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Old 06-26-2020, 08:19 PM   #576
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My 1 box...3 RPA/RJA's...and the one pack that did not have a thick card...came this:



/25 ZION!
Amazing hit! Congrats!
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Old 06-26-2020, 08:28 PM   #577
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I don't see how box prices are trending up. Didn't you read what the couple "blowout billionaire braniacs" said in this thread? This 2019-20 Spectra FOTL is hot garbage. 2018-19 was much better. Who would want a 2019-20 FOTL box with a /39 RPA and 1 other RPA, 2 RJA's and bunch of nice rookie base when you can get a 2018-19 Spectra FOTL box with half as many cards, an extra one color $5 jersey card, zero RPA's, and a /9 base card?!?

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Old 06-26-2020, 08:40 PM   #578
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Possible logoman, other 1/1s, 4 autos per box. FOTL will no doubt hit $1500/box. Plus, Zion can't get hurt until he plays again so the hype will stay for at least a while longer!

Plus the last 3 regular non FOTL boxes have sold for $1250, $880 and $999.

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Old 06-26-2020, 08:45 PM   #579
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I don't see how box prices are trending up.
It’s because they haven’t.

2 sales today so far on eBay. No breakers filling breaks of this stuff (Layton has yet to fill theirs, 7 in stock in break 1, 20 in break 4). No BO offer currently. Platinum isn’t offering (allegedly).

2 Sales today of $1200 and $1250.
3 sales yesterday at $1500, $1300, and $1225.

Huge movement!
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Old 06-26-2020, 08:49 PM   #580
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Does anyone know how much the Coby FOTL went for?
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Old 06-26-2020, 08:50 PM   #581
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Does anyone know how much the Coby FOTL went for?
A measly $500.
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Old 06-26-2020, 08:50 PM   #582
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Does anyone know how much the Coby FOTL went for?
$500.
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Old 06-26-2020, 08:56 PM   #583
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It’s because they haven’t.

2 sales today so far on eBay. No breakers filling breaks of this stuff (Layton has yet to fill theirs, 7 in stock in break 1, 20 in break 4). No BO offer currently. Platinum isn’t offering (allegedly).

2 Sales today of $1200 and $1250.
3 sales yesterday at $1500, $1300, and $1225.

Huge movement!
The no breakers filling breaks thing is false, Steel City Collectibles is filling up 2-box breaks pretty regularly tonight, i've been watching the stream here and there. They are pulling in $3k per.
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Old 06-26-2020, 08:57 PM   #584
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It’s because they haven’t.

2 sales today so far on eBay. No breakers filling breaks of this stuff (Layton has yet to fill theirs, 7 in stock in break 1, 20 in break 4). No BO offer currently. Platinum isn’t offering (allegedly).

2 Sales today of $1200 and $1250.
3 sales yesterday at $1500, $1300, and $1225.

Huge movement!

They are not selling because most sellers are auto declining anything $1250 or less. I am trying but I get autodecline or counters of $14-1500.
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A measly $500.
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$500.
Thanks guys. That's pretty good considering it's a redemption.

I just saw a box on YouTube. Gold LeBron, RJ FOTL RPA, RJ parallel to 49, Bol Bol RJA to 99, PJ parallel to 99, Porzingis auto, Zion and Ja base.

It seems that they really, really loaded these boxes. On the other side, regular Hobby is gonna take a big hit I guess.
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Thanks guys. That's pretty good considering it's a redemption.

I just saw a box on YouTube. Gold LeBron, RJ FOTL RPA, RJ parallel to 49, Bol Bol RJA to 99, PJ parallel to 99, Porzingis auto, Zion and Ja base.

It seems that they really, really loaded these boxes. On the other side, regular Hobby is gonna take a big hit I guess.
Explain to me why hobby can't be good if FOTL is loaded?
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They are not selling because most sellers are auto declining anything $1250 or less. I am trying but I get autodecline or counters of $14-1500.
Edit: and its more than 2 boxes sold...plenty of sellers have sold more than 1 box in the same transaction so it might show up as only 2 boxes sold.
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The no breakers filling breaks thing is false, Steel City Collectibles is filling up 2-box breaks pretty regularly tonight, i've been watching the stream here and there. They are pulling in $3k per.
I stand corrected.

Usually when I check breakers I’m checking Matt, Platinum, Layton, Chris since they’re pretty much the industry leaders.

That $3K is nuts when Layton can’t fill their @ $1387.50 per.
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Old 06-26-2020, 09:04 PM   #589
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$11,500
If paid for
I can confirm it was paid for. Wonder what the subsequent ones or the golds will go for.
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Old 06-26-2020, 09:06 PM   #590
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$50 in value? You get 16 cards. 4 autos and 1 an rpa /39 or /3. Every single /39 will sell for over $50 alone.
Ty Jerome NT /99 is going for $100-$150. I wouldn’t touch Spectra of him for $50.
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Received a $9400 offer ($1175/ea) for my 8 boxes from a trustworthy group breaker.

There definitely is interest.

@Yiguri was against the product beginning of today, now is a big fan. Cool to see the product is loaded.
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Explain to me why hobby can't be good if FOTL is loaded?
It seems like RJA/RPA should be about 1 per box. FOTL is hitting at a higher rate which means that Hobby will hit at a lower one.

You should get 1 top rookie or vet parallel per box (LeBron/Luka/Giannis/Curry/Top 10 rookies). Most FOTL boxes seem to be getting 2 of these which means Hobby won't hit as much.

Color Blasts could be the savers though. Haven't seen much of those.
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Explain to me why hobby can't be good if FOTL is loaded?
There are 15,960 total RPA/RJA autos (it’s less because Zion has fewer and Ja has fewer, but we’ll use that).

1230ish total cases = 9,840 boxes

This means you should get 1.6 RPA/RJA per box. When dudes are busting these and pulling 3, that takes them out of the hobby supply. I suspect Hobby boxes will have 3 as well though, the same way some NT cases have had twice the average of RPAs and a handful have had none.
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I stand corrected.

Usually when I check breakers I’m checking Matt, Platinum, Layton, Chris since they’re pretty much the industry leaders.

That $3K is nuts when Layton can’t fill their @ $1387.50 per.
It's actually live right now if you want to check it out, they just finished up another 2-boxer, they are doing $299.99 for 3 random teams, 10 spots. I think they only have 2 more boxes of Spectra FOTL though. There's also a live break in this facebook group i'm in as well going on right now. The boxes have been less than stellar player-name wise, but the multiple RPA/RJA thing happens regularly it seems, which is a good thing.
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Thybulle FOTL /39 sold for $50.
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Received a $9400 offer ($1175/ea) for my 8 boxes from a trustworthy group breaker.

There definitely is interest.

@Yiguri was against the product beginning of today, now is a big fan. Cool to see the product is loaded.
I keep it real. It does seem that they loaded FOTL, I would have still be against it if it had been spread out.
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I can confirm it was paid for. Wonder what the subsequent ones or the golds will go for.
For your sake, I really hope the buyer doesn't return because that card value will DROP fast IMO.
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There are 15,960 total RPA/RJA autos (it’s less because Zion has fewer and Ja has fewer, but we’ll use that).

1230ish total cases = 9,840 boxes

This means you should get 1.6 RPA/RJA per box. When dudes are busting these and pulling 3, that takes them out of the hobby supply. I suspect Hobby boxes will have 3 as well though, the same way some NT cases have had twice the average of RPAs and a handful have had none.
Man, I was way off. Did you include the duals?
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I keep it real. It does seem that they loaded FOTL, I would have still be against it if it had been spread out.

I love the product but I got absolutely smoked on my box with a Luka Samanic gold RPA /3 and then a Culver auto /49 as by far the second best card. So not every box is a winner but some of these are crazy loaded.


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Man, I was way off. Did you include the duals?
I didn’t. There are 95 of those though. 1:100 boxes.

I also did the numbers like Zion had the same runs as the bums and he doesn’t, he has less.
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