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Old 11-09-2020, 12:13 PM   #61226
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To be fair he didn't concede until December and the Supreme court case? Why should Trump not get the same leeway if indeed things go to the Supreme Court?
Because Gore wasn't crying fraud, rather, there were legitimate concerns as to what votes were being counted, and what votes were being thrown out.

Trump has no legitimate claims. He's just crying fraud and filing baseless lawsuits. An adult vs. a child.

Again, I want Trump supporters to apologize for calling non-supporters drama queens for merely suggesting that Trump wouldn't accept the results of the election. Cuz it's happening in real time.
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Old 11-09-2020, 12:13 PM   #61227
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I mean comon. Right wing conspiracy Twitter is all in right now; talking about how 130,000 votes in Fulton won't count because of address changes; people were getting bussed in from California to vote in NV; how dead people were voting en masse in Michigan ...

Sadly, there are many many people who believe these things are not just possible, but likely. It all sounds pretty funny to me; to think there's a mult-state operation going on where Democratic voters used different frauds in different places to get the job done but let's be honest; they're not that smart!

A way to ensure this doesn't happen next election of course is to offer more transparency into the vote counting process; allow states to offer more data into where the vote is coming from and what type of vote (mail, election day, provisional etc.) so that these little conspiracies cannot hatch. The only reason they're allowed to exist is because we do a sucky job of keeping the curtain open sometimes.

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Chaps coming in with a voice of reason. Thank you!


Seriously, does anyone one here even think for a second that the dems could pull off coordinated wide scale voter fraud? Truly, sit down for a minute and think about it.


People: They had a demented guy run for President, and now you think they pulled off widespread corruption. Man, those dems are so crafty.




To those that think this is true and want to donate to trump to investigate this I say have at it.



In the meantime, I'm going to look to 2024 and hope the pubs put in a half decent candidate with some guts to run this country the right way.
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Again, I want Trump supporters to apologize for calling non-supporters drama queens for merely suggesting that Trump wouldn't accept the results of the election. Cuz it's happening in real time.
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After the last 4 years of watching-listening to crying everyday
The Republicans have a lot of catching up to do to earn that title


getting there REAL fast.
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Old 11-09-2020, 12:17 PM   #61231
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Old 11-09-2020, 12:19 PM   #61232
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To be fair he didn't concede until December and the Supreme court case? Why should Trump not get the same leeway if indeed things go to the Supreme Court?
This election is so unlike 2000 that it's hardly worth mentioning.
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Lot's of hurt feelings in here today.



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Old 11-09-2020, 12:24 PM   #61234
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Because Gore wasn't crying fraud, rather, there were legitimate concerns as to what votes were being counted, and what votes were being thrown out.

Trump has no legitimate claims. He's just crying fraud and filing baseless lawsuits. An adult vs. a child.

Again, I want Trump supporters to apologize for calling non-supporters drama queens for merely suggesting that Trump wouldn't accept the results of the election. Cuz it's happening in real time.
They did make increasingly dumb arguments after the official recount though. Not as dumb as what Trump is doing.
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Because Gore wasn't crying fraud, rather, there were legitimate concerns as to what votes were being counted, and what votes were being thrown out.

Trump has no legitimate claims. He's just crying fraud and filing baseless lawsuits. An adult vs. a child.

Again, I want Trump supporters to apologize for calling non-supporters drama queens for merely suggesting that Trump wouldn't accept the results of the election. Cuz it's happening in real time.
We don't know if he has legitimate claims or not is all I'm saying. I'm not saying he does or doesn't. And I'm not apologizing for anything because I didn't call anyone names or whatever your accusing me of.
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They did make increasingly dumb arguments after the official recount though. Not as dumb as what Trump is doing.
Florida made wholesale changes to their voting processes because of 2000. Gore's claims most certainly had merit.
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i don't even see the point in arguing in here anymore, people are going to think what they intend to think. We will see the results, Trump likely has top notch lawyers working on this, if hes wrong hes wrong, if hes right, then hes right. i don't need to fight his cause for him, i'm one man with 0 legal expertise. I'm just going to sit back and see what happens, never say never.
With phrases like that.....camp is clear
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Florida made wholesale changes to their voting processes because of 2000. Gore's claims most certainly had merit.
And I think you will see changes from Trump's allegations also, at least more transparency in the counting of votes, etc.
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I would think most people have scruples, that guy, myself, and even though you and I dont agree here, im quite sure you've got scruples too. but we are law abiding citizens, most are, but even if the criminals are the 1%, 1% of over 70million+ is a large number. I dont want to give myself false hope, but im not saying this isnt possible either. like i said 0 legal expertise, just going to see what happens.
would that 1% also be split for both sides?
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Old 11-09-2020, 12:30 PM   #61242
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And I'm not apologizing for anything because I didn't call anyone names or whatever your accusing me of.
It's more of a blanket statement. Various Trump supporters have said that he would accept the results of the election and that to suggest otherwise is TDS, or overly dramatic, or whatever.

I'm just saying that it's not looking too overdramatic now, considering he's filed dozens of lawsuits, is raising money for his defense, and is planning on holding more superspreader rallies to challenge the results.
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And yet, I'm still here ...
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It's more of a blanket statement. Various Trump supporters have said that he would accept the results of the election and that to suggest otherwise is TDS, or overly dramatic, or whatever.

I'm just saying that it's not looking too overdramatic now, considering he's filed dozens of lawsuits, is raising money for his defense, and is planning on holding more superspreader rallies to challenge the results.
Oh the news will call them that as they look the other way at the victory celebrations.
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And yet, I'm still here ...
What are you bringing to the table besides "in your face" posts?
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Exactly my point. I'm not a liberal, I vote for all manner of folks depending upon the context, their platform, and the year.



All that was heard when Trump won, was shut up libtard snowflakes, move on. Now that the shoe is on the other foot, do you not see the irony?
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It's more of a blanket statement. Various Trump supporters have said that he would accept the results of the election and that to suggest otherwise is TDS, or overly dramatic, or whatever.

I'm just saying that it's not looking too overdramatic now, considering he's filed dozens of lawsuits, is raising money for his defense, and is planning on holding more superspreader rallies to challenge the results.
I think the Biden celebrations are just as much superspreaders, but those are ok. And the parades of protesters were ok too.
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I think the Biden celebrations are just as much superspreaders, but those are ok. And the parades of protesters were ok too.
They weren't okay. pretty sure a lot of folks have said as much.
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They weren't okay. pretty sure a lot of folks have said as much.
not the media, sorry they haven't and the experts have ignored them.
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Old 11-09-2020, 12:39 PM   #61250
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Chaps coming in with a voice of reason. Thank you!


Seriously, does anyone one here even think for a second that the dems could pull off coordinated wide scale voter fraud? Truly, sit down for a minute and think about it.


People: They had a demented guy run for President, and now you think they pulled off widespread corruption. Man, those dems are so crafty.




To those that think this is true and want to donate to trump to investigate this I say have at it.



In the meantime, I'm going to look to 2024 and hope the pubs put in a half decent candidate with some guts to run this country the right way.

Exactly. Let us analyze this rationally. There are two options:


Option A


Democrats have a multi-state voter fraud operation ongoing in order to change 10's of thousands of votes. They have managed to pull this off under the radar of the FBI and have had no leaks from within despite the number of people you would need to pull this off. They also decided to only target the president but left alone control of the Senate, including the ability to get rid of Mitch and Graham. Not only that but they attempted to pull this off under the term of a president who openly was alleging voter fraud for months before the election and who has control over the DOJ that he is weaponizing to use it against any potential political opponents.

or

Option B

Donny Dementia is crazy


Which do we think is more likely?
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