First Buzz: 2020 Topps Series 1 baseball cards

[yrocks2001]

Originally Posted by premium1981

The release week prices are not worth the price difference in most instances.

Use my 2019 Update for an example.

Guy #1 buys at the $1,200 presell price. Sell it all and gets back to his break even point.

Guy #2 buys at $750 and is patient, and returns $900.

Who wins? Yea, Guy #2 made $300 less in his sales, but he is the clear winner. I know these numbers are just hypothetical, and it is different for every release and every breaker. But I am a math guy and just follow the numbers. The numbers don't add up enough for me to jump on at those first prices. Additionally, by waiting, you also get in low enough to save some cases and see if they trend up, where Guy #1 has to dump as fast as possible and hope for the best with his results.

So check my hypothetical math...

Guy #1 buys at the $700 presell price. and returns a bajillion dollars

Guy #2 buys at $600 and is patient, and passes away never having sold a card and now his family is burdened with all of these tiny baseball pictures that they don't know what to do with so the throw them all away including a 1/1 platinum Yordan Alvarez rookie card that will now decompose in a garbage dump in southern Ohio under a pile of old spaghetti.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by premium1981

The release week prices are not worth the price difference in most instances.

Use my 2019 Update for an example.

Guy #1 buys at the $1,200 presell price. Sell it all and gets back to his break even point.

Guy #2 buys at $750 and is patient, and returns $900.

Who wins? Yea, Guy #2 made $300 less in his sales, but he is the clear winner. I know these numbers are just hypothetical, and it is different for every release and every breaker. But I am a math guy and just follow the numbers. The numbers don't add up enough for me to jump on at those first prices. Additionally, by waiting, you also get in low enough to save some cases and see if they trend up, where Guy #1 has to dump as fast as possible and hope for the best with his results.

You’re a “math guy”, yet using completely made up numbers to support your argument. And doing it with the most overpriced Flagship release of all time.

[coachnip13]

Originally Posted by premium1981

Almost everything drops at release. People still have to "lock in" though for some reason. Everyone said 2019 Update would never get down to good prices, but I bought a ton of it in the $700's after release. I was able to buy as much as I wanted. This release will be no different. Its Series 1. The most highly produced product of the year. And yet some people are snatching it up thinking it will be scarce.

I don't think it will be scarce, but I also don't think the market is there in June like it is in February.

[premium1981]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

You’re a “math guy”, yet using completely made up numbers to support your argument. And doing it with the most overpriced Flagship release of all time.

I can’t use actual math figures on a release that hasn’t released yet.

[premium1981]

Originally Posted by coachnip13

I don't think it will be scarce, but I also don't think the market is there in June like it is in February.

You don’t have to wait till June. You will be able to get regular price cases within a week of release, 2 weeks max.

[tier1dc]

Blasters and Hangers are up on Walmart.

[KhalDrogo]

Originally Posted by premium1981

I can’t use actual math figures on a release that hasn’t released yet.

So you’re saying you can’t predict the future?

Bottom line, nobody knows what case prices will be in 2 weeks or 2 months. What the big 3 want for 2019 Update tells me that these guys have zero interest in letting products go that have hot RCs. Prices stay high because they can keep them there and still move product. If Yordan, Bo, or Lux come out hot, God help us all.

[BBases31]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

So you’re saying you can’t predict the future?

Bottom line, nobody knows what case prices will be in 2 weeks or 2 months.

Why are you always grumpy?

[Portocuba]

Here is the TIN information from Walmart.


Each Tin contains seventy-five (75) 2020 Topps Series 1 cards. Including:

one (1) exclusive Chrome Decades’ Best insert card

One (1) 1985 Topps Baseball +

five (5) Turkey Red 2020 insert card +

one (1) Chrome Turkey Red 2020 insert card +

one (1) additional insert card.

20 TOPPS SERIES 1 BASEBALL WM TIN 20 TOPPS SERIES 1 BASEBALL WM TIN

[premium1981]

Originally Posted by KhalDrogo

Prices stay high because they can keep them there and still move product.

Agree 100%. People are spending stupid money on cases these days. It just blows my mind that it has hit the series 1 presell market. I shutter to think of some of the losses coming. People have complained in the past about not making money on flagship. Mainly because they don’t know how to sell it. Now, they are doubling down and paying more ahead of time too. It doesn’t effect me, as I am in at near cost. I just shake my head when I see posts from people buying now.

[80pc]

Originally Posted by ThoseBackPages

dude, if i cant buy a blaster of this at Target, imma SPIT!

I gotta say, they look enticing this year. I like that the MFT. Relic is of an actual previous RC image. Collector Tin looks interesting as well.

Blaster:
Each pack contains fourteen(14) 2020 Topps Baseball Series 1 Cards. One (1) Relic Card per box including one (1) Turkey Red 2020 insert card.Seven ( 7) packs per box plus one (1) Rookie Card Retrospective RC Logo Medallion Card. Box also includes one (1) Chrome Turkey Red 2020.

Edit: Someone posted the Tin above, here are the walmart hangers:

Each box contains sixty-seven (67) 2020Topps Baseball Series 1 Cards; including one (1) 1985 Topps Baseball Insert Card + one (1) Topps Insert Card + two (2) Rhys Hoskins Highlights Walmart Insert Cards + four (4) Turkey Red 2020 insert Cards.

[premium1981]

I’m thinking hangers may still be the go to retail format. They are hard to beat.

[banosd]

The tins on the Walmart have Trout, Pete and Vlad as the cover photo. Kind of like the Upper Deck Hockey tins

[coachnip13]

Originally Posted by premium1981

You don’t have to wait till June. You will be able to get regular price cases within a week of release, 2 weeks max.

I got regular priced cases months ago. I don't know what your point is. I locked my cases in when they first came out, and I among the first eBay listers for the crowd that likes to get their cards early. There's no down side to my way of approaching it.

[80pc]

Originally Posted by banosd

The tins on the Walmart have Trout, Pete and Vlad as the cover photo. Kind of like the Upper Deck Hockey tins

Judge, Bellinger, and Betts also.

[UGLI baby]

Originally Posted by banosd

The tins on the Walmart have Trout, Pete and Vlad as the cover photo. Kind of like the Upper Deck Hockey tins

Will all the hobby boxes have Pete, or could it be the 3 like on the tins?

[coachnip13]

Originally Posted by premium1981

It doesn’t effect (sic) me, as I am in at near cost.

Hold up........one page ago you were critical of people "locking in".

[premium1981]

Originally Posted by coachnip13

Hold up........one page ago you were critical of people "locking in".

Sigh. Locking in NOW at INFLATED prices.

[coachnip13]

Originally Posted by premium1981

Sigh. Locking in NOW at INFLATED prices.

My bad. I will make assumptions about your posts next time.

[UGLI baby]

When was the last time S1 had a rookie class this good?

[pewe]

Originally Posted by UGLI baby

When was the last time S1 had a rookie class this good?

Maybe ‘17?


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[LVDan]

Maybe 18


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[ThoseBackPages]

yea, probably 2018

[pewe]

You think at the time ‘18 was considered better? ‘17 had Judge, Moncada, Bregman, Benintendi, etc... all considered exciting day 1... and there were local optimism for Dansby Swanson (hit .302 in ‘16) etc.

I realize looking back ‘18 is good (and certainly ‘17 remains so, too)


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[ThoseBackPages]

Originally Posted by pewe

You think at the time ‘18 was considered better? ‘17 had Judge, Moncada, Bregman, Benintendi, etc... all considered exciting day 1... and there were local optimism for Dansby Swanson (hit .302 in ‘16) etc.

I realize looking back ‘18 is good (and certainly ‘17 remains so, too)


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in March 2017, it was unknown if Judge would make the team out of ST