I believe it.
If I were an anarchist, I’d be curious to see what exactly would happen to this country if states did that.

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Not my hero.....next....

Im anti-Trump...not anti-republican.

And BTW—-lame duck youtube drama. Wonder what its about....Fox? Oh so its juicy!!!
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I am watching both CNN and Fox and all the interviews with actual observers as well as video evidence of potential fraud are hard to ignore. Of course CNN is not talking about any of the potential fraud. Just saying it's all lies and everything is on the up and up lol.

Again I believe these things have happened every election as we have convictions to prove it. Dems and Reps have claimed as much in the past elections. Difference is this race likely comes down to a handful of votes and the fraud could cost Trump the election.

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I am watching both CNN and Fox and all the interviews with actual observers as well as video evidence of potential fraud are hard to ignore. Of course CNN is not talking about any of the potential fraud. Just saying it's all lies and everything is on the up and up lol.

Again I believe these things have happened every election as we have convictions to prove it. Dems and Reps have claimed as much in the past elections. Difference is this race likely comes down to a handful of votes and the fraud could cost Trump the election.

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The GOP and Dem's are all allowed. They just have to be 6+ feet away. Philadelphia had a live stream of it.

Hanniy has Ted Cruz on. This is so hard to watch
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I am watching both CNN and Fox and all the interviews with actual observers as well as video evidence of potential fraud are hard to ignore. Of course CNN is not talking about any of the potential fraud. Just saying it's all lies and everything is on the up and up lol.

Again I believe these things have happened every election as we have convictions to prove it. Dems and Reps have claimed as much in the past elections. Difference is this race likely comes down to a handful of votes and the fraud could cost Trump the election.

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Hannity is bad, Hannity + Cruz is terrible, I see Newt on deck. How do people watch this?

Side note - Do you think they will be happy when they don't need to support Trump?
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The GOP and Dem's are all allowed. They just have to be 6+ feet away. Philadelphia had a live stream of it.

Hanniy has Ted Cruz on. This is so hard to watch
Yea I tried watching a few minutes of that and it was bad, he's just an embarrassment of how far up Trump's ass he is
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Hannity is bad, Hannity + Cruz is terrible, I see Newt on deck. How do people watch this?

Side note - Do you think they will be happy when they don't need to support Trump?
Same reason people love Don Lemon and Anderson Cooper.
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Side note - Do you think they will be happy when they don't need to support Trump?
Prob not, as far as ratings are concerned... A Ton of Trump Sycophants watch
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Hannity is bad, Hannity + Cruz is terrible, I see Newt on deck. How do people watch this?

Side note - Do you think they will be happy when they don't need to support Trump?
I think they'll all enjoy it more as it will be more fun for them to attack Biden than it has been to support Trump.
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Possibly. Either way it's shady and people questioning it are just laughed off and told to suck it up. Nothing to see here. That should not be the reaction. If there is nothing to hide then there should be no problem investigating these allegations. Hopefully that will happen in the days and weeks to come. I want to have faith that whoever wins is legitimate and that both parties can trust the system. The whole thing makes me a little sick to my stomach. I had pretty high faith in our election system coming into this. Now I am wondering if my vote was even counted. I would love to be an observer next election just so I can see for myself how the whole process works.

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I am watching both CNN and Fox and all the interviews with actual observers as well as video evidence of potential fraud are hard to ignore. Of course CNN is not talking about any of the potential fraud. Just saying it's all lies and everything is on the up and up lol.

Again I believe these things have happened every election as we have convictions to prove it. Dems and Reps have claimed as much in the past elections. Difference is this race likely comes down to a handful of votes and the fraud could cost Trump the election.

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Hanniy has Ted Cruz on. This is so hard to watch
Why is it that the only people being removed seem to be republican observers or reps? Why are the election sorters cheering when they are removed? These people should at least appear to be unbiased since they are handling all the ballots. They should have more integrity than that.

I'm not a big fan of Cruz either but he seems to have some first hand knowledge of this sort of thing since he worked on the Bush legal team during the Gore recount. So I give him some credit.

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I am watching both CNN and Fox and all the interviews with actual observers as well as video evidence of potential fraud are hard to ignore. Of course CNN is not talking about any of the potential fraud. Just saying it's all lies and everything is on the up and up lol.

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You mean like the video evidence of them wheeling in crates of votes for Biden in Detroit that has since been proven to be a reporter wheeling in equipment for them to use?
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Why is it that the only people being removed seem to be republican observers or reps? Why are the election sorters cheering when they are removed? These people should at least appear to be unbiased since they are handling all the ballots. They should have more integrity than that.

I'm not a big fan of Cruz either but he seems to have some first hand knowledge of this sort of thing since he worked on the Bush legal team during the Gore recount. So I give him some credit.

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Why is it that the only people being removed seem to be republican observers or reps? Why are the election sorters cheering when they are removed? These people should at least appear to be unbiased since they are handling all the ballots. They should have more integrity than that.

I'm not a big fan of Cruz either but he seems to have some first hand knowledge of this sort of thing since he worked on the Bush legal team during the Gore recount. So I give him some credit.

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Im not there so I can't answer the truth behind that. When I listened to not Fox News and they spoke to people in charge they said everyone could watch they just had to stay 6+ feet away. They also had live feeds that you could watch from home. Notice how that isn't mentioned on Fox?

My guess, the people broke a rule such as recording, going somewhere they weren't permitted or they were just making too much noise and distracting people from doing their work and getting the votes counted.
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So if Hannity and Cruz are bad then what do you call Don Lemon and Anderson Cooper?
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Why is it that the only people being removed seem to be republican observers or reps? Why are the election sorters cheering when they are removed? These people should at least appear to be unbiased since they are handling all the ballots. They should have more integrity than that.

I'm not a big fan of Cruz either but he seems to have some first hand knowledge of this sort of thing since he worked on the Bush legal team during the Gore recount. So I give him some credit.

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Also bad. Intolerable is another god word. Smug?
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