2022 NBA Playoffs Thread

[TSonn]

Originally Posted by 2010GBPackers

I'm guessing you missed Poole's interview on TNT's post game show, then. Kerr told the team, if they make 30-35 threes, pat them on the back and move on to the next game.

Expect Dallas getting as many looks at three in the next game. Odds are, they'll win one of the next two, but that won't be enough. They need both.

All coaches say that because how many teams have lost when hitting 30+ 3 pointers? Tip their hat to them and move on. He didn't say "it's our game plan to give them wide open 3s so they have an opportunity to make 30+ 3s" lol.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

You weren’t pumping the gold. You don’t pump cards you don’t own. You just wanted everyone to know you had $400k to drop on it. Again, we’re not stupid here.

So what's the official limit on how much we can discuss wanting to spend on cards?

5 figures?

4 figures?


I want to know because if we want to discuss realistic valuations of what transacting in the high end market is going to look like, I need to know what's off limits. Then I'll take that information over to the Brady thread, because let me tell you, there are some absolutely whales over there holding Championship tickets, and it would hurt a lot of feelings if they mentioned what they could get for them, apparently.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by Zedlaw

They established zero rhythm to even give those shots a chance.

Well, a lot of that had to do with the halftime adjustments Kerr made to the Warriors defense.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by Dnic

They can be beat unless the other team just keeps chucking up 3s missing them and turning those into empty possessions, if they do make it past the Mavs I hope which ever team comes out of the East completely dominates them.

You and your sour grapes can hope all you want, but it's not going to happen, especially with the Warriors having home court advantage in the Finals if they make it.

If it's Miami, the Warriors win in five.

If it's Boston, the series goes seven and is decided in the last minute of Game 7.

[Dnic]

Originally Posted by mfw13

You and your sour grapes can hope all you want, but it's not going to happen, especially with the Warriors having home court advantage in the Finals if they make it.

If it's Miami, the Warriors win in five.

If it's Boston, the series goes seven and is decided in the last minute of Game 7.

You know what the problem is with you so called warrior fans? You guys only come out when they are doing good, kind of like your team typical front runners.

[bulljh]

Originally Posted by Dnic

You know what the problem is with you so called warrior fans? You guys only come out when they are doing good, kind of like your team typical front runners.

Most of us Warriors fans have decided that we’d rather just sit back and read the thread than participate going back and forth with jealous whiners such as yourself.

[Zedlaw]

Originally Posted by mfw13

Well, a lot of that had to do with the halftime adjustments Kerr made to the Warriors defense.

Maybe, and game three will tell us more. But to me it looked like Dallas thought 75 pts was going to win this thing and they simply stopped competing.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by Dnic

You know what the problem is with you so called warrior fans? You guys only come out when they are doing good, kind of like your team typical front runners.

I've been a Warriors fan since the 1970's.....probably long before you were even born.....

I still have the ticket stub from the first Warriors game I ever went to.....in 1977.....

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by tjforce

The Dubs ripped them in the paint the second half.

Just like in Game 1....

Warriors have figured out that Dallas can't defend the rim, and once they figure out your weakness, they attack it relentlessly.

[mfw13]

Originally Posted by TSonn

All coaches say that because how many teams have lost when hitting 30+ 3 pointers?

None, because no team has ever made 30+ threes in a game.

Heck, the Warriors team record is only 27 (all-time record holder is Milwaukee, with 29 on 12/29/2020).

[RogerGodahell]

The commissioners office owes GS for helping keep them afloat while they're drowning in debt. If someone pays you $250 million a year in donations (luxury taxes) you'd probably tend to give them favorable treatment. The NBA had to take out a $1 billion loan 2 years ago. They need every penny they can get and GS are their biggest annual donors.

[ninjacookies]

Luka is amazing offensively. 42 points on a much higher efficiency night than usual for him.

But was a starter-worst -12. Warriors are going at him defensively.


Dallas' bench was non existent. Dinwiddie needs to be more involved.

Steph finally with a vintage performance. Crazy how Klay's had to do very little for them to win these first 2.

Do or die for Dallas game 3.

[tjforce]

Originally Posted by RogerGodahell

The commissioners office owes GS for helping keep them afloat while they're drowning in debt. If someone pays you $250 million a year in donations (luxury taxes) you'd probably tend to give them favorable treatment. The NBA had to take out a $1 billion loan 2 years ago. They need every penny they can get and GS are their biggest annual donors.

It never fails....

Funny way to fix a game by handing out 4 more free throws to the team you are fixing to lose.

[KaMiKaZie510]

Originally Posted by RogerGodahell

The commissioners office owes GS for helping keep them afloat while they're drowning in debt. If someone pays you $250 million a year in donations (luxury taxes) you'd probably tend to give them favorable treatment. The NBA had to take out a $1 billion loan 2 years ago. They need every penny they can get and GS are their biggest annual donors.

Facts. Warriors fan got that dough

[punctilious]

https://hoopshype.com/salaries/

Mark Cuban, stop being so cheap.

[rhigh2390]

Originally Posted by RogerGodahell

The commissioners office owes GS for helping keep them afloat while they're drowning in debt. If someone pays you $250 million a year in donations (luxury taxes) you'd probably tend to give them favorable treatment. The NBA had to take out a $1 billion loan 2 years ago. They need every penny they can get and GS are their biggest annual donors.

Why is the NBA in that much debt?!?

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by tjforce

So what's the official limit on how much we can discuss wanting to spend on cards?

5 figures?

4 figures?


I want to know because if we want to discuss realistic valuations of what transacting in the high end market is going to look like, I need to know what's off limits. Then I'll take that information over to the Brady thread, because let me tell you, there are some absolutely whales over there holding Championship tickets, and it would hurt a lot of feelings if they mentioned what they could get for them, apparently.

Look up the word “tact” in the dictionary, then find yourself some. You’re Blowout’s version of TTOP.

[sportzluvr1]

"They say I'm cocky, and I say what!? It ain't braggin' mf if you can back it up"

-Kid Rock

[rustywest]

Originally Posted by RogerGodahell

The commissioners office owes GS for helping keep them afloat while they're drowning in debt. If someone pays you $250 million a year in donations (luxury taxes) you'd probably tend to give them favorable treatment. The NBA had to take out a $1 billion loan 2 years ago. They need every penny they can get and GS are their biggest annual donors.

So where was ye when ya bud was convinced and spouting out diarrhea that the league was rigging games for the Memphis Grizzlies?

[GOATcards]

Originally Posted by ninjacookies

Luka is amazing offensively. 42 points on a much higher efficiency night than usual for him.

But was a starter-worst -12. Warriors are going at him defensively.

The advanced box score shows a lot more useful info than raw plus-minus:
https://www.basketball-reference.com...205200GSW.html

You can tell by BPM more or less who was producing in the game.

I keep saying, without anyone showing a shred of evidence otherwise, that raw plus-minus is useless, I wouldn't even call it information.

If you play most minutes of a game, your raw plus-minus is likely to look a lot like the score in the game. Gee, Luka's -12 was pretty darn close to the team's -9. You'll find the pattern repeat time and time again, dare I say without exception?

So Luka being -12? That tells me his team lost by roughly that margin, but nothing else of any explanatory value. His teammates didn't show up well enough to win despite his high-BPM (~19) performance, is all.

Unless of course you can tell me the reasons you know why you reference raw plus-minus. Imagine a Bill James of basketball looking at all kinds of numbers trying to determine what ones convey the most useful information. I can't imagine such an analyst coming up with anything about raw plus-minus saying it's useful/informative. Do you think GMs use raw plus-minus to assess a player's value? If so, they're either dumb or I'm dumb for missing what raw plus-minus tells us that other numbers don't/can't.

My hunch based on accumulated experience is that it's useless when applied to individual players, and only became cited as by folks because the concept behind it ("plus-minus") is certainly sound, but it's measures like BPM that actually give you mostly/generally useful info on roughly how much value a player brings (aside from "intangibles" that somehow don't manifest in box scores I guess?).

MJ's 63 point game against the Celtics? I would guess that his raw +/- in that game was somewhere close to -4 despite his obviously legendary value-added there.

[daeve]

^it's true (&obvious) that Luka played much better than "-12", and I do like that advanced box score feature. At the same time, Luka does tend to make some critical defensive mistakes, which could also partly be from tiredness.

https://streamable.com/w66hos

But take the dagger 3 play as an example - and it illustrates why a team like GS is so dangerous due to their multiple weapons.

Look at the great defense Brunson plays on Poole, forces him to give it up, then Bullock takes on Klay and while Klay did get a little bit of a step on him on the drive, Kleber is in the right spot to help so Klay dishes it out once he sees that, and for some reason Luka is giving Stephen Curry, the best shooter of all-time, all the room in the world.

Lazy/tired closeout which Steph easily sidesteps to sink the dagger. ballgame.

Having multiple elite options who can drive/dribble/kick/shoot means GS can afford to test the defense and wear down the shot clock while still ending up with a great look/shot, after finding the hole or weak link.

[Nomad]

Originally Posted by rhigh2390

Really hope GS and Boston Finals will have some good games!

How could it not? Quality of the finals is inverse to the degree of blowouts in the semis, as long as it happens in both series.

[dunkindutchmen]

Originally Posted by RogerGodahell

The commissioners office owes GS for helping keep them afloat while they're drowning in debt. If someone pays you $250 million a year in donations (luxury taxes) you'd probably tend to give them favorable treatment. The NBA had to take out a $1 billion loan 2 years ago. They need every penny they can get and GS are their biggest annual donors.

And go look at why the NBA took out that loan....

Might want to look at sports league business structures. There isn't a league in the U.S. that isn't in debt. It is extremely stable debt in the case of the NBA.

"$250 million a year donation to the league" is way off as well. It's much lower than that, and 2) half of that money gets distributed to the non-tax teams.

[Nomad]

I believe that the NBA wants a lengthier series. They also want a new star. That would favor the Mavs.

[bulljh]

Originally Posted by Nomad

I believe that the NBA wants a lengthier series. They also want a new star. That would favor the Mavs.

Your theory isn’t working