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Old 09-14-2018, 10:52 PM   #6001
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Old 09-14-2018, 11:39 PM   #6002
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This isn't mine but it's actually a good deal if anyone is looking for 2002 PSA 10s.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2002-Topps-...EAAOSwAIBbnIUw
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Old 09-15-2018, 12:46 AM   #6003
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So I thought this idiot was just changing out the patches in the jersey cards. But here the listing is for number 12/24 and he says he has 3 available? I really hope he didn't ruin these rare cards but I have a feeling they are all fake.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2002-PACIFI...8AAOSwcMhbnCKk
Theyre ALL fake.. and hes from MA.

God help him if I see these cards at a local show, dude is getting outed.

I'd really like to see how he reacts when I bring the organizers over to him and tell him to his face what a scum bag he is.
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Old 09-15-2018, 08:27 AM   #6004
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Theyre ALL fake.. and hes from MA.

God help him if I see these cards at a local show, dude is getting outed.

I'd really like to see how he reacts when I bring the organizers over to him and tell him to his face what a scum bag he is.
He's a scumbag. I asked him how he had 3 12/24 cards and he said that was a typo. But then he sent a pic of another one. This one had a "12" for the patch. Does he really think that Brady collectors are this stupid. He keeps putting patches that didn't exist on cards from 2002. I really hope no one falls for it.
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Old 09-15-2018, 05:28 PM   #6005
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He's a scumbag. I asked him how he had 3 12/24 cards and he said that was a typo. But then he sent a pic of another one. This one had a "12" for the patch. Does he really think that Brady collectors are this stupid. He keeps putting patches that didn't exist on cards from 2002. I really hope no one falls for it.
They will fall for it though.. there is always someone.
Unfortunately there are too many people that just dont realize that laundry tags and NFL Jersey logos etc.. are NOT put into non serial numbered cards, and if they are serialed, it's not some random number like 73/99.

When convos like this come up, I tell people that if it's not a 1/1, or 2/2, 3/3, etc.. if the card doesnt explicitly mention laundry tag, NFL logo, etc..then it's almost certainly fake.
As a brady collector, this infuriates me, because this loser is destroying perfectly good cards, and valuable ones at that.

I dont want to see him, but if I do, I'm going to show interest, and get to haggling with him, record the interaction and I'm engaging the organizers.
Based on his location displayed in the auctions, I'm not sure I will. That's at least an hour from me, and if he sets up at shows, he may not come near me.

I wonder if he'll get suspicious if someone messages him (like me) through Ebay and asks if he sets up at local shows in MA.


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Old 09-15-2018, 06:26 PM   #6006
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They will fall for it though.. there is always someone.
Unfortunately there are too many people that just dont realize that laundry tags and NFL Jersey logos etc.. are NOT put into non serial numbered cards, and if they are serialed, it's not some random number like 73/99.

When convos like this come up, I tell people that if it's not a 1/1, or 2/2, 3/3, etc.. if the card doesnt explicitly mention laundry tag, NFL logo, etc..then it's almost certainly fake.
As a brady collector, this infuriates me, because this loser is destroying perfectly good cards, and valuable ones at that.

I dont want to see him, but if I do, I'm going to show interest, and get to haggling with him, record the interaction and I'm engaging the organizers.
Based on his location displayed in the auctions, I'm not sure I will. That's at least an hour from me, and if he sets up at shows, he may not come near me.

I wonder if he'll get suspicious if someone messages him (like me) through Ebay and asks if he sets up at local shows in MA.


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He's only a few towns over from me, I should ask to meet him in person to look at his great cards. Or maybe he'll be in Mansfield at the show tomorrow.
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Old 09-15-2018, 06:40 PM   #6007
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He's only a few towns over from me, I should ask to meet him in person to look at his great cards. Or maybe he'll be in Mansfield at the show tomorrow.
Unfortunately it looks like 4 or 5 people have already fallen for his cards. I can't believe someone bought that fake Brady auto. Pisses me off as well - the last card he destroyed is /24. It was hard enough to find those 2002s before this idiot started taking them off the market.
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Old 09-15-2018, 06:43 PM   #6008
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Unfortunately it looks like 4 or 5 people have already fallen for his cards. I can't believe someone bought that fake Brady auto. Pisses me off as well - the last card he destroyed is /24. It was hard enough to find those 2002s before this idiot started taking them off the market.
The one /24 linked in this thread is real. Is there another one that's fake?
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Old 09-15-2018, 07:51 PM   #6009
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The one /24 linked in this thread is real. Is there another one that's fake?
The card is real. I don't think the patch is. Look at his other listings. He takes the jersey out and puts other patches in their place. It's very obvious. Already proven a couple pages back where the sold listing was posted and then his new sale with his "flying elvis!" patch added in place of the original one.
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Old 09-15-2018, 08:11 PM   #6010
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He should be selling those on Etsy with his other arts and crafts projects
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Old 09-15-2018, 09:42 PM   #6011
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The card is real. I don't think the patch is. Look at his other listings. He takes the jersey out and puts other patches in their place. It's very obvious. Already proven a couple pages back where the sold listing was posted and then his new sale with his "flying elvis!" patch added in place of the original one.
Isn’t it just a plain navy jersey piece or are we talking about different things? I know lots of his other patches are fake, but this one is real though and through.
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Old 09-15-2018, 10:10 PM   #6012
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Isn’t it just a plain navy jersey piece or are we talking about different things? I know lots of his other patches are fake, but this one is real though and through.
I'm not sure what you're looking at. The link below is the card that I linked originally. Also, just look at his other items for sale. You'll see what we're talking about.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2002-PACIFI...8AAOSwcMhbnCKk
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Old 09-15-2018, 10:12 PM   #6013
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Here's another of his examples
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2002-DONRUS...cAAOSw011bkEz7
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Old 09-15-2018, 10:49 PM   #6014
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Who's planning on bidding on the Brady Rookie Empty box for shits and giggles?


https://www.ebay.com/itm/2000-Playof...r/223139356070

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Old 09-17-2018, 07:02 AM   #6015
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The Rookies & Stars came in. Was indeed a small chip on bottom left where camera flash hid it. That said, for the price I'm still keeping it and was expected. I tried attaching a picture...I'd like to grade it just to protect. Worth submitting with a min grade of 8? Think it has a chance? Card looks solid other than that one chip.
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Old 09-17-2018, 08:54 AM   #6016
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Have a mostly Brady BGS 5 day order expected to POP today... Hoping it goes well....

2004 Topps SB Game used ball Auto /99
2002 Topps Chrome Black Refractor /599
2002 Etopps Auto
2003 Topps Chrome Xfractor /101
and the this other guy below...
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Old 09-17-2018, 09:17 AM   #6017
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The Rookies & Stars came in. Was indeed a small chip on bottom left where camera flash hid it. That said, for the price I'm still keeping it and was expected. I tried attaching a picture...I'd like to grade it just to protect. Worth submitting with a min grade of 8? Think it has a chance? Card looks solid other than that one chip.
If you're keeping it it's worth submitting just for the protection. Hard to see if there are any other issues but I think you're looking at a 7 in a best case scenario. If there is actual paper loss, I think that puts it at a 4 or 5.

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Old 09-17-2018, 09:55 AM   #6018
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Have a mostly Brady BGS 5 day order expected to POP today... Hoping it goes well....

2004 Topps SB Game used ball Auto /99
2002 Topps Chrome Black Refractor /599
2002 Etopps Auto
2003 Topps Chrome Xfractor /101
and the this other guy below...
1954 Bowman Mickey Mantle
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Old 09-17-2018, 03:11 PM   #6019
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Have a mostly Brady BGS 5 day order expected to POP today... Hoping it goes well....

2004 Topps SB Game used ball Auto /99
2002 Topps Chrome Black Refractor /599
2002 Etopps Auto
2003 Topps Chrome Gold Xfractor /101
and the this other guy below...
1954 Bowman Mickey Mantle
Grades added below..
2004 Topps SB Game used ball Auto /99 BGS 9/10 (subs 2 10's, a 9.5 and 8.5 so close....)
2002 Topps Chrome Black Refractor /599 BGS 9 had surface scratch so will take it..
2002 Etopps Auto BGS 9.5/10
2003 Topps Chrome Gold Xfractor /101 BGS 9.5
and the this other guy below...
1954 Bowman Mickey Mantle deemed as recolored

top 2 were bought on Ebay in the past few months raw so there are some good ones out there.
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Old 09-17-2018, 04:17 PM   #6020
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Grades added below..
2004 Topps SB Game used ball Auto /99 BGS 9/10 (subs 2 10's, a 9.5 and 8.5 so close....)
2002 Topps Chrome Black Refractor /599 BGS 9 had surface scratch so will take it..
2002 Etopps Auto BGS 9.5/10
2003 Topps Chrome Gold Xfractor /101 BGS 9.5
and the this other guy below...
1954 Bowman Mickey Mantle deemed as recolored

top 2 were bought on Ebay in the past few months raw so there are some good ones out there.
Nice scores on the Bradys!
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Old 09-18-2018, 02:26 PM   #6021
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And yet another fake. Wonder how many legit cards he has ruined
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2002-PACIFI...EAAOSwSDxboUe4
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And yet another fake. Wonder how many legit cards he has ruined
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2002-PACIFI...EAAOSwSDxboUe4


None of these Pacific cards you keep posting are fake. This is just a non-serial numbered version, which he has correctly listed as a proof. Many exist. It's clear he's faking lots of stuff, but stop being the judge of what is and isn't fake if you can't tell the difference.
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Old 09-18-2018, 02:58 PM   #6023
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And yet another fake. Wonder how many legit cards he has ruined
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2002-PACIFI...EAAOSwSDxboUe4
401djac3878 is selling fake Tom Brady cards on eBay.

(There, wanted to help out the Google spiders a bit)
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Old 09-18-2018, 03:23 PM   #6024
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None of these Pacific cards you keep posting are fake. This is just a non-serial numbered version, which he has correctly listed as a proof. Many exist. It's clear he's faking lots of stuff, but stop being the judge of what is and isn't fake if you can't tell the difference.
I'm not sure why you're defending him. There is already evidence of serial numbered cards sold and then relisted by him with entirely different patches. It's obvious what he's doing and it's almost always with the same patches. But sure, go ahead and buy this. I'm sure it's fine. He only lies and steals some of the time.
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None of these Pacific cards you keep posting are fake. This is just a non-serial numbered version, which he has correctly listed as a proof. Many exist. It's clear he's faking lots of stuff, but stop being the judge of what is and isn't fake if you can't tell the difference.
None of the cards I keep posting are fake? So your contention is that the Gridiron Cuts /400 with the flying elvis patch that he currently has listed is real? Are you his brother?
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