*** OFFICIAL 2024 WORLD SERIES THREAD - New York Yankees vs. Los Angeles Dodgers ***

[whitmm]

Originally Posted by redauto5

Yeah that 3 game sample sure is telling. Rats!

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Yeah, let's wait until game 162 of the 2024 World Series before we offering any commentary on how a player did.

[dodgerfanjohn]

Originally Posted by coltsnsox07

Which Yankee is gonna say 'Don't let us win tonight' tomorrow..
Also, this Series between two huge fan(collector) bases is awfully quiet here.

Yankees fans, like most east coasters, love to talk. And taking they were until about halfway through game two.

Dodger fans have had sufficient pain and misery that we basically bite our nails all the way to the (often) bitter end.

[DMACcollector]

Originally Posted by dodgerfanjohn

Dodger fans have had sufficient pain and misery that we basically bite our nails all the way to the (often) bitter end.

Yes we do.

[jdandns]

Originally Posted by whitmm

The whole playoffs weren't the MVP vs MVP matchup. They have two hits combined.

It's been a let down for baseball fans.

I sure hope they'll be able to get over it.

[atk825]

Originally Posted by DMACcollector

Absolutely, but I still think he could've been rested tonight.

Why? He still got on base twice and got a runner over who then scored.

[whitmm]

Originally Posted by jdandns

I sure hope they'll be able to get over it.

One of them will have a much easier time getting over it.

The excuses being made here are laughable. How about call it what it is. The two players that are going to win the regular season MVPs have basically no-showed in the World Series.

We aren't talking about careers here, we're are talking about the 2024 World Series.

[Rbradleigh]

Originally Posted by rats60

Ohtani's OPS in the World Series is .467. The only player who has choked harder is Aaron Judge.

And if the Dodgers win the real answer is who gives a poop what Ohtani hit in the series.

[whitmm]

Originally Posted by Rbradleigh

And if the Dodgers win the real answer is who gives a poop what Ohtani hit in the series.

The same people that hate that Acuna got a ring in 2021.

[bavariancream]

Originally Posted by Stifle

I believe he wasn’t expecting to be sent home with a ball hit directly in front of the LF. Right or center he would not have looked so clumsy going around 3rd. Still took 2 Dodgers to execute perfectly.

Guy is built like an athlete who can’t run.


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[hammertime]

Originally Posted by whitmm

The same people that hate that Acuna got a ring in 2021.

Apples and oranges.

[whitmm]

Originally Posted by hammertime

Apples and oranges.

Why is it so hard for people to say Ohtani hasn't had that good of a series? It's great that Freeman and Teoscar have played well to get him that ring.

How dare people talk about individual performances though, right?

And it's literally not. Acuna helped his team win the World Series that year, he earned the ring. His play in the regular season contributed to them making the playoffs.

[jdandns]

The series isn't over yet.

[hammertime]

Originally Posted by whitmm

Why is it so hard for people to say Ohtani hasn't had that good of a series? It's great that Freeman and Teoscar have played well to get him that ring.

How dare people talk about individual performances though, right?

Acuna missed half the season and didn't play in the postseason at all. That's nothing like the situation with Ohtani. That's all I was saying, not sure what you're so wound up about.

[whitmm]

Originally Posted by hammertime

Acuna missed half the season and didn't play in the postseason at all. That's nothing like the situation with Ohtani. That's all I was saying, not sure what you're so wound up about.

Because you guys want to say it doesn't matter that Ohtani hasn't been good in the WS because they're winning.

If the Dodgers win, are you going to say Glasgow and Kershaw don't deserve rings? How about if it's a sweep and Pages doesn't get in, can he call himself a WS champ?

[jdandns]

Of course he could. He's on the WS roster.
Kershaw and Glasnow, even more so, would be entitled to one, as well.

Was there really anyone who didn't think Acuna deserved a ring in 2021, despite his being injured for the 2nd half? That's a big, weird leap they were taking. Players have received rings for doing way less contributing than he did that season.

This year, the MVP is Freddie if the Dodgers hold on, and that's even if Ohtani hits for the cycle or has another 3 homer game in the clincher.

If the Yankees come back, it'll go to whatever player ends up being most instrumental to that, with Stanton and Soto having a slight advantage over the others heading into Game 4.

[atk825]

Originally Posted by whitmm

Because you guys want to say it doesn't matter that Ohtani hasn't been good in the WS because they're winning.

If the Dodgers win, are you going to say Glasgow and Kershaw don't deserve rings? How about if it's a sweep and Pages doesn't get in, can he call himself a WS champ?

Glasnow and Kershaw will get rings. It’s not going to be something that’s really more than a footnote in their careers.

Without Ohtani, the Dodgers probably get swept by San Diego.

[whitmm]

Originally Posted by atk825

Glasnow and Kershaw will get rings. It’s not going to be something that’s really more than a footnote in their careers.

Without Ohtani, the Dodgers probably get swept by San Diego.

That's nice, we're talking about the World Series. Ohtani is 1-11 with 2 runs scored. That's not good.

[jdandns]

Scoring-wise, that's better than every Yankee except for Soto, who has scored 3 runs.
No other New York player has scored more than once. (Chisholm, Stanton, Verdugo, and Rizzo have 1 each.)

[BigL7370]

Originally Posted by whitmm

That's nice, we're talking about the World Series. Ohtani is 1-11 with 2 runs scored. That's not good.

Ohtani has sucked this series and made a bonehead move trying to be greedy, stealing second base and messing up his shoulder.

It’s is a big letdown he has not done more, but it’s OK where his notable star teammates have done their thing and have picked him up this series after all he has done up through this point of the year.

[Archangel1775]

Originally Posted by whitmm

That's nice, we're talking about the World Series. Ohtani is 1-11 with 2 runs scored. That's not good.

The Dodgers are more than aware of players having bad series. That's why they loaded their roster with other former MVP's like Mookie Betts and Freddie Freeman. The difference is the Dodgers also invested in pitching signing NPB MVP Yamamoto. Signing Teoscar Herandez was also one of the best signings in recent years they've made outside of Ohtani and Yamamoto.

[Crunchy333]

Ohtani isnt performing well in this WS for sure.
But he tied the game in G1 with that double that ended up with sac fly and brought it to extra innings.
Other than that game.. he didnt need to hit , freeman carried the team.
And dont worry, more WS chances for Ohtani to play and perform in the next 5 years
He hits 50/50 this year and the expectations becomes too high..

[jhssketchcards]

I don’t think the issue of Ohtani winning a WS ring in spite of a “bad” performance is the problem with some. Acuna winning a ring with Atlanta was referenced and while similar, that comparison isn’t applicable in my opinion.
Acuna getting hurt, which ended his season, was 100% out of his control as we all know. The Braves replaced him with some key acquisitions that wound up having some very key hits in the playoffs. Rosario and Soler were huge. Rosario was the NLCS MVP for his efforts and Soler won the WS MVP. While Acuna was on the playoff roster, the two guys brought in to fill his shoes were two of the best trade deadline acquisitions in history related to a teams postseason push and title. Did Acuna contribute to their team success down the stretch? Yes but getting hurt in July was a huge blow with so much season left, and there’s no way to know if his bat would have gone silent the rest of the year or in the playoffs. The reality is Atlanta didn’t NEED Acuna in the postseason to win the WS in 2021.
They needed Rosario and Soler, plus a roster that turned it on plus great pitching. Acuna did deserve his ring as a regular season contributor that year but there will always be a “yeah but” if Acuna never plays in another WS and wins.
Ohtani is the eventual MVP as we all know (rightfully so) and his postseason has been really good overall up to the WS. He hasn’t done much this WS but he IS on the field, and at bat. Unlike Acuna who didn’t have WS opportunities, Ohtani’s WS play is 100% in his control. While he is contributing as LA marches to a potential ring, he’s definitely not been Shotime, while Freeman has proven he’s one of the greatest WS players in history. Ohtani in fact has earned his WS ring if LA wins, but it won’t have the same collector luster as if he had hit 2-3 HR and batted over .350. It would be great for Ohtani to win and add to his HOF resume but there likely won’t be a WS moment that is etched in memories more than “The Slide” heard ‘round the world.
Freeman meanwhile is on track for his second WS ring and has a better WS legacy than Acuna, Ohtani and many, many other players combined.


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[Bosoxfan5990]

Going to be a pathetic showing by the Yankees if they get swept.

[KhalDrogo]

Thrilled for Buehler. I would imagine his NLCS and WS work solidified his chances of coming back next year.

[NYRE2PECT]

Originally Posted by whitmm

That's nice, we're talking about the World Series. Ohtani is 1-11 with 2 runs scored. That's not good.

You are about as cheery as a bowl full of dates.